Looking for a viable class combinding rogue n barbarian

[Leyoni]

Originally Posted by Talon Moonshadow

After lv 1, Brbs don't seem to get a lot until 11 and 14, w/crit rage.

A Brb14/Rog2 is a very good build that I am surprised I do not see more of running around.

Any other combo seems weak to me. Any number of Rog lvls is ok, but I don't see much gain between Brb1 and Brb11.

QFT

We derailed this for a long time (although the discussion was valuable IMO). And, the OP has probably gone on with a leveling scheme by now.

But, the original question has to do with a viable rogue/barbarian. Based on the discussions that is at least 14 levels of barbarian if you make that your primary class or 12 levels of rogue (remember the OP's initial desire to use acrobat enhancements).

So, I'm going to go with my earlier advice which started the derailment. If you are looking to be the aggro magnet go with the barbarian as your main class. If you are looking to avoid that and get most of your DPS from the backstab bonus go the rogue route.

A barbarian/rogue 14/2 split has a BAB of 15 (the progression is 15/15/20/25/25). A rogue/barbarian 12/4 split has a BAB of 13 (the progression is 13/13/18/23). As I noted, there isn't much you gain from a split like this -- a rogue 16 has a BAB of 12 (the progression is 12/12/17/22) and for that extra +1 on each swing you are giving up 2d6 of backstab damage.

Bottom line here is that the barbarian is going to do more damage (as we have discovered, because things between the two won't be equal) and so will draw more aggro from mobs. If that is what the OP is looking for then he should go the barbarian route. If not, he should probably just go pure rogue (or at most go for a 15/1 split for the minimal impact of L1 rages). Since people like to spam rage I'm not sure if there really is going to be much difference in damage output for the 15/1 split as opposed to the straight 16 rogue.

[centurian]

thank you guys for the debate,and help,after all of that talk about this subject ,i have deceided to go 14/2 barbarian/rogue.So far only 2/2 progression but hes alotta fun,a bit different then my dwarved barb for sure but the trap ability ,and the evasion im sure is to come in handy.

[iruka41]

Also, plan ahead up to level20.

Unless Barb Crit Rage III is coming on higher level, 14Barb/6Rogue seems like a nice deal.
(Crit Rage II + Rogue Specialty I)

That way you can assume you're gonna get more skill points when level cap goes up.

If Crit Rage III is implemented, it's a whole new story.
But you might not have enough distributable skill points to function as a viable trapmonkey at level 20 if you want to get Crit Rage III (if possible, of course)