Help me craft an Iconic Challenge Farmer

[Caprice]

For the cove actually I have a 7th level first savant. Those low level coves things die super super easy. And you get just one or two levels on it and you can fit in fire wall and/or DD.

I can see that being quite useful for dragonshard farming since shards are the real bottleneck in the long term. However I still usually want to pick up at least some emeralds and diamonds to make level 20 gear, and while it is a bother to convert gems down to lower level gems it is at least an option. The starter epic pieces are less important now that challenge and commendation gear are available, but there are still some quite nice pieces in there and being able to roll a quick Iconic to farm those is a big plus for me. I could definitely see farming just enough of the higher level gems for my shopping list - for which I feel a BF Fire Savant should be quite effective - and then switching to a level 7 to farm shards.

While it is a bit off topic... as a Sorceror 7 you do not have DDoor (or Wall of Fire). Are you relying on Pirate Port drops to get you back to the center or are you always running in groups so there's someone else guarding the base? I was thinking possibly about a WF pure Wiz for Wall of Fire and DDoor, and possibly to have a skelly pet guard the center while soloing, but SP is a concern. These days I'd also seriously consider a Human pure Cleric with the DM of Passage. I am not sure if the APs work out but the Light DiDi SLAs are strong on undead, you have plenty of self-healing, and Passage gives 25% runspeed and DDoor.

[unbongwah]

My latest concept for a BF Challenge farmer is Fire Savant (Force secondary) w/FvS splash for AoV bonuses, similar to builds like the Scorcher. The key difference is I also invest a bit into melee DPS, largely to give myself something to do while kiting thru Firewalls:

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Level 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(2 Paladin \ 16 Sorcerer \ 2 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 220
Spell Points: 1626 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 14
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    13
Dexterity             6                     6
Constitution         18                    18
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom                6                     6
Charisma             17                    24

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Sorcerer)
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Magic Missile


Level 3 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 4 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 5 (Sorcerer)
Spell (2): Scorching Ray


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (2): Resist Energy


Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Spell (3): Chain Missiles


Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (3): Displacement
Spell (2): Web


Level 9 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Spell (4): Wall of Fire


Level 10 (Sorcerer)
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 11 (Sorcerer)
Spell (5): Eladar's Electric Surge


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Sorcerer)
Spell (4): Force Missiles
Spell (3): Repair Serious Damage
Spell (5): Protection from Elements


Level 14 (Sorcerer)
Spell (6): Chain Lightning


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (1): Divine Favor


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Inscribed Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fire Savant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fire Affinity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Greater Fire Affinity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Immolation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Burning Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Burning Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Burning Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Spell Critical: Fire I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Conflagration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Conflagration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Conflagration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Spell Critical: Fire II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fanning the Flames (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fanning the Flames (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fanning the Flames (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Spell Critical: Fire III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Scorch (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Scorch (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Scorch (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fire Guard (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Spell Critical: Fire IV (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fireball (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fireball (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Fireball (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Awaken Elemental Weakness: Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Heat Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Font of Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Scourge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Scourge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Scourge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Just Reward (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Just Reward (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Just Reward (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Sor) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Sorcerer)
Spell (4): Acid Rain
Spell (5): Ball Lightning
Spell (6): Tenser's Transformation


Level 18 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation
Spell (7): Delayed Blast Fireball


Level 19 (Sorcerer)
Spell (7): Prismatic Spray
Spell (6): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Teleport


Level 20 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (8): Black Dragon Bolt
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Evocation Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Fire Savant (Sor) - Power of Force (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Articles of Faith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Spell Power Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Spell Power Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)

Haven't picked all my spells and I'm a little on the fence about some feats, but the gist is:

• 10 APs in BF tree for repair amp & Reconstruct SLA
• 41 APs into Fire Savant for SLAs, crit chance, DCs, etc.
• 16 APs into AoV for Scourge, Just Reward, Spellpower boost, Articles of Faith, etc.
• 10 APs into WP for Div Might, Smite Weakness, and Righteous Weapons (which should boost AoF's Implement bonus as well as DPS)
• 1 AP into EK for +1% doublestrike & Eldritch Strike; would've like to pick up at least one Spellsword enh, but T1 EK is pretty blah for this build and APs are already tight

Essentially the idea is to "charge up" Scourge with your low-SP fire/force spells, then letting rip with a good firewall or DBF; melee to finish off weakened foes or while spells are on CD. I picked up a few acid & lightning spells to help out against fire-immune mobs; plus by not investing in Earth or Air Savant, I don't take any CL penalties to their spells. BDS & EES should help out with bosses.

