A Glimpse Into Krynn

Anurakh

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Well, about TV on Eberron, yes and no. They don't have it like our modern TV, with continuous broadcast programs and such, but as I mentioned in a previous post, in the best Phiarlan theaters there is a magical object that records the artists' performances and sends them to crystal balls (which may have the aesthetic of scrying mirrors more than the classic crystal ball) in the homes of the very rich.

But it's a system for the elite, not for everyone, so it's more like TV from the early 20th century, when it wasn't yet something for the masses, but a recent innovation for the wealthy who could afford it. Eberron is at that point taking its first steps in a lot of magitek.

It is also supposed to be having a much faster magical revolution than the industrial revolution we had, which can be of interest if a campaign lasts long enough in-game (or as a plot for the DM, since there is an intense "cold war" between different factions regarding obtaining new advances).
 
Phaedra

Phaedra

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The Nameless One said:
They just don’t have TV’s.

Airplanes == Airships

Maglev Trains == Lightning Rail Train

Cars/Trucks == Elemental Land Carts/Earthsleds

Phones == Speaking Stones

Guns == Runearms/wands

Artificial Intelligences == Warforged
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Bit of a stretch. Eberron is 1920s-1930s coded.
The Last War = "The Great War" (WWI)
Large, slow airships = dirigibles
Small, fast airship = bi/tri-planes
Lightning Rail = Trains/Subways/Elevated trails
Warforged = metaphor for PTSD (shell shock), the displaced and disenfranchised, with a veneer of Metropolis and Rostrum's Universal Robots
 
droid327

droid327

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Phaedra said:
Warforged = metaphor for PTSD (shell shock), the displaced and disenfranchised, with a veneer of Metropolis and Rostrum's Universal Robots
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And an unfortunate dash of Soviet Bolshevikism. Lord of Blades is basically robot Lenin lol. Mournlands are the USSR, except Red October happened accidentally by magic so they didn't have to get their hands dirty
 
Fisto Mk I

Fisto Mk I

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droid327 said:
And an unfortunate dash of Soviet Bolshevikism. Lord of Blades is basically robot Lenin lol. Mournlands are the USSR, except Red October happened accidentally by magic so they didn't have to get their hands dirty
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Lenin is a cyborg, not a robot, I insist! 8)
And, as a citizen of the USSR, I have never heard the term "Bolshevikism." :p
 
Tanis

Tanis

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Cheeps said:
What about "Q"?

I'm glad you're here to tell me what I should consider science fiction and fantasy are, but it seems like you're saying science fiction doesn't exist and it confuses me.

Please, dictate more of how I should think, thank you
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Tanis

Tanis

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droid327 said:
Eberron is a steampunk inspired setting. It's about 100-150 years ahead of spelljammer in terms of historical influence, it's Victorian

Spelljammer isnt sci fi either, its fantasy in space with ships. There is zero science involved.
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Eberron is Dungeon Punk
droid327 said:
Magitech can often just be steampunk with the actual steam replaced with magic.

In terms of aesthetic, in terms of Victorian-Edwardian inspiration for motifs, in terms of the kind of tech that's driven by whatever specific means (e.g. airships), I think Eberron is well within the bounds of steampunk. The abundance of goggles alone should qualify it as steampunk :D

That would differentiate it from other magitech settings where the magitech is far more futuristic, like giant robots and jet/rocket style flying machines

And I think airships definitely qualify as "technology", as they're described: they're "powered" by bound Air Elementals, but they're definitely mechanically driven past that, as we see in that one godawful E3BC quest.
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steampunk by definition is science fiction mixed with fantasy so by your claim Eberron is not that
 
Br4d

Br4d

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Fisto Mk I said:
And you - Dark Sun.
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Dark Sun is the best because of low magic that is somehow still desirable. Excellent balance overall.
 
Br4d

Br4d

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Uska said:
Keith Baker intended it to be Steampunk
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It has robots and repeating crossbows. That's a basis for Steampunk and if you play a Warforged Artificer or Rogue it can get very Steampunky very quickly.

However DDO is a Superhero game at this point. It is the successor to City of Heroes with poor mechanics and wide variety and of course iffy performance.
 
Anurakh

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Br4d said:
It has robots and repeating crossbows. That's a basis for Steampunk and if you play a Warforged Artificer or Rogue it can get very Steampunky very quickly.

However DDO is a Superhero game at this point. It is the successor to City of Heroes with poor mechanics and wide variety and of course iffy performance.
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Warforged aren't robots. Eberron doesn't have technology, only magic and magitech. Eberron is not steampunk. Some people says it is dungeonpunk, magicpunk or only magitek.

It's hard to categorize Eberron because it blends a mix of genres, but it doesn't fit into steampunk, something the setting's creator himself has repeatedly stated. Pulp and noir fit perfectly to describe Eberron. The rest... well, it's a mix that's hard to fit into a category.
 
Phaedra

Phaedra

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Br4d said:
It has robots and repeating crossbows. That's a basis for Steampunk and if you play a Warforged Artificer or Rogue it can get very Steampunky very quickly.

However DDO is a Superhero game at this point. It is the successor to City of Heroes with poor mechanics and wide variety and of course iffy performance.
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Homecoming is the successor to City of Heroes, (also it's literally City of Heroes).
 
Anurakh

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Uska said:
I’ve seen an interview where he says otherwise
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And I've read many of his articles saying no.

Also, I was previously linked with three articles that seemed to classify setting as a genre based on the title, and if you read the content, they said it didn't fit well there. So, forgive me if I trust what I've read more than your statement.
 
Bjond

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Uska said:
Keith Baker intended it to be Steampunk
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If so, he failed abysmally.

One of the qualifications of Steampunk is that the inhabitants need a mechanized "science holds all the answers!" viewpoint. That they fall far short of actualizing that view in so many silly, quaint, and charming Victorian ways is what makes that particular genre fun.

This is why Star Wars, for instance, is often called sci-fi despite it being a classic melodrama with space lasers. The characters act like it's science, so viewers indulge in suspension of disbelief and say "OK, but only because you say so!" Ignore jedi, they are not the wizards you are looking for.

Eberon is solidly in the magic camp. Zero steam and no punk.
 
Anurakh

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Bjond said:
If so, he failed abysmally.

One of the qualifications of Steampunk is that the inhabitants need a mechanized "science holds all the answers!" viewpoint. That they fall far short of actualizing that view in so many silly, quaint, and charming Victorian ways is what makes that particular genre fun.

This is why Star Wars, for instance, is often called sci-fi despite it being a classic melodrama with space lasers. The characters act like it's science, so viewers indulge in suspension of disbelief and say "OK, but only because you say so!" Ignore jedi, they are not the wizards you are looking for.

Eberon is solidly in the magic camp. Zero steam and no punk.
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True, but I've read many of his articles where he says that Eberron isn't steampunk (and I am a lover of his blog), so I wouldn't pay much attention to that statement. We'd have to look at the context and his exact words.
 
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