Sting: Dex Shuriken Build

[LordTigerDawn]

Posting this as an example for Thrower Builds.

Update for U30

Sting
Halfing Rogue 11 Ranger 6 Monk 3
Lawful Neutral
36 point

This is a Halfling Dex based Shuriken Build built around U17, but still played today.
This toon focuses on dps only, defense is lacking so is best played for an experienced hand or as backup dps to a party.

Special Nods to:
Flavius Maximus (U19 write up, but he did a good job writing about it)
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...kwoods-Chucker
Jakeelala
His many thrower write ups have inspired me to keep playing this toon

Offense:
Sniper Shot
Aimed Shot
Uses precise shot only (no improved imprecise shot)
Shadowdancer Destiny

Starting Stats priority:
Dex 20
Con 14
Int 14
plus whatever

Feats
1 Quick Draw
3 Weapon Focus: Thrown
6 Adept of Forms
9 Weapon Focus: Ranged
12 Master of Forms
15 Imp Crit: Thrown
18 Grandmaster of Forms
21 Overwhelming Critical
24 Quicken Spell
27 Epic Reflexes
30 Dodge

26 Epic Spellpower Positive
28 Doubleshot
29 Epic skill focus hide
30 Scion of Ethereal Plane

Monk 1 Shuriken Expertise
Monk 2 Precision

Rogue 10 Opportunist

Ranger 2 Rapid Shot
Ranger 4 Precise Shot

Sneak Attack 17d6

AP:

Halfling 6 For Dex
Deepwood Stalker Tier 5 36 Heavy Draw, Imp Precise Shot, Strikes Like Lightning
Thief Acrobat 3 Fast Movement
Harper Agent Tier 4 27 Dex x2, Ranged Power
Ninja Spy 8 Adv Ninja Training, Sneak Attack

Epic Destiny:
Shadowdancer Max Dex, Sealed Soul, Executioners Shot (no shadow form)

Twist:
Waiting in the Weeds
Whirling Wrists
Cocoon
Dex
Dex

Gear:
Goggles Tharnes Goggles - Sneak
Armour Epic TOEE Robe
Bracers Dumathoins Bracers
Ring 1 Ring of Deceit
Boots Boots of Blessed Travels
Gloves LGS - HP - Dex
Ring 2 Loot Gen - 14 dex
Belt Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance
Cloak Mysterious Cloak
Trinket Epic Litany - +2 profane dex
Necklace Necklace of Eidolons - +4 ins dex
Head Dragon Masque - Ins Sneak
Weapon Shuriken - Thunderforged Tier 3 - Mortal Fear
Weapon 2 TOEE Short Sword

Final Stats:
Str meh
Dex 75
Con 38
Int meh
Wis meh
Cha meh
Hide 154 Still Working on it

HP 881
AC 100
Dodge 25

Fort 53
Reflex 85
Will 43

Bab 22
Double shot 49
Rngd Weapon Power 102

PRR 30
MRR 50

Dex Breakdown
Base 27
Tome 5
Enh 8
Items 20 14+4+2
Ship 2
Epic 8 6+2 Twist
Exc 1
Grandmaster Air 4

Ranged Power:
Epic 30
Shadowdancer 24
TOEE 24
Quiver 4
Feats 4
Harper 9
Tome 2
Somewhere 5 (Not Ship Buff)

Stuff still to do:
Tome +7 Dex Dex +2
Ring 16 Dex Dex +2 (seen one, AH)
Ring 7 ins dex Dex +3

Gear is always a work in progress, LGS Shuri if they ever fix the Alignment passing DR issues
Defense when possible.
Hide Skill still a work in progress - aka. Shround HP item - Dex would add more, but not built one yet

Bruntsmash Death time: 30 Secs

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[Saekee]

I was thinking with your level split & title that you would pair ninja sting & rogue venomed blades

[LordTigerDawn]

I was thinking with your level split & title that you would pair ninja sting & rogue venomed blades

Trash is dead before it would matter. Poison also only happens on crits for the increased dmg.

The above dragon I only attacked 5 times before it was dead.

[Saekee]

Trash is dead before it would matter. Poison also only happens on crits for the increased dmg.

