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07-21-2008, 11:40 PM
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Monk\Ranger Tempest of Air Build (constructive comments welcome!)
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I want some constructive advice on this build i thought of. I started to build it on Sarlona with the name Yuritomo (a reference to Yoritomo from L5R, if your familar) and any advice on any aspect is welcome! This build is centered around atacking very fast and flavor. With the +15% (i think) attack speed that Ranger Tempest 1 gives and the +15 attack speed that Adept of Wind stance gives you, this is will mean pretty good DPS. It wields dual +5 greensteel kamas with Acid\Good\ Acid&Good for DPS and dual vorpal kamas for crowd control. Power Attack means more damage for somethings and Combat expertise for bigger things. Also with cleave, great cleave, and whirlwind attack, I have some mass damage things. Thanks! Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male (10 Monk / 6 Ranger) Hit Points: 211 (aprox) Spell Points: 125 (aprox) Total Bonus to hit(2 weapons): +27 BAB: 13 Fortitude: 20 Reflex: 28 Will: 23 AC: 49 = 10 + 11 + 9 + 5 + 7 + 2 + 1 + 4 Total = Base+DEX+WIS+Prot+ARMOR+Centered+Feat+Exceptional With self buffs Combat Exp +5, Shield +4, Barkskin +3 = 62 Feat/Enhancement Abilities Modified Stats With Items W\ items & Stance (32 Point) (Level 16) Strength 14 20 Dexterity 22 30 32 Constitution 12 18 16 Intelligence 13 Wisdom 22 28 Charisma 8 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 +1 Tome of Strength used at level 1 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 Feat/Enhancement/Items Modified Skills Skills (Level 16) Balance 32 Bluff -1 Concentration 41 Diplomacy -1 Disable Device n/a Haggle -1 Heal 9 Hide 26 Intimidate -1 Jump 20 Listen 9 Move Silently 26 Open Lock n/a Perform n/a Repair 1 Search 1 Spot 2 Swim 8 Tumble 29 Use Magic Device n/a Notable Equipment (not all but gives you an idea) Bracers of Armor +7 Boots of Dex +6 Amulet of Wisdom +6 Gloves of Ogre Power +6 CON +6 Belt Ring of Protection +5 Cloak or Resistance +5 Hat of Steady Spell Casting +13 Acid\Good\Acid & Good(+4 AC) Greensteel Kama Acid\Good\Acid & Good(+2 DEX exceptional) Greensteel Kama 3\rest Shield clickie Pots of Barkskin (+3) Item of Heavy Fort +1 vorpal kama +1 vorpal kama Feats Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Human Bonus) Weapon Finesse Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility Feat: (Automatic) Evasion Feat: (Automatic) Meditation Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind Feat: (Selected) Cleave Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body Feat: (Monk Bonus) Spring Attack Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack Feat: (Automatic) Diehard Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful Enhancements Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore I Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore II Enhancement: Ranger Tundra Lore I Enhancement: Ranger Tundra Lore II Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom II Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Fists of Light Enhancement: Adept of Wind Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I Enhancement: Monk Concentration I Enhancement: Monk Concentration II Enhancement: Monk Concentration III Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III |
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07-22-2008, 12:12 AM
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10 Base 11 DEX 09 WIS 05 Deflection (Prot +5) 07 Armored Bracers 02 Centered Bonus 04 Insight Bonus 01 Dodge Bonus (Feat) 03 Dodge Bonus (Chattering Ring - aspire  )04 Dodge Bonus (Icy Raiment - Farm )01 Dodge Bonus (Alchemical Bonus to Robe will be Dodge soon) 02 Tempest -- 59 Unbuffed 05 Combat Expertise 03 Barkskin 01 Haste Potion 04 Shield Clicky -- 72 Self-Buffed AC 02 Full Ranger Barkskin 05 Paladin Aura 04 Bard Song 02 Recitation 02 Favored Enemy -- 87 AC Potential A little more potential there than you seem to notice. 