Gear-wise this is intended to hit the ground running, taking advantage of everything a new BF starts with to help gear up. [In fact, until you have some caster gear, you may just want to play this as a melee toon, with spells reserved for buffs & repairs.] First priority is a Fire cloak, followed by a Artifice Ring; then probably Wind bracers & Rock boots. For weapons you can stick with the starter sword or swap to Insanity or Whirlwind, maybe a ML:16 Eveningstar challenge g.sword. There's some decent ML:18 gear from IQ: namely Terror, Docent of Battle, and Titan's Grip.

EDIT: I'd like to have discoballs, but a little worried my DCs & Spell Pen will be too low on 16/2/2 split - any thoughts?

[EllisDee37]

20 levels is a bit much for an iconic challenge farmer, no? Isn't the idea to just roll it up, farm your mats and delete it?

How effective is a fire savant against Devashta, who is immune to electricty? Not a lot of dot power to bring to bear for her with no eladar's and weakened niac's. She can be particularly problematic in Dragon's Hoarde, where you have another 15 minutes of shrine-less challenge after killing her.

[Kalimah]

Well you start at level 15 so 20 isnt that far off but yeah I do see what you mean there

[Panzermeyer]

I can see that being quite useful for dragonshard farming since shards are the real bottleneck in the long term. However I still usually want to pick up at least some emeralds and diamonds to make level 20 gear, and while it is a bother to convert gems down to lower level gems it is at least an option. The starter epic pieces are less important now that challenge and commendation gear are available, but there are still some quite nice pieces in there and being able to roll a quick Iconic to farm those is a big plus for me. I could definitely see farming just enough of the higher level gems for my shopping list - for which I feel a BF Fire Savant should be quite effective - and then switching to a level 7 to farm shards.

While it is a bit off topic... as a Sorceror 7 you do not have DDoor (or Wall of Fire). Are you relying on Pirate Port drops to get you back to the center or are you always running in groups so there's someone else guarding the base? I was thinking possibly about a WF pure Wiz for Wall of Fire and DDoor, and possibly to have a skelly pet guard the center while soloing, but SP is a concern. These days I'd also seriously consider a Human pure Cleric with the DM of Passage. I am not sure if the APs work out but the Light DiDi SLAs are strong on undead, you have plenty of self-healing, and Passage gives 25% runspeed and DDoor.

Yea I usually run in 2-3 man groups with guildies. It is really just ridiculously easy to run and farm this way. WAYYYYY easier than higher level. But yes I also farm in the multitude of higher level groups for gems as well myself after I get what I need in shards. With Fireball there is no need for firewall, and you have the burning hands and scorch SLA's, and haste and DD from the DM.

[Panzermeyer]

My latest concept for a BF Challenge farmer is Fire Savant (Force secondary) w/FvS splash for AoV bonuses, similar to builds like the Scorcher. The key difference is I also invest a bit into melee DPS, largely to give myself something to do while kiting thru Firewalls:

I wouldn't roll up a 20 challenge farmer. For Heroic ing I would roll with a lvl 15-16 to get the bonus on materials.

And like Ellis said the whole point of a iconic challenge farmer is to roll up run, and throw away if I want.

If you are planning on using this to farm for epic ingredients then that is a different story. But yea, no way would I try and roll up a 20 for heroic farming. Just a waste of good materials, for a little power. I'd rather go for the materials.

[EllisDee37]

I wouldn't roll up a 20 challenge farmer.
[...]
If you are planning on using this to farm for epic ingredients

Ah, if the idea is an epic challenge farmer I would definitely go with the epic farmer linked in my signature. Works fine as a 19/1 wizard/cleric sun-elf.

[unbongwah]

How effective is a fire savant against Devashta, who is immune to electricty? Not a lot of dot power to bring to bear for her with no eladar's and weakened niac's. She can be particularly problematic in Dragon's Hoarde, where you have another 15 minutes of shrine-less challenge after killing her.

Hence the investment in melee & Force spells as a backup.