The above dragon I only attacked 5 times before it was dead.

it is handy on hp bags. The stacks add up quickly and venomed blades scale 200% with ranged power, plus 100% more with full ninja stack. It is a handy DoT. But to each his or her own.

[jakeelala]

it is handy on hp bags. The stacks add up quickly and venomed blades scale 200% with ranged power, plus 100% more with full ninja stack. It is a handy DoT. But to each his or her own.

Its garbage on HP bags to, post Shadowstar and Crit Range nerfs.

Great build Sting, I've been threorycrafting a SA damage Thrower build, and this is a great cut of it.

I'm considering a 14 Rogue/6Monk. Ranger is awesome, but 10k Ranged power and Doubleshot is huge, and you only 10% Doubleshot in Mechanic, but actually gain some throw speed, SA dice, and Ranged Power.

What do you think?

[unbongwah]

I'm considering a 14 Rogue/6Monk. Ranger is awesome, but 10k Ranged power and Doubleshot is huge, and you only 10% Doubleshot in Mechanic, but actually gain some throw speed, SA dice, and Ranged Power.

I was thinking rog 13 / monk 6 / rgr 1: 4 APs in DWS gets you +2d6 SA and +5m PBS range. [EDIT: and the +3 Hide bonus is another +1 SA from SotEthereal Plane.] I presume you'd be going T5 Mechanic, so you're talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 7d6 rog lvls + 3d6 racial + 2d6 Ninja + 2d6 DWS + 2d6 Mechanic + 3d6 ISA + 6d6 SD = 25d6 SA. [Altho maybe DC or LD is better than SD?] That's 39 AP Mechanic + 11 APs halfling + 8 APs Ninja + 4 APs DWS = 62 APs, so not enough left for Killer. 15 APs Harper (+9 RP) and 3 more APs into Ninja for Shadow Form?

[LordTigerDawn]

Its garbage on HP bags to, post Shadowstar and Crit Range nerfs.

Great build Sting, I've been threorycrafting a SA damage Thrower build, and this is a great cut of it.

I'm considering a 14 Rogue/6Monk. Ranger is awesome, but 10k Ranged power and Doubleshot is huge, and you only 10% Doubleshot in Mechanic, but actually gain some throw speed, SA dice, and Ranged Power.

What do you think?

I think that would be a good build if focusing on IPS. Aimed shot is a huge loss if playing precise shot builds. Feats might not be as nice as with ranger involved as well. I found that to true with the bard shuriken.

Why rogue 14? Could be a 1 splash... Not sure what though. Monk 7 is a waste.

As with so many builds I find the limit is the ap spread. I would have to find a plan for that. Making me think.

[LordTigerDawn]

I was thinking rog 13 / monk 6 / rgr 1: 4 APs in DWS gets you +2d6 SA and +5m PBS range. [EDIT: and the +3 Hide bonus is another +1 SA from SotEthereal Plane.] I presume you'd be going T5 Mechanic, so you're talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 7d6 rog lvls + 3d6 racial + 2d6 Ninja + 2d6 DWS + 2d6 Mechanic + 3d6 ISA + 6d6 SD = 25d6 SA. [Altho maybe DC or LD is better than SD?] That's 39 AP Mechanic + 11 APs halfling + 8 APs Ninja + 4 APs DWS = 62 APs, so not enough left for Killer. 15 APs Harper (+9 RP) and 3 more APs into Ninja for Shadow Form?

39 mech
16 - 18 halfling
8 ninja
4 dws
11 Harper

But I would do...

39 mech
6 halfling
6 ninja
4 dws
25 harper

Ranged power and Harper skill enhancements fix the dmg lost to dmg dice.

Dancer would be my choice but dread is better dmg only because of the crit mult addition in tier 5.

[LordTigerDawn]

I think that would be a good build if focusing on IPS. Aimed shot is a huge loss if playing precise shot builds. Feats might not be as nice as with ranger involved as well. I found that to true with the bard shuriken.

Why rogue 14? Could be a 1 splash... Not sure what though. Monk 7 is a waste.

As with so many builds I find the limit is the ap spread. I would have to find a plan for that. Making me think.

Splash 1pally for 1d4 light dmg, or 2 pally for saves and light dmg?? Cheap ap wise