A Glimpse Into Krynn

[Mary]

Consider, for a moment, the significance: Dragonlance, arguably the best D&D world setting, rivaled only by the High Fantasy of the Forgotten Realms. And Lord Soth, archetypal villain slain and resurrected in the mists of Ravenloft in a notorious retcon that people still talk about. We got it in the latest coffer dragon mount and all - but bro, the armor in the new patron coffer, a death knight's armor, it is hands down the best armor art Ive seen in this game to date. Hands down. I'm not glazing. Massive W. A work of art. The artist deserves a raise. Of course this is my opinion and people may disagree, but I see it as a signal of great things ahead. If this is the trajectory we are on, then the future of DDO is a bright and wondrous indeed. S-Tier. (PS - please more Dragonlance!)

 

[Tyran Thraxus]

Consider, for a moment, the significance: Dragonlance, arguably the best D&D world setting, rivaled only by the High Fantasy of the Forgotten Realms. And Lord Soth, archetypal villain slain and resurrected in the mists of Ravenloft in a notorious retcon that people still talk about. We got it in the latest coffer dragon mount and all - but bro, the armor in the new patron coffer, a death knight's armor, it is hands down the best armor art Ive seen in this game to date. Hands down. I'm not glazing. Massive W. A work of art. The artist deserves a raise. Of course this is my opinion and people may disagree, but I see it as a signal of great things ahead. If this is the trajectory we are on, then the future of DDO is a bright and wondrous indeed. S-Tier. (PS - please more Dragonlance!)

It's ok, but I would have preferred a more detailed style, like so:

They probably had limited time, so they smoothed it out. But I LOVE this detailed armor.

 

[Anurakh]

This reference to Lord Soth seems more geared toward Ravenloft than Dragonlance.

The Dragonlance rights are a complicated mess. I don't think SSG wants to mess with them.

 

[J1NG]

This reference to Lord Soth seems more geared toward Ravenloft than Dragonlance.

Very likely.

The Dragonlance rights are a complicated mess. I don't think SSG wants to mess with them.

Well, there was that... Er... I don't think I can say more on, er... let's just call it an "Educated Wish".

J1NG

 

[droid327]

Dragonlance, arguably the best D&D world setting

You misspelled Spelljammer

 

[Fisto Mk I]

You misspelled Spelljammer

And you - Dark Sun.

 

[Cheeps]

You misspelled Spelljammer

I thought ebberon was a rip off of spelljammer?

Never played spelljammer.

If my pen and paper group from the 90's wanted to play science fiction based games we would play the old star wars RPG, but when we played fantasy, it would be dnd: Dragonlance, Ravenloft or Darksun.

Then we discovered WHFRPG and realized the Brits do it better.

 

[droid327]

I thought ebberon was a rip off of spelljammer?

Never played spelljammer.

If my pen and paper group from the 90's wanted to play science fiction based games we would play the old star wars RPG, but when we played fantasy, it would be dnd: Dragonlance, Ravenloft or Darksun.

Then we discovered WHFRPG and realized the Brits do it better.

Eberron is a steampunk inspired setting. It's about 100-150 years ahead of spelljammer in terms of historical influence, it's Victorian

Spelljammer isnt sci fi either, its fantasy in space with ships. There is zero science involved.

 

[Cheeps]

Eberron is a steampunk inspired setting. It's about 100-150 years ahead of spelljammer in terms of historical influence, it's Victorian

Spelljammer isnt sci fi either, its fantasy in space with ships. There is zero science involved.

So spelljammer is high fantasy, ebberon is science fiction?

 

[droid327]

So spelljammer is high fantasy, ebberon is science fiction?

Both are high fantasy. Science fiction requires a soft to hard basis in actual science, and no D&D setting has that, everything is firmly in the realm of "a wizard did it"

DS is probably the closest to sci fi with its post apocalyptic dystopia, low magic setting, and psionics are slightly less fantastic than actual wizards

 

[Cheeps]

So robots, lasers, magic and spaceships are not science fiction.