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07-22-2008, 09:01 AM
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07-22-2008, 02:15 PM
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use shield clicky use CE 20s later CE is available again 40s after that shield runs out -repeat- 2 button presses of time that you're down 9 ac. Works on my toons. I did a similiar build but went 12 int with a tome to get CE. 14 starting con as well... though your initial build stats aren't completely clear... maybe that's reflecting wind stance. I also pushed the Diplo skill to help when you get a number of mobs around you. I also notice you don't have improved crit... I'll probably start with IC: slash for the kamas... and then once I get a mineral 2 kama... I'll probably go with IC: Ranged for manyshot situations...like the pit fiend.
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07-22-2008, 02:29 PM
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07-22-2008, 02:32 PM
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I like the build for the AC but where is the damage coming from? It doesnt even really matter that you dont have improved crit I guess because the crit mult and range of kamas is pretty weak anyway. Semi good dps vs your 2 favored enemies...
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07-22-2008, 02:34 PM
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hmm since when has vorpals been considered crowd control.... oh wait thats right only toons who can't deal enough dmg fast enough have to use them adn consider them good.... yah they ain't crowd control might wanna find a new thing to classify them as here is a hint "i can't do dmg"
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07-22-2008, 02:40 PM
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So to answer your question: "since the shroud".
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07-22-2008, 02:43 PM
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Wait.. Tempest doesnt work with unarmed, and if your TWF with rapiers or any real weapon you lose most of your monk benefits
so you plan on using 2 kamas? Sure your AC is nice, but your gunna hit like a wet piece of newspaper. You hit like a angry gnat, and you got zero intim so really, that AC isnt gunna be as effective and useful as you would want. And im sure someone is gunna make the "but he can use vorpals well" defence, which really quite pointless of an arguement, considering most things your gunna want a real tank for is immune to vorps
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07-22-2008, 02:49 PM
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07-22-2008, 03:02 PM
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I've got a finesse kama ranger/monk started with 8 str. If you consider that I get 11 attacks to the 2hander's 5, I am not that far behind them (especially with the +8 damage of a backstabbing goggle/weapon). Add favored enemy and I can grab aggro once in a while. Now consider the healing the 75AC character needs, vs the 6 AC barbarian Oh of course you dont want all your tanks to be on the low end of DPS, but this kind of character works quite well with a barbarian partner.
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07-22-2008, 05:04 PM
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No... I do well... except the stuipd Abbot asteroid puzzle. Thanks for your concern. Please make at least a barbo 14 before telling others that they are low damage.
As to his monk with a high AC... the cleave, gcleave and whirlwind will help establish a lot of initial aggro in groups of mobs while the rest of the party takes out their targets. He won't be able to grab aggro back from anyone, but to start off a group of mobs with a weakening/wounding/cursespewing of destruction kama hits applied to 5 or 6 enemies... will be nice. A weighted 5% hand wraps or qstaff might also be interesting with 3 mass arc attacks.
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07-22-2008, 06:10 PM
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To clarify....this plans to be a dual kama wielder..both of which are shroud crafting using Acid for the first tier, good for the second, and dual acid\good for the third.....here is the breakdown
per weapon hit without power attack 1d6+5(str)+5(weapon enh.)+1d6 (pure Good burst)+1d6(acid)= Avg. of 20.5 per atack On a crit, both the base damage and the good burst damage goes up a little..also the weapons have keen, transmuting, and slicing which can be nice. its not a lot of damage, but considering I will be hitting almost twice as fast as anyone else, i think it will be a good for getting initial aggfro and blocking baddies from the rest of the party.....plus it really has some fun favor....thanks for the great comments and plz keep anyomre comming |
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06-06-2010, 08:08 PM
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I found this topic while searching though old posts. This is for anyone who wants to build something similar and is doing searching in the forums for this: I built this on Sarlona (Character: Yuritomo) and he has stood the test of time and even with changes to how Tempest and Air stance work, is still one of the most effective builds out there, and I stumbled upon it before it became popular! This build is not the highest DPS out there, but is probably in the top 10, and its survivability is high. It is not uncommon to see this build or its counterpart (12 Tempest\6 Monk\3 whatever) in raids all of the time. Also it looks like Update 5 will make it even better by tempest and air stance working better together. |
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