I've not yet decided whether to park this build at lvl 16 or take it to 21 for epic Challenges, so I show the enhs at 16 & 20. I suppose I could've posted separate versions in each thread, but that seemed like too much trouble.

[Arcanegrin]

I've tried a number of builds for challenges and I think this one just comes out the best period. I've been trying to decide what to change my own bard into and decided on a modified verison of MadCookieQueen's Avatar of Eilistraee. After leveling that character I realized it might be a good option for a challenge farmer, turns out its by far the best Iconic farmer I've tried to date.

Highlights:
Extended Haste, displace, ddoor. 9% doublestrike. 48 STR. Full BAB. Self Healing. CC. Not SP Reliant.

Pros:
Extremely easy to start
Minimal gear transfer
Self Healing
Low reliance on SP
Good Movement Speed
UMD
High damage
Bard
Extended Haste
Real CC

Cons:
No evasion
Requires gear transfer (armor, 2-handed weapon, Plat for ingredients)
Songs take an annoying amount of time, luckily they are only extras for this build

The Build
Purple Dragon Knight, Chaotic Good
Bard 12, Fighter 1, Cleric 2

Stats:
STR - 18, All Levels.
DEX - 8
CON - 14
INT - 8
WIS - 8
CHA - 16

Gear:
Trinket: PDK
Head: PDK
Neck: PDK
Goggles: PDK
Bracers: PDK
Body: Your Choice (I chose Giantcraft leather armor, Haste guard, 10% rage chance, +5% damage)
Cloak: PDK
Ring: PDK
Ring: PDK
Boots: PDK
Gloves: PDK
Belt: PDK
Weapons: Your Choice (I chose Insanity), Carnifex would be great if you want to swap something for Imp. Crit Slashing

Scrolls: raise dead (90%), tenser's transformation (75%), teleport (90%).


Feats:
Empower Healing
Power Attack
Cleave
Extend
Great Cleave
Improve Crit Slashing
Toughness
Two-Handed Fighting

Enhancements:

Warpriest (7 ap): Divine Might, Smite Weakness

Warchanter (28 AP): Inspire Recklessness tier 3, Frozen Fury tier 1, Song of Heroism, Fighting Spirit #2, Action boost spring tier 2, STR 1, Poetic Edda Tier 3, Rough and Ready Tier 3

Spellsinger (21 AP): Music of Makers, Music Studies tier 3, Linger songs tier 3, Marigold: evocation, Sharp Note tier 3, Flicker tier 2, Cha tier 1, Enthrallment

Spells:

Bard:

Level 1: Detect secret doors, Focusing Chant, Hypnotism, Sonic Blast
Level 2: blur, invisibility, rage, soundburst
Level 3: Cure serious, displace, good hope, Haste
Level 4: Break enchantment, Cure critical, Dimension door

Cleric:
Cure light wounds, Nightshield, remove fear, protection from evil

Skills:
Max UMD, Perform, Concentrate, rest into heal

Justification:
A bit of why I think this is so strong as a challenge farmer.

It has extended haste, displacement, invisibility, ddoor, break enchantment (kobold's held), and action boost to movement speed. This means its extremely fast, and doesn't even need a cove hat to lead kobolds to victory.

This build has great dps. Its built to utilize two handed fighting with great swords or axes. Self buffed I can get to 48 STR. Tensers+Divine Might+Scaldic Rage+Rage. Boast gives +1 W while temp hp last. Inspire reckless is 6% doublestrike (pdk bracers give 3% for 9% doublestrike). Smite weakness for 4-7% damage increase. Frozen fury is like a stun for one enemy. Sound burst is a great group stun effect. When testing I took down the dragon at around the same speed as Ellis' original challenge farmer, Devashta was very easy as well (displace).

This bard can CC! With fascinate able to target constructs you can run into a room while singing Fascinate and stop an entire crowd of monsters. Kill them one at a time, or multiple at a time (DPS) but you aren't in much real danger.

This bard won't die that fast. With self healing through heal spells. I heal for around 80-150 HP with one heal critical (with empower healing), cost is 30 sp. With gear outlined I have 648 SP, 16 PRR, 42 AC, Displace, DR 6, 100% fort, deathblock, proof against poison/disease, +5 resist, blind immunity, and Flicker.