I guess star wars is not science fiction then.

What does classify something as science fiction?

 

[droid327]

So robots, lasers, magic and spaceships are not science fiction.

I guess star wars is not science fiction then.

What does classify something as science fiction?

Yes, Star Wars is often classified as space fantasy, even by Lucas himself

I knew from the beginning that I was not doing science fiction. I was doing a space opera, a fantasy film, a mythological piece, a fairy tale. I really thought I needed to establish from the start that this was a completely made up world so that I could do anything I wanted."

What makes it science fiction is that its fictional, and scientific. It has to use science and a rational, natural approach to world building. So aliens instead of monsters or demons. Technobabble instead of magic. Things happening for consistent and empirical reasons, that are consistent with known science (or explained scientifically in universe when they aren't)

Jedi-free Star Wars is arguably harder sci fi, because everything there is tech and natural. Trek is harder sci fi as well because nothing is supernatural, it's all understood as science even when the audience doesn't fully understand it.

Also sci fi would be something like Frankenstein

Some old school authors preferred the term speculative fiction, because the point of being rooted in science was that it gives you a platform to speculate and explore ideas that haven't happened yet, within a known and predictable framework, and the speculation was really the point of the story.

 

[FaceDancer]

-Meh- Would rather have some more old-skool Greyhawk type content if possible.

 

[Epicsoul]

Agreed. It looks great.

 

[Cheeps]

Trek is harder sci fi as well because nothing is supernatural, it's all understood as science even when the audience doesn't fully understand it.

What about "Q"?

I'm glad you're here to tell me what I should consider science fiction and fantasy are, but it seems like you're saying science fiction doesn't exist and it confuses me.

Please, dictate more of how I should think, thank you!

 

[Hobgoblin]

What about "Q"?

I'm glad you're here to tell me what I should consider science fiction and fantasy are, but it seems like you're saying science fiction doesn't exist and it confuses me.

Please, dictate more of how I should think, thank you!

vote for fred for mayor of stormreach!

 

[droid327]

Please, dictate more of how I should think, thank you!

What does classify something as science fiction?

Ok then. Ask me a question and then excoriate me for answering

Bye

 

[Drunken.dx]

What about "Q"?

I'm glad you're here to tell me what I should consider science fiction and fantasy are, but it seems like you're saying science fiction doesn't exist and it confuses me.

Please, dictate more of how I should think, thank you!

You got clear answer that explain what "science fiction" is.

Eberron is not SF but magitek (google that term) at best.
you claiming it is because of warforged is hillarious.

By that same logic DDO is first person shooter because you can play in first person and by using bows/xbows you can play it as shooter.
or horror since there are undead in it

or song is metal just because electric guitar is used.

just because it has some common themes as certain genre it does not mean it is that genre.

 

[Cheeps]

You got clear answer that explain what "science fiction" is.

Eberron is not SF but magitek (google that term) at best.
you claiming it is because of warforged is hillarious.

By that same logic DDO is first person shooter because you can play in first person and by using bows/xbows you can play it as shooter.
or horror since there are undead in it

or song is metal just because electric guitar is used.

just because it has some common themes as certain genre it does not mean it is that genre.

"Magic's just science that we don't understand yet." -Arthur C. Clarke

Guess you know more than Arthur C. Clarke ever did.

Keep up the good work, and keep using "the google" for answers.

 

[Drunken.dx]

"Magic's just science that we don't understand yet." -Arthur C. Clarke

Guess you know more than Arthur C. Clarke ever did.

Keep up the good work, and keep using "the google" for answers.

LOL

I see you know better than LOTS of writers because you read one quote from mediocre writer

it's pointless to argue with someone who doesn't know but thinks they know because some mediocre writer said so.

here a little intro into something that's NOT SF but fantasy, but you'd call it SF.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GaslampFantasy