Alchemist Inquisitive - seek for advice

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Hakoist

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Profile: 3rd life with wiz PL
Build Target: Alt staying at cap as DPS
Build idea: 3x levels of Alchemist for imbue, 2+ Arti for runearm/trapping, 2ftr PDK iconic save time leveling and feats
41 Inquis as core, 21 VC Imbue, 6BE for core2 5DS, 8Harper for stance, 4Ftr Haste boost (should be better as DL for 3 extra action boost)

Questions:
1) Should I actually put efforts for Transmutation DC for Flesh Freeze, Fresh to gold mass and Turn to Frog? Effort meaning the feats (Wiz PL, SF), epic points, Greater Heart seeker imbue for fort debuff, VC contamination for more fort debuff, Gear for ins3/qua2/sacred2/art3/prof DC, filigree for int/eye/otto instead of RP/DS/imbue. Trying to acheive viable DC for CC is a trap and better just go for more damage?
2) Defence and self healing - main alc gets low in HP, 15alc split gets only one lv6 spell which could be heal if not the fort debuff, other variant of inquis with more ranger/rogue levels might stand better. Or a 14Pal/4Art/2DLorFtr meta but I need to be int based...

Other comments appreciated :)

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DBZ

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You are brave the nerf senses are tingling lol

Was thinking new monk stuff with alch poison stuff and the new 1 handed poison dot raid weapon might be useful for a build

Monk alch shuri maybe

Since alchs can strip poison immunity and i don't think monks are getting that
 
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Hakoist

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DBZ said:
You are brave the nerf senses are tingling lol

Was thinking new monk stuff with alch poison stuff and the new 1 handed poison dot raid weapon might be useful for a build

Monk alch shuri maybe

Since alchs can strip poison immunity and i don't think monks are getting that
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jumping into a raid, the tank shout "Oh no melee? lol"
This is what we are having.
Maybe a nerf for inquis/repeater but lets not too anxious of it..

On your build idea:
  • Poisoned Darts now reads "Ki Activate: You spit poisoned darts in a cone before you. Nearby enemies are affected by between 4 and 8 stacks of Ninja Poison. (Magical Poison: Target takes 1d4 points of Poison damage, which scales with the higher of Melee and Ranged Power every 3 seconds for 15 seconds. If a target affected by this attack is normally immune to Poison, they become vulnerable to Poison while affected by Poisoned Darts. This ability can stack up to 20 times. On timer expiration, 4 stacks of Ninja Poison are removed at a time.) (Activation Cost: 15 Ki. Cooldown: 12 seconds)"

    So you have vulnerable and you dont need a splash?
 
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DBZ

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I don't have a foot in the nerf race it just is inevitable monks will probably be a ok if they do get nuked
 
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Hakoist

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Asterphen said:
I ran a build similar to this one:
I ran it for my alchemist build since I could get an inquisitive set easier than a full alchemist gear set (despite this was my first inquisitive). It is a little different. I felt it leveled great, but did not handle legendary as well. This was maybe 18 months ago, so times have changed a bit.
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the main change is rather have more imbue, its better to have more DS
Leveling would not be the focus so the question is like "should we attempt build hybrid ranged+CC"?
 
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Tanyajanfel

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im hear hoping to see some good ideas as well. would love to see your legendary feats, (they get cut off)

ran a similar (ish) build for hardcore, 18 alch, 2 arti. and also did a 16alch, 2arti, 2 rogue. but seeing a 15alch, 3ranger 2rogue alot. it was the most fun i had with ranged so far, with a lot of options, intel to everything, trapping, self heals, cc options while leveling (not going to talk about legendary yet...) could even switch over to caster for slayers.

worked a bit more on my 18,2 since some of the changes and it might be one of the highest sustained single target dps builds i have. (not sure if thats good or bad) so looking for any ways to improve it. havnt taken trick shot, but i am going to try and switch something out to fit that in.
i have been able to get frog to work a little bit in reaper baba's. so thats been fun. other that that, my dc's are about ?40? or so behind my pure alch? and i dont know how to make that up. i took quicken. empower and maximize while leveling and just kept them on the entire time. cast, and clean up with cross bow (now that im focused more of ranged dps, i might switch out those as well.)

