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Old 12-08-2009, 01:42 AM   #1
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Patron Favor and Favor Rewards: What Does it Get You and Can You Get it From the DDO Store?

With the influx of new players, I've seen a lot of mis-information and vacuum of core knowledge of DDO for many basic things. In particular, favor ... how to get it, how to get more of it, what to do once you have it, where you go to spend it and how it relates to the DDO Store. This is a quick overview of Patron Favor.

A little background.... As you do each quest in the game, you are given favor by the Patron who issues you the quest. There are a few good sources of quest information I'd happily recommend to others; The Lost Quest Guide by Lost, the DDO Quest Log by Hafeal and lastly the Rowanheal's Comprehensive Quest List (an XLS file) by Rowanheal here on the forum for everyone to read over.

There are several Patrons and each of them have 'Favor Rewards' for you when you reach the 75 and 150 (tier1 and tier 2) favor points, and some have a tier 3 at 400 favor. At any point, you can see where you favor standings are on the Adventure Compendium (shortcut key = P) located on your top game tool bar. There you will see three (3) tabs: Adventures [this lists all quests in game and what the status of each is along with favor earned for the quest], Wilderness [this lists the various 'outdoor' areas DDO has for Slayer, Explorer and Rare Encounters], and lastly Patrons [this displays the progress bar for the favor earned per house as well as total earned favor on the character]. These rewards directly affect your life as a character in DDO as opposed to Collectible Items you get from Collectors from turning in various odds and ends. If you are interested in an in depth look into this topic, read up on the New & Improved Definitive Collectibles List by Steiner-Davion.

You should know that favor does not stack. So, if you do a quest on Solo for 2 favor, then do it on Normal for 4 favor, then Hard for 6 favor, and then complete it out on Elite for 9 favor...you will only get 9 favor points total. Elite is the cap for the possible favor (unless you are able to do Epic). It is pretty common to see people run 'Favor Quests' or 'Favor Runs' where high level characters will run quests on Elite to cap it or max the favor out for the quest and not really care (or get) XP from the quest. You also only get favor 1 time at the difficulty level, but can get XP and loot from the quest multiple times if you meet the level requirements until the quest is 'Ransacked'. Then you need to wait 7 days for the 'Quest Timer' to reset for the chests and XP. But, I digress here...

And now, lets go over Favor Rewards. But, before we do that, I need to point out a few things over at the DDO Store.

The DDO Store
Love it or hate it...the DDO Store here to stay. I don't want to get into the community politics on this subject or the topic of Veterans vrs F2P. This is not a thread for that. I'm also not going to list out every single item in the DDO Store. If you want to window shop, you can go directly to the DDO Store and look around or do the CTRL S in game.

With the introduction of the DDO Store, Turbine has provided a 'shortcut' to getting some of these favor rewards at the cost of Turbine Points. Everyone has an opinion on this subject and frankly, my opinion is that, "a player will do what makes sense for him/her, to enjoy the game the way he/she wants to play the game or has the time to invest into the game." I'm not advocating either side. To be fair and offer some insight to my perspective, I should mention that I currently have over 1,200 favor, but also purchased the 32pt Build and Favored Soul. So, I have a foot in each camp.

For the purpose of this post, these are the most popular items in the DDO Store and which can also be achieved thru Favor Rewards:
  • Drow (795 pts or 400 favor)
  • Veteran Status (1395 pts or 1,000 favor)
  • 32pt Build (1,495 pts or 1,750 favor)
  • Favored Soul (795 pts or 2,500 favor)
  • +2 Tomes (595 pts each or you get 1 when you hit 1,750 favor)
    * Note: All above prices subject to change with special % offers at the DDO Store.

