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    Quote Originally Posted by mraz View Post
    what difficulty is this?
    Just elite for damage tracking by level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
    Just elite for damage tracking by level.
    ok, thx

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    Default Looking for the bare necessities

    Nerfed in update 42, taking build down. Also don't believe nerfs to pure classes due to multiclassing is healthy for game.
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    Default Wherever I wander, whenever I roam

    Nerfed in update 42, taking build down. Also don't believe nerfs to pure classes due to multiclassing is healthy for game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
    Wherever I wander, whenever I roam
    I couldn't be fonder of my big home
    The bees are buzzin' in the trees
    To make some honey just for me
    24 Master of Artifice
    Alright, I'm biting.

    What? Why? Build?

    Wouldn't bear form for a caster be a bad idea for cooldowns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelodic View Post
    What? Why? Build?
    It's an Artificer-based lightning caster with a druid splash for Season's Herald bonuses (EDIT: and Prey on the Weak which apparently applies to spell dmg as well) plus a cleric splash for Sound Burst (lowest-level AoE CC spell with helplessness). Bear form is just for lulz probably or maybe Ursa Protector bonuses.
    Wouldn't bear form for a caster be a bad idea for cooldowns?
    I'm guessing it relies on arty SLAs which aren't effected by CD penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    I'm guessing it relies on arty SLAs which aren't effected by CD penalties.
    I did not know SLAs aren't effected by the CD penalty...
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    The build is laid out over several posts and pictures, both before and after this one.

    Using NW for helpless damage instead of divine healing. The build had enough healing to heal a bear! Others might need DD for spell pen though so I didn't specify enhancements past 15. Just gonna hafta bear through it and take what you think is best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
    Using NW for helpless damage instead of divine healing.
    Okay. I didn't see a full Enhancement list - just the partial screenshot at lvl 15 you posted - so I just guessed at the rest.
    The build had enough healing to heal a bear!
    Looks like you got Healing Hands + Admixtures + Cocoon + Heal scrolls. So what like 11 APs into RMM for CLW+CSW Admixtures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Okay. I didn't see a full Enhancement list - just the partial screenshot at lvl 15 you posted - so I just guessed at the rest.

    Looks like you got Healing Hands + Admixtures + Cocoon + Heal scrolls. So what like 11 APs into RMM for CLW+CSW Admixtures?
    If you need. If you don't need, because you use a 120% HAMP Kama main hand from 12-30, then moar dps and just hard cast the admixtures! I'm using a dozen or so in each druid tree and the rest in AT. Others might want more spell pen for higher level drow in the DD tree. Or want some repeater or runearm use and want some harper and BE. Or some racial abilities. I'm just sorta winging it for a general idea of what to do.

    I'm using all three druid trees simply because I enjoy it. I've always wanted an animal form build that used actual druid enhancements. It's too bad SH had the spell pen removed.
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    Beaver
    14/6 Druid/Barbarian
    True Neutral Half-Orc


    Level Order

    1. Barbarian . . . 6. Barbarian. . . 11. Druid. . . . . 16. Druid
    2. Barbarian . . . 7. Barbarian. . . 12. Druid. . . . . 17. Druid
    3. Druid. . . . . .8. Barbarian . . .13. Druid . . . . .18. Druid
    4. Druid. . . . . .9. Barbarian . . .14. Druid . . . . .19. Druid
    5. Druid. . . . . 10. Druid. . . . . 15. Druid. . . . . 20. Druid



    Stats
    . . . . . . . .28pt . . 32pt. . .34pt . . 36pt. . .Tome. . .Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .---- . . ----. . .---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . 20. . . .20 . . . 20. . . .20 . . . +7 . . . 4: STR
    Dexterity . . . 10. . . .12 . . . 13. . . .14 . . . +7 . . . 8: STR
    Constitution. . 15. . . .16 . . . 16. . . .16 . . . +7 . . .12: STR
    Intelligence. . .6. . . . 6 . . . .6. . . . 6 . . . +7 . . .16: STR
    Wisdom. . . . . 10. . . .10 . . . 11. . . .12 . . . +7 . . .20: STR
    Charisma. . . . .6. . . . 6 . . . .6. . . . 6 . . . +7 . . .



