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    Default Secure's Build Thread.

    Secure. 12 FVS, 6WIZ, 2PLD, Lawful Good, Bladeforged, Sharadi / Exalted Angle.

    This build is based on a platform (12 FVS, 6 WIZ, 2 splash) that was not conceived by myself. Credit for the divine arcane combo belongs to someone else. My inspiration to create this variant came from watching Sithali-1 play a similar version.

    The idea of this build was to take the power and mana efficient sharadi and combine it with the new shadowguard effect from the shadowscale docent. I take Adamantine Body feat and am able to bypass the 35% spell faliure with a 15% augment, 15% from bladeforged enhancments and 5% from eldritch knight enhancments. Prema DR 30 and DR 60 while under 75% HP is uber. There have been a thousand shiradi build threads so I won't go in to detail about the damage output. I have the MM SLA and CM SLA maxed, empowered, quickend and enlarged. All my FVS cures are enlarged which is uber with the new raids being in such large arenas. Every damage spell is maximized for 1 SP cost.

    I've had loads of fun playing Secure since capping it yesterday. I hope to make some videos of the build soon and if I do I'll post something here.

    Active past life feats:
    WIZ x 3, FVS x 3, SRC x 3, CLR x 3.

    Active epic past life feats:
    Energy Criticals x 1, Brace x 1, Queen x 1.

    Tomes:
    Plus 4 tome on every stat. Plus 5 tomes of wisdom and constitution.

    Feats:
    Adamintine Body, Empower Spell, Enlarge Spell, Past Life Wizard, Extend Spell, Insightful Reflexes, Maximize Spell, Quicken Spell, Toughness.

    Epic Feats:
    Force of Personality, Epic Toughness, Ruin, Hellball, Epic Spellpower(force).

    Base Stats:
    Str 8, Dex 6, Con 18, Int 16, Wis 6, Cha 18(+7 level up).

    Leveling Order:
    1 PLD. Insightful Reflexes
    2 PLD.
    3 FVS. Maximize spell.
    4 FVS.
    5 FVS.
    6 FVS. Extend spell.
    7 FVS.
    8 FVS.
    9 FVS. Past life wizard.
    10 FVS.
    11 FVS.
    12 FVS. Placeholder feat, swap for Adamantine Body at level 28.
    13 FVS.
    14 FVS.
    15 WIZ. Toughness, Quicken Spell.
    16 WIZ.
    17 WIZ.
    18 WIZ. Enlarge Spell.
    19 WIZ.
    20 WIZ. Empower Spell.
    21 Epic. Epic Toughness.
    22 Epic.
    23 Epic.
    24 Epic. Force of Personality.
    25 Epic.
    26 Epic. Epic Spell Power (Force).
    27 Epic. Ruin.
    28 Epic. Hellball.

    Skill Points:
    Concentration 23 ranks, Dipolmacy 17 ranks, Heal 8 ranks, Preform 11 ranks, Repair 18 ranks, Spellcraft 23 ranks, Tumble 1 rank, UMD 11 ranks.

    Destiny:


    Twists:


    Enhancments:



    Gear and augments:
    Head - Helm of the Blue Dragon, insight charisma 3 (false life 40, power 250)
    Goggles - Epic Glimpse of the Soul (draconic soul gem)
    Armor - Shadowscale Docent, shadow guardian (spell agility +15, luck 2)
    Bracers - Epic Inferno Bracers (strength 8)
    Boots - Halcyon Boots (globe of true imperial blood)
    1st ring - Circle of Malevolence
    2nd ring - Lantern Ring (insight int 2, resistance 8)
    Gloves - Epic Fanged Gloves (insight constitution 2)
    Belt - Epic Chord of Reprisals (blindness immunitty)
    Cloak - Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Weave Cloak of Land and Sky (int skill+6, cha skill +4, con skill +2, balance 11, resistance +3, 150 SP, 10HP)
    Trinket - Epic Litany of the Dead (fear immunity)
    Neck - Epic Noxious Embers
    Main weapon Complete Thunder-Forged Alloy Kama. Impulse 150, purple slot, kinetic lore. (magnetism 138, meridian fragment, repair 13)
    Off hand weapon Golden orb of death (corrosion 138, glaciation 138)

    Important note: Adamantine body cappes your dodge at your armors max dex bonus, something I had not realised. There's no need for a dodge item with this setup.