Shared Bank Space:
  • The default 20 slots of Shared Bank space is not available as a favor unlock. It is free to VIPs all the time. Or costs 1,495 pts if you are a F2P'er.
  • +10 Shared Bank space is not available as a favor unlock.* (cost you 995 pts)**
    * Note: You can earn favor in House Kundarak for additional personal bank space, which is discussed below.
    ** Note: All above prices subject to change with special % offers at the DDO Store

Buy or Grind?
Each of these, when purchased, are available on all servers for whatever characters you make, delete or remake. This is a nice benefit as opposed to when you 'grind' favor on a specific server... when you unlock a tier of favor (say Drow) it will ONLY be available on that specific server. You would have to earn 400 favor on each server to unlock Drow on each server. This one key difference is the biggest benefit and hook that most people bite on.

The Patrons and Their Favor Rewards

The Church of the Silver Flame
In the Market Place, outside The Old Catacombs, you will find Astra Quinlin of the Church of the Silver Flame. You will get a nice perfumed scented letter from her when you reach 75, 150 and 400 favor.

The benefit at 75 favor is that you can gain access to cheaper spells from the Silver Flame Brothers and Sisters in the taverns when you need to be resurrected or healed, have a curse removed, disease removed (you should always have protection!), blindness cured, or in general need a restoration.

When you get 150 favor, you receive the Blessing of the Silver Flame, which helps you regenerate your hit points and spell points faster while in the city or in taverns. Their Holy services can be purchased at the following divine rates:
Tier 1 Buffs:
Heal - 500 gp
Remove Blindness - 200 gp
Remove Curse - 200 gp
Remove Disease - 200 gp
Restoration - 300 gp
At 400 favor, you gain access to the Silver Flame Armory:
  • Silver Flame Healing potions - Heals 250, with a 30 second side effect: -10 to all stats, -50% run speed
  • Lesser Silver Flame Healing potions - Heals 100, with a 30 second side effect: -10 to all stats
  • +3 Ghost Touched Silver arrows
  • +3 Silver Arrows of Lesser Undead Bane

The Coin Lords
Just outside the Lordsmarch Palace Bank in Marketplace, you will see a cheerful guy who goes by the name of Montague Goudreau. He is the one usually opening the door for you when you enter the bank.

When you get acheive 75 favor, the Coin Lords give you a fourth inventory tab. MORE PACK SPACE! By this point, it will be a relief to get a bit of extra room.

Later, when you reach 150 favor points, you are given the opportunity to get the 5th inventory tab (for a total of 100 boxes of individual character space). There are a couple issues that would prevent such a wonderous thing to occur;
  1. The requirement of 100,000 gp (10,000 pp)
  2. A Collapsible Portable Hole

The gold, you have to earn like you do any day in Stormreach. The portable hole...well, either you are lucky and find one as loot or get one from a friend. Worst case, you go shopping on the Auction House for it. Once you have both items, speak to Ryo Silverbow just outside the Harbormaster's house.

The Free Agents
Capshaw the Crier, the loud obnoxious guy near the Leaky Dinghy tavern, is the representative of the Free Agents. He is the type of guy anyone would want in their group as he always seems to know how to get his hands on various kits and tools.

When you get 75 favor, he will happily sell you +1 and +2 Healer's kits, Repair Kits, and Thieves' Tools. "Whatever floats your boat." (as he says).

When you reach 150 favor points, Capshaw then pulls out the good stuff for you...all +4 versions of those same kits and tools. Capshaw knows most Rogues by first name...much to their chagrin, as well as others who pick up the Healing kits to keep their incapacitated party members alive in times of need.

After 400 favor with the Free Agents, you gain access to Jaidene Forgemaiden, the Expert Equipment repair vendor in Zawabi's Refuge. She can repair your weapons and armour with a lower chance of permanent damage.

House Deneith
Oleg d'Deneith, the House Deneith representative, can be found at that big mountain in House Denieth. The one with the Mailbox. He likes to trade war stories with the Rangers, which is maybe why I see so many around him showing off their battle scars. It will be pretty easy to get the first 75 favor points. The remaining 75 will be a little more challenging...but should not be too much of a problem.

When you reach 75 favor, Oleg will be happy to sell you some of his stash of +3 arrows, bolts, darts, shurikens, and throwing hammers and axes.

