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    Default List of bugged shards

    Here's a list of bugged shards in the new Cannith Crafting. In a perfect world, devs would see this and make these seemingly simple fixes on the development build so that they're fixed the next time we get a patch or update.

    A bugged shard is defined as a shard whose description says it goes on an item, but the machine that attaches it says it goes somewhere else. In all cases on live, the machine wins over the shard.

    Armor Piercing
    Shard says: Prefix Weapon, Trinket; Suffix Gloves, Trinket
    Machine says: Prefix Weapon, Shield; Suffix Gloves, Trinket

    Insightful Deadly
    Shard says: Extra Weapon, Trinket
    Machine says: Extra Weapon, Shield

    Spell Resistance
    Shard says: Prefix Cloak, Belt, Armor, Shield, Trinket
    Machine says: Prefix Cloak, Belt, Armor, Ring, Trinket

    Parrying
    Shard says: Suffix Helm, Belt, Boots, Trinket; Extra Bracers, Armor, Shield
    Machine says: Suffix Helm, Belt, Boots, Trinket; Extra Bracers, Armor

    Weapon damage effects: Acid, Cold, Electric, Fire, Sonic, Force, Light, Negative
    Shards say: Suffix Weapon
    Machine says: Prefix Weapon

    Deathblock (bound only; unbound shard properly shows belt)
    Shard says: Suffix Armor, Shield
    Machine says: Suffix Belt, Armor, Shield

    Doublestrike
    Shard says: Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Trinket
    Machine says: Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Shield

    Doubleshot
    Shard says: Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Trinket
    Machine says: Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon

    Incite
    Shard says: Prefix Helmet, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Trinket
    Machine says: Prefix Helmet, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Shield


    Note: Red text simply highlights differences. It is not meant to imply that anything in red should be removed.


    Post any more you find and I'll add them to the list.

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    I assume it's a bug although I think the shard/machine agree on the descriptions.

    Bound deathblock shards cannot be put on belts, unbound deathblock shards can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    I assume it's a bug although I think the shard/machine agree on the descriptions.

    Bound deathblock shards cannot be put on belts, unbound deathblock shards can.
    Confirmed in-game? The descriptions actually don't match: The bound shard says it goes on Armor, Shield, but the machine that attaches says Armor, Belt, Shield. So it should be able to go on belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Confirmed in-game? The descriptions actually don't match: The bound shard says it goes on Armor, Shield, but the machine that attaches says Armor, Belt, Shield. So it should be able to go on belts.
    This was in game but I'd have to check again, it just occurred to me that I may have tried to make it before the hotfix so maybe a change snuck in then.

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    +1

    stuff not going on trinket as advertized is particularly frustrating

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    Found another one, added to the OP:

    Incite as a suffix goes on "Weapon, Shield" not "Weapon, Trinket."

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    Default Keen on shields?

    Keen lists as offhand weapon/shield but will not go on a shield. I assume they dropped impact and simply allowed keen to apply to bludgeoning weapons. I don't know if leaving it off of shields was intentional or not.

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    edit: nvm i forgot the mark of cannith my bad, it's late
    Last edited by Eryhn; 11-12-2016 at 05:31 PM.

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    Bump.

    Just got bit by the parrying shard bug. Wiki could've been clearer, too. "Shields (miss)" isn't exactly obvious.

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    Two related issues:

    1. In some places it says "off hand weapon/shield" where it should really just say "off hand weapon" (or maybe just "weapon"? Is there anything different about "off hand"?) because you can't apply some of those shards to shields (they're treated completely differently in new CC).

    2. In lootgen insightful spell power goes into the "extra" slot, in CC it goes into the suffix slot. Donno if this is WAI or not, but it seems odd and inconsistent since "insightful X" is in all other case an "extra."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerPounce View Post
    Is there anything different about "off hand"?
    "Off hand weapon" means one-handed weapons. It'll just say "Weapon" if it means any weapon, including two-handers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    I assume it's a bug although I think the shard/machine agree on the descriptions.

    Bound deathblock shards cannot be put on belts, unbound deathblock shards can.
    Unless I am misunderstanding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Thanks for the list.
    will this be targeted for fix any time soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwyjibo View Post
    Unless I am misunderstanding...
    I haven't tried it again in the 2 months since I posted. We've had a couple updates/patches since then, it's quite possible they fixed it.

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    I will try to have these fixed for the next update in the following way:


    Armor Piercing
    Prefix Weapon, Shield; Suffix Gloves, Trinket

    Insightful Deadly
    Extra Weapon, Shield. Trinket

    Spell Resistance
    Prefix Cloak, Belt, Armor, Shield, Ring, Trinket

    Parrying
    Suffix Helm, Belt, Boots, Trinket; Extra Bracers, Armor, Shield

    Weapon damage effects: Acid, Cold, Electric, Fire, Sonic, Force, Light, Negative
    Prefix Weapon

    Deathblock (bound only; unbound shard properly shows belt)
    Suffix Belt, Armor, Shield

    Doublestrike
    Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Shield

    Doubleshot
    Prefix Belt, Gloves, Trinket; Suffix Weapon

    Incite
    Prefix Helmet, Trinket; Suffix Weapon, Shield

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries View Post
    I will try to have these fixed for the next update in the following way:
    Looks good.

    While you're in there, would you consider adding keen to shields?

    I can get behind the logic of not including doublestrike and doubleshot suffix on trinkets. Keeping the suffix versions weapon-only seems fine. (Prefix still goes on Belt, Gloves, Trinket, so flexibility is still there.)

    Honestly, I could also see keeping Insightful Deadly off trinkets. (You have it penciled in to be put back on trinkets.) I might just leave it as a weapon/shield only effect. I'm sure most people would rather be able to put it on trinkets, but I've made my peace with not having it and putting it on trinkets presents tough choices for both already-crafted gearsets and future gearset planning. Then again, tough choices = good game design, so I could go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Looks good.

    Honestly, I could also see keeping Insightful Deadly off trinkets. (You have it penciled in to be put back on trinkets.) I might just leave it as a weapon/shield only effect. I'm sure most people would rather be able to put it on trinkets, but I've made my peace with not having it and putting it on trinkets presents tough choices for both already-crafted gearsets and future gearset planning. Then again, tough choices = good game design, so I could go either way.
    Yeah, currently the only reason to craft a dps weapon is to get that other exceptional bonus to dmg, the weapon effects are generally really bad.

    Fixable by:
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    Adding vorpal to be craftable (for the +W)
    Adding back scaling version of keen (for the +W)
    +weapon/shield exclusive insightful deadly

    This makes up for an ~okay DPS offhand item, not brilliant but works if someone just cant get a named alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Looks good.
    Honestly, I could also see keeping Insightful Deadly off trinkets. (You have it penciled in to be put back on trinkets.) I might just leave it as a weapon/shield only effect. I'm sure most people would rather be able to put it on trinkets, but I've made my peace with not having it
    jeez ...
    Don't do that!

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