    Synergy with Thunderholm.
    I use eternal scortching light as a swap to weapon when casting archon then swap to my force TF weapon. The eternal scortching light will proc from archon because it was epuipt when it was cast.

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    Stats with gear and some self buffs (MRR 61).


    Solo capable!

    Solo EH Fire on Thunder Peak.
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    Great build! I saw the level split and though... oh yeah, I've done that... but then you proceed to show some new tricks I had not tried yet, or even thought of!

    I always like your builds. Thank you for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient View Post
    Great build! I saw the level split and though... oh yeah, I've done that... but then you proceed to show some new tricks I had not tried yet, or even thought of!

    I always like your builds. Thank you for posting.
    Like you said this split has been done before, it's far from an origonal concept, yet it is my version with my spin on it. High survivability is a constant with my builds due to the conditions I generally play under.

    Still working on this thread, I'll update it with buffed stats at some point. I'm also still working on the gear setup, might take a while to find an optimal setup but I'll keep this updated as I make changes.

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    Are cl6 sla's really worth it or is there some hush hush going on here ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lethargos View Post
    Are cl6 sla's really worth it or is there some hush hush going on here ?
    hush hush? Not sure whats not clear about sharadi using mm's. They are CL9 with the FVS enhansment intense faith, that means I have the maximum number of missiles from MM and half from CM. Any damage spell that hits 5 times is very powerful for sharadi and I'm casting force spells with 650 spell power including metas. I'm not sure I understand what your point is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_slayer View Post
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    The weapon choice I have listed is what I will be using when I'm finished crafting, I have one more weapon to get to teir 3 which is the dwarvencraft lore. I currently use eternal scortching light but as a swap to weapon when casting archon. Funny story, I was running fire peaks with Sith who was using a very simmilar build to Secure. He had just finished crafting his 2 teir 3 weapons, one of them with eternal scorching light, however he had to loose that weapon to use a green steel fire absorb kama. Even though he no longer had the weapon in his hand he noticed the SP regen proc, we thought it was a bug. Later in the raid he realised he had cast archon while holding the thunderforged weapon and it was this that was regenerating the SP. It's a very powerful find. It allows you to gain the benefit of 3 teir 3 effects all at once! So I will be using the weapons listed as main weapons but I also have eternal scorching light.
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    Default Teth....

    Plagiarism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macadope View Post
    Plagiarism.
    Hey SD, I was on a 5 month break when I saw Teth's video showing his build. A week later, I was back in the game, TRing my main Sithali-1 into the monk splash variant. I did make some videos of the build but I also said in the video the build came from Teth and not from me. Sestra is my guildie, and he saw the build I was playing.. he TRed one of his alts into another variant, and while the idea is the same, there's a little variation:

    - Teth, originally: 12 fvs / 6 wiz / 2 barb : barbarian speed, goal is to do speed runs with this guy
    - Me, after Teth and I talked via PMs: 12 fvs / 6 wiz / 2 monk : goal is survivability through dodge
    - Sestra, after he talked to me and saw the power of the build: 12 fvs / 6 wiz / 2 paladin : goal being survivability through DR

    I don't think Sestra has any problem acknowledging the fact the original idea came through Teth, then slowly made its way to Ghallanda. Considering how few endgamers are left and small the community is.. (Heck, I was once your guildie SD in Elite Raiders, and I was also Teth's guildie in Revenants), I don't think we should fight over who posts the build ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by macadope View Post
    Plagiarism.
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-13-FVS-7-Wiz

    Builds evolve... It shouldn't be required to add a foot note for every silly step along the way. To be honest, I care more about a clean writeup than the first person to mix wiz with FVS or use DR or use barb runspeed... not like all of those haven't been done before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symerith View Post

    I don't think Sestra has any problem acknowledging the fact the original idea came through Teth, then slowly made its way to Ghallanda. Considering how few endgamers are left and small the community is.. (Heck, I was once your guildie SD in Elite Raiders, and I was also Teth's guildie in Revenants), I don't think we should fight over who posts the build ^^

    Sith.
    No way, this is my build and knowone else has ever done anything even close. Jokes, hey I say in my 2nd post "It's far from an origonal concept, yet it is my version with my spin on it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_slayer View Post
    Secure. 12 FVS, 6WIZ, 2PLD, Lawful Good, Bladeforged, Sharadi / Exalted Angle.

