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    Default The Definitive UMD Bonus Thread

    Originally posted in January 2007 on European Codemasters boards.


    Because there are still some questions about how to enhance UMD, I decided to try to make a comprehensive thread out of my proper experience and all the data gathered about it. Feel free to post some adds/corrections. If it's of any interrest, I will keep this thread updated.

    Everyone starts with his base score rank to UMD and adds the highest bonus from each categories listed below (except Circumstance and Misc which stack with any bonus).


    Pay attention that there is a difference between the PnP Enhancement Bonus category and the bonus obtained with DDO Action Points Enhancements. In order to distinguish them we will call the first one "Enhancement Bonus" and the last one "AP Enh"


    Base score rank

    - If UMD is class skill (Bard/Rogue): from 0 to (character level + 3)

    - If UMD is cross-class skill: from 0 to (character level + 3)/2


    Sources of Ability Bonus

    - Charisma Score: 12/14/16/.../54 (+1/+2/+3/.../+22)

    The above Charisma Score includes:
    - Base: Base score at creation up to 18 cha
    - Race: Drow (+2 cha)
    - Level: Ability increase at level 4/8/12/16/20 (+1/+2/+3/+4/+5 cha)
    - AP Enh: Human Adaptability Charisma I (+1 cha)
    - AP Enh: Cleric/Bard/Paladin/Sorcerer Charisma I/II/III (+1/+2/+3 cha)
    - Item: Tome of Leadership and Influence (inherent bonus) (+1/+2/+3/+4 cha)
    - Item: various item (enhancement bonus) (+1/+2/+3/+4/+5/+6/+7 cha)
    - Spell: Eagle's Splendor (enhancement bonus) (+4 cha)
    - Item: Potion of Influence +1/+2/+3 from House D collectors (alchemical bonus) (+1/+2/+3 cha)
    - Item: Essence of Seduction from Yugoloth Favor Reward (+2 cha)
    - Item: Litany of the Dead trinket from Black Abbot RAID (profane bonus) (+1 cha)
    - Item: Green Steel Item with Exceptional Charisma +1 (exceptional bonus +1) (+1 cha)
    - Item: Green Steel Item with Exceptional Charisma +2 (exceptional bonus +2) (+2 cha)
    - Item: Dragontouched Armor with Exceptional Charisma +1 (exceptional bonus +1) (+1 cha)
    - Item: Tower of Despair Ring with Exceptional Charisma +1 (exceptional bonus +1) (+1 cha)
    - Item: Tower of Despair Ring with Exceptional Charisma +2 (exceptional bonus +2) (+2 cha)
    - Item: Epic item (any slot) with Exceptional Charisma +1 (exceptional bonus +1) (+1 cha)
    - AP Enh: Bard/Favored Soul Capstone (+2 cha)
    - Guild buff: Minor/Lesser Charisma Shrine Rental Contract 1h duration (guild/artifact bonus) (+1/+2 cha)
    - Item: Lasting Elixir of Eagle's Majesty/Supreme Ability from the Store, 10 min duration (+2 cha)
    - AP Enh: Half-Elf Bard/Favored Soul/Paladin/Sorcerer Charisma I (+1 cha)


    Sources of Competence Bonus

    - Item: Runic Gloves from Necromancer's Doom (+1)
    - Item: Treasure Hunter Spyglass (lvl 8 & 12) (+1)
    - Item: random item 'of Command' (+2)
    - Item: Circlet of Persuasion (+3)
    - Item: Coronation from Tome of Untold Legends (+3)
    - Item: Cloak of the Silver Concord from Dragon RAID (+3)
    - Item: Golden Cartouche necklace from Delera's Tomb + Necromancer's Lair Rewards (+3)
    - Item: Vile Blasphemy gloves from Black Abbot RAID (+3)
    - Item: Treasure Hunter Spyglass (lvl 16) (+3)
    - Item: Epic Treasure Hunter Spyglass (tier 1 & 2) (+3)
    - Item: Bunny Hat from Store (+3) when wand/scroll worn
    - Item: Seven Fingered Gloves from Titan RAID (+5)
    - Item: Stave of the Seer from Ghola Fan (+5)


    Sources of Enhancement Bonus

    - Item: The Big Top from House P Under The Big Top end chest (+1)
    - Item: Epic Big Top (+3)
    - Item: Epic Treasure Hunter Spyglass (tier 3) (+3)


    Sources of Morale Bonus

    - Spell: Heroism (+2)
    - Spell: Good Hope (+2)
    - Spell: Greater Heroism (+4)