At 150 favor, you get the chance to purchase returning arrows, bolts, darts, shurikens, and throwing hammers and axes. He as these in Adamantine, Byeshk, Cold Iron, and Silver varieties too. Oh, he also has Quivers, both thin and wide.

House Jorasco
The cutie up by the Open Palm Inn, Rhialle "Blossom" D'Jorasco, is who you will want to talk to once you reach 75 and 150 favor points for House Jorasco. She is the attractive lady standing next to Annabelle d'Jorasco...who in all rights of her own, is another hottie. When she informs you that you have achieved their favor, she will sell you 30-minute buffs. This favor is pretty quick to get and these buffs are very useful. I'd suggest running Delera's then go with Redwillow or Tempest Spine.

When you earn 75 favor, she offers these spells to you.
Tier 1 Buffs:
Bless - 100 gp
Shield of Faith - 100 gp
Remove Fear - 100 gp
When you earn 150 favor, she expands the menu for your selection.
Tier 2 Buffs:
Aid - 300 gp
Bear's Endurance - 300 gp
Bull's Strength - 300 gp
Eagle's Splendor - 300 gp
Owl's Slendor - 300 gp
Resist Fire - 300 gp
Resist Acid - 300 gp
Resist Cold - 300 gp
Resist Electricity - 300 gp
Resist Sonic - 300 gp
Water Breathing - 500 gp
House Kundarak
At the top of the stairs, standing outside the Kundarak Bank is Karya d'Kundara. She will greet you as you stagger up the last stretch of stairs to get into the bank with a warm smile. In my opinion, this set of favor rewards is worth its weight in platinum. This is why...

When you reach 75 favor, Karya can get another bank tab for only 20,000 gp (2,000 pp) for a 2nd tab (20 spaces). Need more space you say?!

Well, when you reach 150 favor, you can give her another 80,000 gp (8,000 pp) for another bank tab (20 more spaces).

So... recap the whole 'space' subject. From House Kundarak favor, you can get 2 additional tabs (+40 slots), the Shared Bank space (+20 free to VIP or F2P have to buy it), and finally...the just released +10 to your Shared Bank space (+10 both VIP and F2P have to buy it)....all of this on top of what the Coin Lords will give you as their rewards of 2 more back pack tabs (+40) for a whopping total of and including your 3 original back pack tabs (+60).... of 170 spots to store your 'stuff'.

House Phiarlan
Maris d'Phiarlan is in front of House Phiarlan near the mailbox. House Phiarlan is my favorite place to go and work for when it comes to favor.

At 75 favor, you she will allow you to purchase buffs that last for 30 minutes and they won't disappear when you enter the dungeons. Prices are cheap and a great addition to your survival for the short to medium quests in the area.

When you achieve 150 favor points, you get a Phiarlan Pendant of Time. It's a necklace that allows you run super fast in the city or any of the houses...but not in the wild or in dungeons. You activate it once...and its on till you enter a non-neutral area (dungeon or wilderness). Fingalar d'Phiarlan will be the one administering the buffs, so be nice to him too.
Tier 1 Buffs:
Jump - 100 gp
Mage Armor - 100 gp
Tumble - 100 gp
False Life - 300 gp
Resist Fire - 300 gp
Resist Acid - 300 gp
Resist Cold - 300 gp
Resist Electricity - 300 gp
Resist Sonic - 300 gp

More Spells:
Bear's Endurance - 300 gp
Bull's Strength - 300 gp
Cat's Grace - 300 gp
Eagle's Splendor - 300 gp
Fox's Cunning - 300 gp
Owl's Wisdom - 300 gp
Water Breathing - 500 gp
The Other Patrons and Favor Rewards They Provide
I don't have personal experience with the following, so I can't do any fancy write-ups on them yet. I'm going by what the community is replying to here.