also took eerie aim, as i have noticed dodge, and deflect more and more, especially in skellies. (looking for ways to get more bypass if anyone knows.)

currenty has decent single target dps, with some fun debuff options, decent survivability, evasion, trapping, alot of fun spells, including movement speed, attack speed, double shot (if you want to mix it up) on top of the action boots, so there is no reason to not spam them constantly. (which i still forget to do)

hopeing to see other peoples ideas and suggestions

while leveling, i found mutivile with shiradi to be alot of fun.

i just recently spent alot of time getting more imbue, but now looking like i should have been aiming for more Ranged power. trying to find that balance

i know past lives would make up for alot of this builds issues, hp, dc's, more power in general. but still want to make the most of this alt.

gear tetris might be the most stressful part of this game for me, so not sure if im ready to try and fit all this needs in. it was hard enough just getting ranged damage, imbue, survivablity in...
 
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Hakoist

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Tanyajanfel said:
im hear hoping to see some good ideas as well. would love to see your legendary feats, (they get cut off)
havnt taken trick shot, but i am going to try and switch something out to fit that in.
also took eerie aim, as i have noticed dodge, and deflect more and more, especially in skellies. (looking for ways to get more bypass if anyone knows.)
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Right now i am putting L33 combat archery and L34 Titan Blood, eerie aim is definitely good cause maybe trick shot is too annoying
Personally I didnt try that too, but I guess the top player arent giving up the 40RP.
Tanyajanfel said:
ran a similar (ish) build for hardcore, 18 alch, 2 arti. and also did a 16alch, 2arti, 2 rogue. but seeing a 15alch, 3ranger 2rogue alot. it was the most fun i had with ranged so far, with a lot of options, intel to everything, trapping, self heals, cc options while leveling (not going to talk about legendary yet...) could even switch over to caster for slayers.

worked a bit more on my 18,2 since some of the changes and it might be one of the highest sustained single target dps builds i have. (not sure if thats good or bad) so looking for any ways to improve it. havnt taken trick shot, but i am going to try and switch something out to fit that in.
i have been able to get frog to work a little bit in reaper baba's. so thats been fun. other that that, my dc's are about ?40? or so behind my pure alch? and i dont know how to make that up. i took quicken. empower and maximize while leveling and just kept them on the entire time. cast, and clean up with cross bow (now that im focused more of ranged dps, i might switch out those as well.)
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I mean the five levels could be a lot personal choice. 18alc/2art could be 41inqus31VC8Harper, 15alc/2art+3whatever might put the 10points in something else.

Alc inquisitive could have a lot of imbue like the post by unbongwah quoted above:

In terms of maxing out Imbue dice, drow Alchemist 15 / ranger 3 / rogue 2 can have:
  • 41 Inquisitive for +7 Imbue dice (plus capstone)
  • 21 Vile Chemist for +6 dice (plus Wave of Poison SLA for poison-immunity stripping)
  • 12 Arcane Archer for +4 dice
  • 11 drow for +1 dice
  • 8 Assassin for +3 dice
93 APs for +21 Imbue Dice. Obviously a first-lifer has to water that down.

… and we don’t have the racial points, and need 8 harper for stance, so it could be
15alc3art2rog
41/21/8harper/8Ass+2??
7+6+3 from heroic enhancement
Gear wise it’s 3artifact and 1 hunt augment
Destiny sharidi3
Feat wise chaos2 Arborea1
2 dice short from 28 so maybe a 2piece filigree or take a +3dice legendary feat.
GEW if you choose heal as the L6 spell.

Gear wise my repeater artificer is using
Tinkerer Google/Bracer
Vecna 3 piece with 3imbue
Vecna 5 piece repeater/runearm/belt/boot/necklace
Dino ring artifact
Some filler

Hopefully I would get some postMD gear this and there.
 
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