Very easy to build. Max STR, 14 con, and 16 cha, dump everything else. First level is the fighter from pdk, next 2 levels are cleric, rest bard. Not much to do in build process. I changed the weapon to a 2 handed for better damage and you need a light armor for bard spells. Insanity is good damage and looks very cool. Giantcraft leather is pretty easy to obtain, decent perks etc. I transferred 10k plat over, for pots, scrolls and ingredients (lesser restore for scalding rage fatigue).


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[EllisDee37]

It does sound quite nice. I'm leaning toward that type of build (and possibly that exact one) as the "winner" of being best disposable heroic challenge farmer. If disposable is the key concept, that type of build is very hard to beat.

Out of curiosity, how long does that extended haste last?

[Arcanegrin]

It does sound quite nice. I'm leaning toward that type of build (and possibly that exact one) as the "winner" of being best disposable heroic challenge farmer. If disposable is the key concept, that type of build is very hard to beat.

Out of curiosity, how long does that extended haste last?

2 minutes and 24 seconds.

[Caprice]

That does look like a strong contender. I have some more goo I want to farm up soon and I'll give it a spin myself.

I think a 2 item swap is really not much of a burden, but I'd quibble that the Giantcraft armor is BtCoA so that's not ideal on a throwaway character IMO. I'd probably use something BtA like the Crimson Chain from the P2P Lordsmarch chain which is easy to farm if you own the content, albeit not as good as the Giantcraft. A Parasitic Breastplate upgraded with Reflex +10 and swapping the PDK trinket for a Symbiont might work out really well and it's all BtA, but that is a lot of farming if you don't have them already.

I'd like to find some way to add a Devotion item, such as the BtA +42 Devo ring you can get almost instantly by rolling a throwaway Vet2 Cleric. Unfortunately the PDK rings are strong for this build (CHA, DB, poison saves) so that's not a permanent option, but it might still be worth having a Devo ring as a swap item. I think that any of the default trinket, goggles, or belt could be swapped out without costing too much (although enhancements might need tweaking to force an even stat). Anyone know of any easy to get Devotion options for any of those slots?

Are you really having much success getting Soundburst to stick without any DC improvements? CHA should be 24 (=16 base + 1 SS enh +6 item + 1 exceptional), so the DC should be 19 (=10 + 2 spell level + 7 CHA mod), and Fort saves tend to be high on mobs so if you are running challenges at a higher level that seems a stretch. Plus it has a Spell Resistance check and there are lots of SR-endowed Drow and Demons running around. Although maybe I'm just jaded from running hElites with their over-scaled saves and underestimating it.

[Caprice]

Does anyone know if Mass Longstrider is available on scrolls at all? I am pretty sure that it isn't available from any vendor, but I am wondering if it is worth bothering to add it to my AH search list. It isn't Haste but gathering the kobolds at the start and hitting them with 7 minutes of +15% runspeed could be useful since I'm not always able to keep them all Hasted, and this build should have plenty of UMD to use scrolls if they exist.

[Arcanegrin]

That does look like a strong contender. I have some more goo I want to farm up soon and I'll give it a spin myself.

I think a 2 item swap is really not much of a burden, but I'd quibble that the Giantcraft armor is BtCoA so that's not ideal on a throwaway character IMO. I'd probably use something BtA like the Crimson Chain from the P2P Lordsmarch chain which is easy to farm if you own the content, albeit not as good as the Giantcraft. A Parasitic Breastplate upgraded with Reflex +10 and swapping the PDK trinket for a Symbiont might work out really well and it's all BtA, but that is a lot of farming if you don't have them already.

I'd like to find some way to add a Devotion item, such as the BtA +42 Devo ring you can get almost instantly by rolling a throwaway Vet2 Cleric. Unfortunately the PDK rings are strong for this build (CHA, DB, poison saves) so that's not a permanent option, but it might still be worth having a Devo ring as a swap item. I think that any of the default trinket, goggles, or belt could be swapped out without costing too much (although enhancements might need tweaking to force an even stat). Anyone know of any easy to get Devotion options for any of those slots?

Are you really having much success getting Soundburst to stick without any DC improvements? CHA should be 24 (=16 base + 1 SS enh +6 item + 1 exceptional), so the DC should be 19 (=10 + 2 spell level + 7 CHA mod), and Fort saves tend to be high on mobs so if you are running challenges at a higher level that seems a stretch. Plus it has a Spell Resistance check and there are lots of SR-endowed Drow and Demons running around. Although maybe I'm just jaded from running hElites with their over-scaled saves and underestimating it.