Agent of Agronesson
75 Favor - Choice of full Syberis Dragon Shard or Portable Hole
150 Favor - 10 Hp's listed as Draconic Vitality

The Twelve
40 Favor - Access to the crafting alter and shard vendor in Meridia
100 Favor? - Large Ingredients bag

Yugoloth
Yugoloth Favor (not sure how much you need for tier 1) gives access to a vendor that sells various +2 stat buff potions. They last 15minuits and presist thru instances like house P buffs. But not thru death like store pots. They cost roughly 1,100 plat each with 0 haggle.

Junts put up a bunch of screenshots of them and their effect here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=198744


How Earned Favor Affects NPC Brokers in Shops
In some areas (like the Marketplace) there is a quest you can do (in the case of the marketplace it's the STK chain). After you complete it, many vendors will talk to you slightly differently.

Generally these are original release multi-part quests.
  • Harbour: The Lost Seekers (aka Waterworks)
  • Market: Shan-to-kor (aka STK)
  • House P: Some are Tangleroot, some are Threnal Ruins
  • House J: Deleras Tomb
  • House D: Sorrowdusk - Greymoon/Cult of the Six
  • House K: Sorrowdusk - Greymoon/Cult of the Six

You get back 10% of the base price at normal vendors and 15% at friendly vendors. (and 20%ish at pawn brokers). Some vendors are always friendly tho and always give the 15%, an example is the portable hole general shop.

I don't have a lot of information on this, and to be honest, I never really noticed a price change. But, this is the info which was was shared regarding the topic. I'd like more input on this topic if somebody can shed more light on it. Thanks to the folks in this thread for even bringing it up in the first place!

Wrap Up
If somebody has new information regarding this subject, I'll happily update this page. The same applies if I made an incorrect statement here about something here too.

I hope you newer folks found this useful as a reference and maybe learned something. In addition to my learned experiences here to put this together for you, I'd also like to thank the old timers out there, for all the input to me or indirectly to others which I have read or been directed to over the years. Lastly, thanks to the Devs for adding all sorts of elements to DDO which continue to make it an exciting game.

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After 400 favor with the Free Agents, you gain access to Jaidene Forgemaiden, the Expert Equipment repair vendor in Zawabi's Refuge. She can repair your weapons and armour with a lower chance of permanent damage.

I have not seen any reports of what is given form 400 favor with the Coin Lords, and I have not reached 400 favor with the Silver Flame yet.

Other than those 3, I dont think any other patrons have 400 favor attainable.
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So... recap the whole 'space' subject. From House Kundarak favor, you can get 2 additional tabs (+40 slots), the Shared Bank space (+20).
The shared bank tab is not available as a favor unlock. It is free to VIPs all the time. Or costs 1495 points otherwise.

400 Point favor rewards:
Free Agents: Can use the expert repair option of Jaidene Forgemaiden, the repair vendor in Zawabi's Refuge. She can repair your weapons and armour with a lower chance of permanent damage - however this has a much higher cost then a normal repair vendor.

Silver Flame:
Gain access to the silver flame armory:
Sells Silver Flame Healing potions - heals 250, with a 30 second side effect: -10 to all stats, -50% run speed
Lesser silver flame healing potions - heals 100, with a 30 second side effect: -10 to all stats
Silver arrows - +3 of lesser undead bane iirc?

Coin Agents:
The devs forgot to put one in.. Noobs.
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Thanks Shade and Atkbeast... updated post.
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Agent of Agronesson
75 - Choice of full Syberis Dragon Shard or Portable Hole
150 - 10 Hp's listed as draconic Vitality

Twelve
40 - Access to the crafting alter and shard vendor in meridia
100? - Large Ingredients bag

Sorry at work can't verify spelling.
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what about amrath?
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Silver flame gives access to two types of silver arrows.

Ghost touched silver arrows and silver arrows of lesser undead bane, I think.
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what about amrath?
Yugoloth Favor gives access to a vendor that sells various +2 stat buff potions. They last 15minuits and presist thru instances like house P buffs. But not thru death like store pots. They cost roughly 1,100 plat each with 0 haggle.