    Neat idea, but what do you do from 15-20 - you have 1 wiz lvl, 8 STR, do you melee/cast fvs spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicaldad View Post
    neat idea, but what do you do from 15-20 - you have 1 wiz lvl, 8 str, do you melee/cast fvs spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicalDad View Post
    Neat idea, but what do you do from 15-20 - you have 1 wiz lvl, 8 STR, do you melee/cast fvs spells?
    It was suprisingly easy and fun to level this build in heroics. Like Sith said, blade barrier is a beast, even with dumped wisdom. Holy smite and wizard sla's was enough to zerg through heroics at running speed. At 20 with sharadi I was able to elite streak all the way to cap without issues. Don't think i drank even 1 pot from 15-28, that's how mana efficient this build is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_slayer View Post
    No way, this is my build and knowone else has ever done anything even close. Jokes, hey I say in my 2nd post "It's far from an origonal concept, yet it is my version with my spin on it".
    Absolutely, that is exactly what I was trying to say in my first response to this thread. In addition to a very clever new spin, you took time to write it up in a nice format so that other players could enjoy the game. The poor sport response post was inappropriate.

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    nerf shiradi!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishr View Post
    nerf shiradi!!!
    Yea its a valid point, I would just remove joy but joy aside a maxed dc sorc or wiz will compete even out preform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient View Post
    Absolutely, that is exactly what I was trying to say in my first response to this thread. In addition to a very clever new spin, you took time to write it up in a nice format so that other players could enjoy the game. The poor sport response post was inappropriate.
    People feel they own their builds and get protective I guess, the problem with that is that other people will come up with almost the exact same idea even though they have never seen anyone else do it. As for this sort of build, a shiradi divine arcane combo, many people have done it and posted it. Who was the first is a silly discussion IMO but my 2 cents are that when destinys came out on lamanmia, I noticed someone from Orien doing it. That was day 1 on Lama but maybe someone had logged on before them and made the first, lol, silly discussion. This is my spin on a build style thats already been flogged to death, it's fun as hell to play and I highly recomend it.

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    Very nice twist to the build, I love it! I never put a stamp on this build, and I'm sure it was done way before me. Besides, this build is completely different from mine, so I don't think the 2 are even comparable. As for a minor suggestion: take corrosion augment over glaciation, it works better for energy burst when you aren't using fire and works with hellball since it procs acid 100% of time unlike cold which only procs for half damage when the mob saves. So 100% proc for 100% or 50% dmg > 50% dmg proc 50% of the time (relatively depending on hellball dc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_slayer View Post
    Yea its a valid point, I would just remove joy but joy aside a maxed dc sorc or wiz will compete even out preform.
    Nice build idea - but this kinda gets at my perspective on hybrid caster-types. I took my sorc through several ETR's and finally brought him into endgame not too long ago, the sheer power coming out of that toon kinda destroys most other casters for me, lol.

    Only issue is that my sorcs defenses suck in comparison, with just bladeforged quicken recon to rely on, although I enter elemental apotheosis when I approach priests who cast soundburst or what not quite often. A lot more challenging to play without saves, but the offense is spectacular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xTethx View Post
    Very nice twist to the build, I love it! I never put a stamp on this build, and I'm sure it was done way before me. Besides, this build is completely different from mine, so I don't think the 2 are even comparable. As for a minor suggestion: take corrosion augment over glaciation, it works better for energy burst when you aren't using fire and works with hellball since it procs acid 100% of time unlike cold which only procs for half damage when the mob saves. So 100% proc for 100% or 50% dmg > 50% dmg proc 50% of the time (relatively depending on hellball dc)
    I already swapped it earlier today, corrosion that is, and changed to acid energy burst. The build may not be simmilar to yours but it was partly inspired by you playing your version, so thanks for that.

    I found another neat trick to boost defence as well. I took divine power spell which raises base attack bonus and therefor because of adamantine body gives 10 PRR. I also swapped the eldritch knight enhansment light armor proficiency for the second core ability. It costs only 1 AP and gives the 5% spell failure bypass as well as 10 force spell power. Also found a new gear setup, will update it now.

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