    Sources of Luck Bonus

    - Spell: Prayer (+1)
    - Item: Rabbit Gloves from South Threnal Rewards (+1)
    - Item: Stone of Good Luck trinket (+1)
    - Item: Voice of the Master trinket from Return to Delera's Tomb Rewards (+1)
    - Item: Ring of the Buccaneer (lvl 12 & 16) (+1)
    - Item: Epic Ring of the Buccaneer (tier 1 & 2) (+1)
    - Item: Staff of Arcane Power from Marilith RAID (+2)
    - Item: Head of Good Fortune trinket from Stormreaver RAID (+2)
    - Item: Epic item (blue, green or violet slot) with +2 Good Luck (+2)
    - Item: Epic Ring of the Buccaneer (tier 3) (+2)


    Sources of Alchemical Bonus

    - Item: Potion of Eagle's Skill +1/+2/+3 from House D collectors, 3 min duration (+1/+2/+3)


    Sources of Action Boost Bonus

    - AP Enh: Human Versatility I/II/III/IV 20 sec duration (+2/+3/+4/+5)
    - AP Enh: Rogue/Ranger Skill Boost I/II/III/IV 20 sec duration (+2/+3/+4/+5)


    Sources of Circumstance Bonus (Circumstance Bonus stack)

    - Spell: Focusing Chant (+1)


    Sources of Feat Bonus (Feat Bonus stack)

    - Feat: Bard's Inspire Competence (+2) *
    - Feat: UMD Skill Focus (+3)
    - Feat: Walk of the Sun from Monk Finishing Moves, 60 sec duration (+2)
    - Past Life Feat: Bardic Dilettante (+1)
    - Past Life Feat: Rogue Sneak of Shadow (+1)
    - Feat: Rogue Skill Mastery, can be taken several times (+1)
    - Feat: Moment of Clarity from Monk Finishing Moves, (+5) for a very short period of time.


    Sources of Misc Bonus (Misc Bonus stack)

    - AP Enh: Bard Spellsinger I/II (+2/+4)
    - Item: Green Steel Item with Charisma Skills Exceptional Bonus +1 (+1) **
    - Item: Green Steel Item with Charisma Skills Exceptional Bonus +2 (+2) **
    - Item: Green Steel Item with Charisma Skills Exceptional Bonus +3 (+3) **
    - Item: Dragontouched Armor with Charisma Skills Exceptional Bonus +3 (+3) **


    * Before Module 3 Bard's Inspire Competence was wrongly flagged as a 'morale' bonus and hence didn't stack with other 'morale' bonus. Now it is supposed to be flagged as a 'competence' bonus as it should be but it stacks with other 'competence' bonus like Persuasion (probably because it's treated as a Feat). Therefore I've put it in the 'Feat' bonuses.

    ** Exceptional Bonus +x stacks with any bonus except itself. Therefore the max with Green Steel items is +6.


    How To use UMD

    I could write something here but since there is now a good article about it on DDOWiki, allow me to reference it:
    How To use UMD


    Acknowledgments

    The links to the pictures of items are taken from The Cataclysm's awesome thread: *new* Definitive Static Rewards and Unique Chest Loot

    Thx to ElectroShock and Skitsoism for fruitful discussion and to Filthy and Aelost for nice testing sessions
    Thx to Karlak for the input about the Seven Fingered Gloves
    Last edited by mel; 03-01-2011 at 11:08 AM.
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    only one small add
    Monk finisher buff Walk of the Sun
    Its a +2 untyped bonus to hit, saves and all skills.
    Move along , Nothing to see here

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    Some new bits.

    Epic Big Top grants +3 Enhancement
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Big_Top

    Boosts are now typed as "Action Boost" bonuses.
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    Also a possibility of a +2 CHA from "Guild Bonus" ship buffs.
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    I didn't see CHA Yugo pots and store pots, but I am old and have poor vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    Sources of Feat Bonus (Feat Bonus stack)

    - Feat: Bard's Inspire Competence (+2) *
    - Feat: UMD Skill Focus (+3)
    I'm assuming all the following kinda stack, but I haven't tried:

    - Past Life: Bardic Dilettante: +1 to all CHA skills;
    - Past Life: Sneak of Shadow: +1 to all skills;
    - Skill Mastery: rogue class feat; +1 to all skills; it can be taken several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty_Can View Post
    I'm assuming all the following kinda stack, but I haven't tried:

    - Past Life: Bardic Dilettante: +1 to all CHA skills;
    - Past Life: Sneak of Shadow: +1 to all skills;
    - Skill Mastery: rogue class feat; +1 to all skills; it can be taken several times.
    they should, I think the max I can come up with for max UMD is 87... idk what skill mastery does(as far as feats go, it could be a yellow feat)

    P.S. I think you forgot skill focus(+3), addressing to the OP
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    There is also the Bunny Hat in the store, which has a "hidden" bonus...(Nothing up my sleeve), that gives you a +3 UMD bonus for Wands (and perhaps still scrolls) while worn. It is the same competence bonus a cartouche would give, but does not take a slot.
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    Doesn't the Bard Capstone add to CHA and CHA based skills?

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    Thanks a lot guys for your comments, very much appreciated. I shall update the thread soon as soon as I have taken all your remarks into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenako View Post
    There is also the Bunny Hat in the store, which has a "hidden" bonus...(Nothing up my sleeve), that gives you a +3 UMD bonus for Wands (and perhaps still scrolls) while worn. It is the same competence bonus a cartouche would give, but does not take a slot.
    Confirmed that it does still affect scrolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t0r012 View Post
    Monk finisher buff Walk of the Sun
    Its a +2 untyped bonus to hit, saves and all skills.
    Actually there are two monk finishers for +skills:
    Fire Light Fire and Void Light Void, and you can stack them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    Thanks a lot guys for your comments, very much appreciated. I shall update the thread soon as soon as I have taken all your remarks into account.
    Nicely done, I even learned something I should have known!

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    The Phiarlan Entertainer's buff (guild ship crew) gives +1 to all skills. It's listed as untyped, but it seems to be a luck bonus. I know it didn't stack with my HoGF.

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    The bunny hat + scroll/wand in mainhand will give +3 bonus that stacks with seven fingered glove, dont know the exact name of the bonus type

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    Good stuff!

    One minor addition is that the Runic Gloves are also available when you complete the gear-up quest after starting a new bard at level 4.

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    Here are the compilation I've done so far that are missing in the OP:

    Sources of Feat Bonus (Feat Bonus stack)

    - Feat: Walk of the Sun from Monk Finishing Moves, 60 sec duration (+2)
    - Past Life Feat: Bardic Dilettante (+1)
    - Past Life Feat: Rogue Sneak of Shadow (+1)
    - Feat: Rogue Skill Mastery, can be taken several times (+1)
    - Feat: Moment of Clarity from Monk Finishing Moves, (+5) for a very short period of time.


    Sources of Enhancement Bonus

    - Item: Epic Big Top (+3)


    Sources of Ability Bonus

    - Buff: Minor/Lesser Charisma Shrine Rental Contract 1h duration (guild bonus) (+1/+2 cha)
    - Item: Lasting Eagle's Majesty/Supreme Ability Potion from Store, 10 min duration (+2 cha)


    Sources of Competence Bonus

    - Item: Bunny Hat from Store (+3) to wands and scrolls




    I still have a few questions:

    Quote Originally Posted by stainer View Post
    I didn't see CHA Yugo pots and store pots, but I am old and have poor vision.
    Yugo are listed but not the Store ones. Do you know if Lasting Eagle's Majesty Potion and Lasting Supreme Ability Potion stack? Is there any other store potion than those two for cha buff?



    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    Actually there are two monk finishers for +skills:
    Fire Light Fire and Void Light Void, and you can stack them.
    For Moment of Clarity, shall I assume that this insight bonus is actually untyped? Also do you know the duration?



    Quote Originally Posted by dkyle View Post
    The Phiarlan Entertainer's buff (guild ship crew) gives +1 to all skills. It's listed as untyped, but it seems to be a luck bonus. I know it didn't stack with my HoGF.
    I still have to find the definite type of it. Do you know the exact duration?

    Thx guys
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    Sources of Competence Bonus

    - Item: Bunny Hat from Store (+3) to wands and scrolls

    Its not just to wands and scroll its when you equip a ward or scroll, you get +3UMD, so you can use wand, equip something you need +3 for and then unequip wand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhandol View Post
    Its not just to wands and scroll its when you equip a ward or scroll, you get +3UMD, so you can use wand, equip something you need +3 for and then unequip wand
    Weird... is it something intended or is it a bug?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mel View Post
    Weird... is it something intended or is it a bug?
    I daresay it's not working as intended, especially considering the bunny hat was meant to work only with wands .....
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