Most of them have side effects tho, some good some bad.
Junts has a full guide with screenshots here:
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Another fun one that relates to your post is that if you get Agent favour (gianthold quests and Reavers Refuge) you will get a choice between a portable hole or siberys dragonshard at 75 favour. Obviously though that means you would have to unlock Gianthold if FtP but honestly I think Gianthold & Vale of Twilight are two must have adventure packs.

Other than that a very useful post for new players.
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Will favor with the Houses have influence on the vendor prices?
I have heard both yes and no, so I was hoping someone here knew

I know there is a reputation quest for each house and that will influence vendor prices, but I don't know if favor will help.
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It depends on what vendor. House D allows you to buy better arrows and quiver but not cheaper. Free Agents allows cheaper purchase of basic masterwork items and House P and House J give you spells for cheaper (as in spells cast on you, not scrolls and such bought from them).

Other vendors are player sold stuff so there is no cheaper price. The best way to make things cheaper for yourself is to make a cha based character with a high haggle. A bard is an awesome one.
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It depends on what vendor. House D allows you to buy better arrows and quiver but not cheaper. Free Agents allows cheaper purchase of basic masterwork items and House P and House J give you spells for cheaper (as in spells cast on you, not scrolls and such bought from them).

Other vendors are player sold stuff so there is no cheaper price. The best way to make things cheaper for yourself is to make a cha based character with a high haggle. A bard is an awesome one.
I was thinking of the vendors with things like medium bags, spell ingredients, potions, +1 weapons and that sort of things. Ordinary vendors, not brokers.

Kralgnax was making a guide about how to earn cash and said "Once you’re over 75 favor with noble houses, their vendors will give you slightly (2%) better prices." (link: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=216954)

I was unsure about this, because I thought those 2% were gained by doing the reputation quest for the house. I should have asked in that thread, but to be honest I was afraid of making an idiot of myself (everybody was praising the guide, so I figured I was wrong).
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Reputation and favour are the same thing.

It's called favour in game but can be referred to as reputation by the community.

Patron Points = Favour = Reputation
All the same thing
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Reputation and favour are the same thing.

It's called favour in game but can be referred to as reputation by the community.

Patron Points = Favour = Reputation
All the same thing
And Favour = Favor Rasczak just knows how to spell it properly (the British way )
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lol ty Nouda...still getting used to color vs colour
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Reputation and favour are the same thing.

It's called favour in game but can be referred to as reputation by the community.

Patron Points = Favour = Reputation
All the same thing
So you agree with Kralgnax in the link I gave?

If you pass 75 favor, you will get 2% discount at the vendors?

And if this is true, I think it could be handy to put in the OP's guide

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I used both favor and reputation because I wanted to separate them as two different things. I used them as such, because this is how the DDOWIKI uses them. But it seems I should have done it differently. I wish I could link to the Wiki, but it is still down
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Tbh I can't confirm it. I know Silver Flame gives discount on spells cast by other Silver Flame agents, but the other patrons as far as I know don't give them. They only unlock more features.

I would suggest looking at this link which lists the favour rewards. There is nothing about discounts at vendors.

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Favor
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Will favor with the Houses have influence on the vendor prices?
I have heard both yes and no, so I was hoping someone here knew

I know there is a reputation quest for each house and that will influence vendor prices, but I don't know if favor will help.
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Reputation and favour are the same thing.

It's called favour in game but can be referred to as reputation by the community.

Patron Points = Favour = Reputation
All the same thing
That's incorrect Rasczak, at least for the purpose of Lilliana's question. She is correct that there is a reputation quest in each house that will give you better prices at the vendor for that house and it is totally seperate from favor.
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That's incorrect Rasczak, at least for the purpose of Lilliana's question. She is correct that there is a reputation quest in each house that will give you better prices at the vendor for that house and it is totally seperate from favor.
You'll have to give me the details then because I've missed that in 3 years of playing.....honestly with no sarcasm
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