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Power Attack
    .3. . . . : Cleave
    .6. . . . : Great Cleave
    .6 Barb . :
    .9. . . . : Natural Fighting
    12. . . . : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
    15. . . . : Natural Fighting
    18. . . . : Natural Fighting

    .4 Druid. : Wild Shape 1: Bear
    .5 Druid. :
    11 Druid. : Wild Shape 1: Wolf
    14 Druid. : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear
    17 Druid. : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf
    19 Druid. : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental


    Spells

    Druid
    1. Maul, Takedown, Magic Fang, Ram's Might, Jump
    2. Barkskin, Align Fang, Resist Energy, Bear's Endurance, Bull's Strength
    3. Shred, Spiderskin, Vigor, Water Breathing, Neutralize Poison
    4. Rising Fury, Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds, Mass Lesser Vigor, Mass Longstrider
    5. Animal Growth, Greater Vigor, Cure Critical Wounds, Stoneskin
    6. Tremor, Fire Shield, Mass Vigor, Tenacious Pack
    7. Relentless Onslaught, True Seeing, Regenerate


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Frenzied Berserker (40 AP)
    • Die Hard, Frenzied Toughness, Frenzy
      1. Power Rage III, Athletics II
      2. Blood Tribute III, Sprint Boost III
      3. Blood Trail III, Supreme Cleave III, Constitution
      4. Wade In III, Constitution
      5. Focused Wrath II, Lash Out III, Accelerated Metabolism, Tantrum

    Half-Orc (19 AP)
    • Orcish Fury, Orcish Strength, Orcish Fury II, Orcish Strength II
      1. Orcish Weapon Training
      2. Orcish Weapon Training
      3. Improved Power Attack III, Orcish Weapon Training
      4. Raging Crush, Power Rage III

    Nature's Protector (14 AP)
    • Nature's Protector, Nature's Defense, Magical Beast
      1. Enchanted Defense III, Fey's Blessing III
      2. Grizzled Defense III
      3. Strength

    Ravager (7 AP)
    • Furious Rage
      1. Barbarian Power Attack III, Hardy Rage III

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    Quote Originally Posted by puberdade View Post
    Nature's Protector (14 AP)
    • Nature's Protector, Nature's Defense, Magical Beast
      1. Enchanted Defense III, Fey's Blessing III
      2. Grizzled Defense III
      3. Strength
    You need Beast Awakened if you want to be able to cast druid spells while Raged. I would max out Rage of the Beast line anyway, since it adds extra Rage charges (stacks w/barb's IIRC) and for the extra Melee Power from Primal Beast and heal amp from Enduring Beast.

    EDIT: FWIW, the crit multiplier bonus from Nature's Warrior should stack with tier-5 barb crit bonuses; that obviously puts a strain on your APs, though. 21 NW / 23 NP / 36-ish FB or Ravager leaves no APs for other things.
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    Default And take glance at the fancy ants

    Nerfed in update 42, taking build down. Also don't believe nerfs to pure classes due to multiclassing is healthy for game.
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    Default The bare necessities of life

    Nerfed in update 42, taking build down. Also don't believe nerfs to pure classes due to multiclassing is healthy for game.
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    Default Just a quick R5 test run!

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    You've got a 78 wisdom in reaper, but a 100 Burst of Glacial Wrath DC? How does that break down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerPounce View Post
    You've got a 78 wisdom in reaper, but a 100 Burst of Glacial Wrath DC? How does that break down?
    No clue! I just go off soundburst in town, and BoGW being 18 base higher DC at cap, since it doesn't display a DC. I don't worry about DCs or spell resistance anymore. I just assume whatever is invested in will just work, at least for leveling and some easier at cap reaper.

    I think BoGW is base DC character level, and soundburst is base DC 12, being a level 2 spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
    No clue! I just go off soundburst in town, and BoGW being 18 base higher DC at cap, since it doesn't display a DC. I don't worry about DCs or spell resistance anymore. I just assume whatever is invested in will just work, at least for leveling and some easier at cap reaper.

    I think BoGW is base DC character level, and soundburst is base DC 12, being a level 2 spell.
    BoGW is suppose to be 20 + casting stat + evocation bonuses. So 8 higher than an un-heightened soundburst. So if your soundburst is 80, BoGW is 88, not 100. That still means you'd need +34 evocation bonuses with a 78 wisdom. Maybe with all the past lives, a slavers set and a ravenloft casting set? Even 88 sounds like a stretch with such a low WIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerPounce View Post
    BoGW is suppose to be 20 + casting stat + evocation bonuses. So 8 higher than an un-heightened soundburst. So if your soundburst is 80, BoGW is 88, not 100. That still means you'd need +34 evocation bonuses with a 78 wisdom. Maybe with all the past lives, a slavers set and a ravenloft casting set? Even 88 sounds like a stretch with such a low WIS.
    How sure are you that the tool tip isn't wrong? I was under the impression that most epic, ED, and many other high level DC ability tool tips aren't exact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
    How sure are you that the tool tip isn't wrong? I was under the impression that most epic, ED, and many other high level DC ability tool tips aren't exact.
    I'm not "sure," but I don't see any evidence to the contrary. Do you have some testing that shows the DC is massively higher than it states?

    I'm not trying to give you a hard time here. You said you had a 100 DC with sub-optimal gear, and I was wondering what your secret was. Kind of sound like your secret is that you made the number up based on wishful thinking...
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