75% off character slots- YAY!

Mechgraber

Well-known member
I'm curious; what do people actually use 40 character slots for? I have 5 characters I play and invest in, and I have 10 bank toons. As new expansions release over time, I go back and eat most things from older expansions I've haven't used in years freeing up space. My max is still at 23 and I don't see myself using those for a long while yet

Altaholics.
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
I keep a number of characters at certain levels so I can always join in when a friend has the time and wants to play. I also made a bunch of different endgame builds back when 20 was cap. I sometimes return to fix up an old character that has been buried by modern updates, which then inevitably gets buried again by new modern updates.
Yeah, me too. Seven real toons, one more for testing and playing with a casual friend, 4 old "shelved" toons that I use to play with different friends who only play once or twice a week (they are also partial mules), and then mules, lots of mules: special items &pots, rare scrolls, tomes, several daily/gold dice (the stones accumulate when I'm in the cap or doing iconic lives), cosmetics one (this one has all the space bought - don't judge me), cannith crafting banks, mules with gear based on levels (1-5, 6-9, 10-14, 15-19, 20-29, and several legendary mules), etc.

And on top of that, I have two mules that I only have when I'm VIP (and delete when I'm not) that are usually empty, but when I do a TR I dump some stuff from the shared bank into one to make room there, and into the other I put the character's bta stuff that I won't need until epic/legendary levels.

Yeah, I could use a few more slots lol.
 

Vua

Mostly A Douche
It is too late if you are on Thelanis. Over the years I have bought every cheap unbound bag and have a large stock on an alt. My plan is to make a killing on the shard auction house (if Astral Shards transfer). :LOL:
Back in the day I used to buy the medium collectable bags from the Portable Hole and sell them on the auction house. This was before the shard exchange. I would never have done that for shards. It was borderline scummy just doing it for plat, but a lot of people didn't seem to realize you could buy them from regular vendors so I was doing them a service, kind of. I had a booming business for months until I told a couple guildies about it. Next thing you know my prices were being undercut on the auction house.

I'm not comparing it to what you're doing, you just jarred that memory loose.
 

Pinecone

Well-known member
More like 60 inventory and 20 bank slots. I have zero desire to drag multiple mules through quests to unlock 80 more slots. The only mules I have with 160 slots are ignored hardcore characters.
Fair enough. It took me less than 3 hours, and I prefer it over having twice the number of characters.
 

Vua

Mostly A Douche
More like 60 inventory and 20 bank slots. I have zero desire to drag multiple mules through quests to unlock 80 more slots. The only mules I have with 160 slots are ignored hardcore characters.
This is all of my bank toons as well, unless they were converted to bank toons from old characters I actually played. No point in putting the effort in to get extra space when you can just create a new bank toon in 2 minutes.
 

Ptalon

Well-known member
...and then there is today's news.
Going to have a lot less servers....
so.....
how is this going to work for those who may have more characters than available character slots!?!?!
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
...and then there is today's news.
Going to have a lot less servers....
so.....
how is this going to work for those who may have more characters than available character slots!?!?!
Good question. Pure speculation: If it's like LOTRO, they'll give us about 5 more slots per server, which might not be enough for some people... they'll have to delete characters or leave them inactive until they get more slots.

I have the maximum number of slots on one server, and only a few characters on the others, so I hope that even when they're all concentrated, there are enough slots for all them. But I know there are other people who have many characters on multiple servers.
 

Mornyngstar

Well-known member
I am lucky, I have 53 slots opened, 47 used on Thelanis, 10 on Cormyr and 40-50 used across the others servers. I should be ok.
 

erethizon1

Well-known member
Despite the harsh shock treatment SSG has given us with their anti-alts policy, it's hard to kick the addiction :cry:
I wouldn't say there is so much an anti-alts policy as an actual, legitimate, pro-main policy that almost every other game in the world lacks. Most games basically tell you, "Have you been playing your main for 6 months? Then you should try quitting, because all future time spent on your main is going to be tossed right in the trash earning gear that will be throw out as soon as we drop our next expansion and no other progress at all will be made on your character in the mean time."

DDO actually allows you to invest in your main character. You can spend 10 years playing just your main character and it will actually grow stronger because of the time invested. Naturally, if you want to have the strongest characters possible, that will leave little time for alts, but lack of focus on a single project always results in the reduced results. Olympic gymnasts don't also practice their swimming and tennis because then they wouldn't have the time to be Olympic level gymnasts.
 

erethizon1

Well-known member
This is all of my bank toons as well, unless they were converted to bank toons from old characters I actually played. No point in putting the effort in to get extra space when you can just create a new bank toon in 2 minutes.
The main point is, eventually, you run out of characters. I think I have 32 of the maximum 35 characters and all of them have 160 inventory space. If I get MD I will need another mule for level 13 gear as my 11-14 gear mule is too full for another expansion's worth of stuff. I also need to get a new mule since my level 1-4 mule is packed, so the new quest packs are going to make that one overflow too. I am dangerously close to not having enough mules even with 160 space each. I am very much not looking forward to running out of space again. I'll have to decide whether it is worth buying the much more expensive bank and personal inventory for the mules, or whether it is time to finally uninstall DDO forever so the inventory nightmare can finally be over.
 

erethizon1

Well-known member
Good question. Pure speculation: If it's like LOTRO, they'll give us about 5 more slots per server, which might not be enough for some people... they'll have to delete characters or leave them inactive until they get more slots.