Parasitic breastplate was my next choice, but didn't have extras to upgrade it. Figured with a couple hundred relics sitting around its more or less a throw-a-way at least for me. Crimson chain is another decent choice, though you do get +5 resistance from PDK items.

I agree with you about the devotion, that ring looks great. Could slot it with some Wis (for level 1 cleric spells) or perform skill augment.

Not getting great results from sound burst, but it worked a few times.

[EllisDee37]

Does anyone know if Mass Longstrider is available on scrolls at all? I am pretty sure that it isn't available from any vendor, but I am wondering if it is worth bothering to add it to my AH search list. It isn't Haste but gathering the kobolds at the start and hitting them with 7 minutes of +15% runspeed could be useful since I'm not always able to keep them all Hasted, and this build should have plenty of UMD to use scrolls if they exist.

I don't recall seeing ranger scrolls, but even if they drop in game you'll never gather enough of them to use reliably in challenges.

I always love seeing high level rangers in crystal cove, though. Mass longstrider is superior to extended haste because it lasts for the entire instance.

[Caprice]

An additional perk to using the PDK is that it comes included in the Shadowfell Conspiracy Standard Edition purchase so it is more widely available. All of the other Iconics require either the Collector's Edition or separate purchase. BF in particular was included as a pre-order bonus only and has to be bought separately from the DDO Store now, which I would suspect makes it less convenient for many players.

I know that some Ranger scrolls drop (e.g. self-only Longstrider, Camouflage). I wouldn't rely on the Mass version if it is available, but it could make things easier every now and again (e.g. when the amount you need is a little high for one run, trying to set a personal record). VIPs can just repeat challenges as necessary, but someone who is relying on the Challenge Token freebies may want to pull out all the stops sometimes.

On a lark I checked the list of hirelings, and as I thought there are no Rangers available.

[Cardtrick]

I've tried a number of builds for challenges and I think this one just comes out the best period. I've been trying to decide what to change my own bard into and decided on a modified verison of MadCookieQueen's Avatar of Eilistraee. After leveling that character I realized it might be a good option for a challenge farmer, turns out its by far the best Iconic farmer I've tried to date.

I posted a similar Challenge farmer PDK bard build a couple of days ago in response to a similar thread, without having seen this.

My version went max CHA, using the PDK CHA to Damage enhancement, and more into spellsinger than warchanter. I also only took 1 cleric level.

That said . . . I like yours better, so I'm not even sure why I'm posting this, except I guess to point out another option for people to consider. (I think I'm just unnecessarily biased against war chanters because the direction the enhancements pass took them annoys me.)

[Thayion516]

Great Thread!

Ok, how about a LV21 Epic ingredients farmer?

If im not mistaken, lv 20 is the cap on cannith challenges. So lv 21 will get max rewards with no scale down. Im not really interested in the "disposability" of the toon as i would prolly want to keep it a while.

Lets assume:
1: Level 21
2: 1 Epic Destiny - no twists.
3: Random loot store bought gear if applicable.

Build would need
1) Great AE/DPS.
2) Self sustainability for 20 mins.
3) DDoor/Fast Movement
4) Haste those kobalds!

Any suggestions?

[whereispowderedsilve]

Great Thread!

Ok, how about a LV21 Epic ingredients farmer?

If im not mistaken, lv 20 is the cap on cannith challenges. So lv 21 will get max rewards with no scale down. Im not really interested in the "disposability" of the toon as i would prolly want to keep it a while.

Lets assume:
1: Level 21
2: 1 Epic Destiny - no twists.
3: Random loot store bought gear if applicable.

Build would need
1) Great AE/DPS.
2) Self sustainability for 20 mins.
3) DDoor/Fast Movement
4) Haste those kobalds!

Any suggestions?

It's in EllisDee's sig: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/434231

[Panzermeyer]

The Build
Purple Dragon Knight, Chaotic Good
Bard 12, Fighter 1, Cleric 2

So why 2 Cleric?

1 Cleric gets you the DM. Actually 1 FvS gets you DM and might be better as it will get you slightly more SP.