Adrenaline proc?

[Graceunderpressure]

Can you proc Adrenaline at same time as attack? Or does it need to be activated First, then next attack applies?

 

[Djoe]

activated first, then the next attack applies. I recommend applying it to your next-strongest attack, if you're two-handed fighting the go-to is to use adrenaline and then Boulder's Might for big numbers, but other melee types have other options.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Could l use this with DoD TWF ranger?

I guess it would just proc on the first attack, but if in mob with 500% strikethrough…..

 

[Djoe]

Could l use this with DoD TWF ranger?

I guess it would just proc on the first attack, but if in mob with 500% strikethrough…..

yeah you could stack it with the dance of death. It would only proc on the first hit, and there might be stronger attacks for you to use. Look specifically for ones that have + crit multiplier and high +% damage, but of course play around with it

 

[SpartanKiller13]

Adrenaline bonus effects only apply to one mob, regardless of strikethrough/cleave usage etc.

You can use it on any attack, so DoD would qualify, but you won't hit 3 mobs with the bonus damage/knockdown/etc.

Adrenaline + Boulder's Might does big damage to one target, and normal Boulder's Might damage to anyone else caught in the cleave.

 

[droid327]

DOD also applies the Strikethrough buff while active to all other attacks...so you could DoD, Adrenaline, and then hit a third added-crit-mult attack like Exposing Strike or Fast and Furious, and it would apply the 225% damage and basically-guaranteed crit with added mult and attack to up to 5 mobs in melee range...though I'm not sure which of those mods would apply to the multihit attack, and which are first-target-only

The +16 crit range on Adrenaline makes it really advantageous to use it with a skill with +crit mult. Thats why BM is such a popular pairing, but you cant use that if you're in TWF

 

[Lotoc]

DOD also applies the Strikethrough buff while active to all other attacks...so you could DoD, Adrenaline, and then hit a third added-crit-mult attack like Exposing Strike or Fast and Furious, and it would apply the 225% damage and basically-guaranteed crit with added mult to up to 5 mobs in melee range

The +16 crit range on Adrenaline makes it really advantageous to use it with a skill with +crit mult. Thats why BM is such a popular pairing, but you cant use that if you're in TWF

Adrenaline's modifier only applies to the first unit hit with melee, there's not really anything that gets around that.
Ranged works differently which is why with IPS hunt's end (and the old days of ranged adrenaline) used to modify the damage to all units hit and why they changed HE to an active attack when the aoe shots came out.

functionally single hit modifiers for melee go onto the hit
single hit modifiers for ranged go onto the shot itself

 

[jacko]

Just be aware it misfires. a. lot.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Adrenaline's modifier only applies to the first unit hit with melee, there's not really anything that gets around that.
Ranged works differently which is why with IPS hunt's end (and the old days of ranged adrenaline) used to modify the damage to all units hit and why they changed HE to an active attack when the aoe shots came out.

functionally single hit modifiers for melee go onto the hit
single hit modifiers for ranged go onto the shot itself

I though dmg only counts on first attack but Crit multiplier continues for 6 sec or something?

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Just be aware it misfires. a. lot.

I’ve heard that, but thought it was only in certain circumstances when used before certain attacks?

 

[SpartanKiller13]

DOD also applies the Strikethrough buff while active to all other attacks...so you could DoD, Adrenaline, and then hit a third added-crit-mult attack like Exposing Strike or Fast and Furious, and it would apply the 225% damage and basically-guaranteed crit with added mult and attack to up to 5 mobs in melee range...though I'm not sure which of those mods would apply to the multihit attack, and which are first-target-only

The +16 crit range on Adrenaline makes it really advantageous to use it with a skill with +crit mult. Thats why BM is such a popular pairing, but you cant use that if you're in TWF

Adrenaline's stuff is all first-hit-only. You can do all of the above, but will only nuke one of the targets.

Just be aware it misfires. a. lot.

If Adrenaline buff goes on, it'll be consumed on the next hit - if you miss three swings it'll go off on the fourth, for example.

Getting it active and then using a strong active attack can be finnicky though, and is often worth waiting a moment longer than you'd like between Adrenaline and the following active attack.

I though dmg only counts on first attack but Crit multiplier continues for 6 sec or something?

Neither Adrenaline nor DoD affect Crit Multiplier AFAIK. Adrenaline gives +16 Crit Threat range, but that only applies to the first mob hit after you use it.

Duration of Adrenaline buff is longer than the CD though, so you can prep Adrenaline, walk up to an enemy, hit them with it, and press it again to get two back-to-back procs, but regardless of application method you only get the bonus damage to one target.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Yeah not sure what l was thinking with that last post. Just too many things l’m looking at and mixed a cpl together there.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Been testing out Quick Cutter. Would actually be half decent if it would work properly.

Suffers from same bug as Adrenaline?

Seems to work just over half the time. When it recharges in the proper 6 sec timeframe, pretty much works. When it doesn’t, it takes about 25 sec to cool down and continues to do nothing until it get back on the proper 6 sec cool down timer

 

[SpartanKiller13]

Are you perhaps also using a different epic strike, like Consecration?

Otherwise try pressing the button after 6s even though it lists as being on CD, does that work? I've had action boosts show as going on CD and not using a charge if you hit them the frame they come off CD.

I've never seen anything like that for QC though.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Are you perhaps also using a different epic strike, like Consecration?

Otherwise try pressing the button after 6s even though it lists as being on CD, does that work? I've had action boosts show as going on CD and not using a charge if you hit them the frame they come off CD.

I've never seen anything like that for QC though.

Was just thinking about this and wondering if it might not be sharing another cool down.

I use consecration and haste boost.

Will check tonight

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Just to update this;

It was indeed consecration that was interfering with cool down.

Quick Cutter seems to be WAI

 

[Elminster]

QC > Adren imho… at least for now.

Not sure what everyone else’s thoughts on this are.

 

[Graceunderpressure]

QC > Adren imho… at least for now.

Not sure what everyone else’s thoughts on this are.

I’m sure it depends on the build, but certainly seems better on TWF

 

[Elminster]

I’m sure it depends on the build, but certainly seems better on TWF

Does a shield user hit with both shield and weapon when using QC?

 

[Graceunderpressure]

Does a shield user hit with both shield and weapon when using QC?

Good question

This is the first time l’ve used QC and decided to try because Adrenaline was meh on this build