I have the maximum number of slots on one server, and only a few characters on the others, so I hope that even when they're all concentrated, there are enough slots for all them. But I know there are other people who have many characters on multiple servers.
In addition to giving us 5 slots they should simply sell more slots. Obviously, it would be nice if they did it during this 75% off sale, but even if they wait to sell them at full price they can have more than 30 character slots in the DDO store. Just add more character slots so people can combine their characters from multiple servers.
 

PersonMan

Well-known member
I wouldn't say there is so much an anti-alts policy as an actual, legitimate, pro-main policy that almost every other game in the world lacks. Most games basically tell you, "Have you been playing your main for 6 months? Then you should try quitting, because all future time spent on your main is going to be tossed right in the trash earning gear that will be throw out as soon as we drop our next expansion and no other progress at all will be made on your character in the mean time."

DDO actually allows you to invest in your main character. You can spend 10 years playing just your main character and it will actually grow stronger because of the time invested. Naturally, if you want to have the strongest characters possible, that will leave little time for alts, but lack of focus on a single project always results in the reduced results. Olympic gymnasts don't also practice their swimming and tennis because then they wouldn't have the time to be Olympic level gymnasts.
I agree that DDO mostly has a pro-main policy, but every time they overhaul an existing tree or system it becomes very tedious trying to fix alts that get broken. The main reason for me to have alts is to be able to just log in and play the character rather than worrying about where I am in the TR process.
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
I wouldn't say there is so much an anti-alts policy as an actual, legitimate, pro-main policy that almost every other game in the world lacks. Most games basically tell you, "Have you been playing your main for 6 months? Then you should try quitting, because all future time spent on your main is going to be tossed right in the trash earning gear that will be throw out as soon as we drop our next expansion and no other progress at all will be made on your character in the mean time."

DDO actually allows you to invest in your main character. You can spend 10 years playing just your main character and it will actually grow stronger because of the time invested. Naturally, if you want to have the strongest characters possible, that will leave little time for alts, but lack of focus on a single project always results in the reduced results. Olympic gymnasts don't also practice their swimming and tennis because then they wouldn't have the time to be Olympic level gymnasts.
Nonsense, it's clear you don't want to have more than one character. Playing alts is overly penalized these days. Too many past lives, too much grinding now, even with gear. There should be more BTA stuff, including some PLs. It's crazy these days.

And you said it yourself: needing years and years to finish a character is proof enough that it kills alts.
 

Vua

Mostly A Douche
The main point is, eventually, you run out of characters. I think I have 32 of the maximum 35 characters and all of them have 160 inventory space. If I get MD I will need another mule for level 13 gear as my 11-14 gear mule is too full for another expansion's worth of stuff. I also need to get a new mule since my level 1-4 mule is packed, so the new quest packs are going to make that one overflow too. I am dangerously close to not having enough mules even with 160 space each. I am very much not looking forward to running out of space again. I'll have to decide whether it is worth buying the much more expensive bank and personal inventory for the mules, or whether it is time to finally uninstall DDO forever so the inventory nightmare can finally be over.
I won't. I actually get rid of stuff eventually. I have more bank toons to clear out, but I've streamlined 3 into my active bank toons with one holding gear strictly for reincarnations. While I keep some items for possible future use on classes I'm not currently playing as, if I have no need for something it becomes sentient food. I have 2 completed sentient gems (had no spark of logic or dreams until this year) and 5 others with assorted amounts of XP (between 45k and 195k) I'm working on filling. I like to get them to a baseline number then go back to working on the highest XP jewel.
 

erethizon1

Well-known member
Nonsense, it's clear you don't want to have more than one character. Playing alts is overly penalized these days. Too many past lives, too much grinding now, even with gear. There should be more BTA stuff, including some PLs. It's crazy these days.

And you said it yourself: needing years and years to finish a character is proof enough that it kills alts.
It only kills alts if people expect a character that they have only played for 6 months to be as strong as one that they have played 10 years. Most MMO's do not give me a reason to play for more than about 6 months. At that point the game is over, and I usually uninstall the game and never return. I am not going to come back for an expansion just to have to leave a month later when the game is once again over. DDO has a real pro-main policy where time spent on your character actually matters.

I suppose they could have shared reaper experience and shared past lives, but then there isn't any reason to play an alt either. Once your main caps all other characters would also be capped and even people that like progressing alts would have no reason to play anymore. At least with the current system you have players with 3 characters with all past lives and 156 reaper experience meaning they were able to fully develop a character 3 times (rather than just once as would happen if everything is shared).

I get that people like having the ability to play different classes and races, but DDO actually shines in this area too. Whenever you are fed up with a class you just TR into a new one. Only Final Fantasy has ever given me so much ability to play all the classes on a single character.
 
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