All TR hearts should be available from heart seeds

[Ungermax]

I think in the very least, +1 Hearts should be available for tokens. Because without a +1 Heart most people won't run an Iconic build aside from for past lives. The level chosen for you is an incredible barrier which should be much easier to bypass. I already paid/spent points on the Iconic, if I want to play the build I want then I have to pay/spend points again EVERY TIME.

 

[QuantumFX]

Yes to more ways to spend heart seeds/comms!

 

[Bobbryan2]

Heart seeds did not exist at that time. Just commendations of valor. It would have taken 100+ level 20 quests to farm enough commendations of valor. The compromise was to leave the tokens as they were.

Ironic, of course, because had the system been implemented that the devs wanted, we'd all be sitting on more hearts of wood than new knew what to do with.
But who wants to give them that much rope...
I still remember balking at the price of a flawless dragonshard was when they implemented crafting. I asked them what they were smoking at the time. 1,000,000 siberys fragments? What in the world.
Did they ever make that more functional? No... 15 years later, and I don't think I've gotten enough fragments for a dragonshard fragment... it would have taken 100 bank spaces to hold the 10,000 fragment stacks. But everyone on the forums kept telling me that it would scale and I was freaking out about nothing.
Remember... back then you had to wait for 10 seconds at the stone of change... so you would also have been converting to dragonshards for HOURS of literal time.

 

[Bobbryan2]

I think in the very least, +1 Hearts should be available for tokens. Because without a +1 Heart most people won't run an Iconic build aside from for past lives. The level chosen for you is an incredible barrier which should be much easier to bypass. I already paid/spent points on the Iconic, if I want to play the build I want then I have to pay/spend points again EVERY TIME.

A way to easily grind a +1 respec would be great.

 

[Ethril]

Everytime I get to 20 I am like 'what, I have to do more grinding so I can TR for my +1 to something'. Nine times out of 10 I simply log off of DDO and do something else out of furstration. I really wish as a VIP, they gave us a free heart of wood monthly. I would renew my VIP for an extend time frame!

If they feel they need to make us grind, isn't the time spent emptying the reincarnation cache enough of a grind?

 

[Dude]

If they feel they need to make us grind, isn't the time spent emptying the reincarnation cache enough of a grind?

Is taking a few items out every time you gain a level really grinding?

 

[Anurakh]

If they feel they need to make us grind, isn't the time spent emptying the reincarnation cache enough of a grind?

There are over 200 PLs in the game. Plus Reaper XP. Plus Raid Loot. Plus Quest Loot. Plus Rare Loot. Plus mythic, curse, and reaper loot. How much more grind do they want in the game? Every new player I've met in the last few years has run away as soon as they see what's coming.

 

[Anurakh]

Is taking a few items out every time you gain a level really grinding?

But after removing those items per level, I still have hundreds of items in the cache xD.

 

[Bobbryan2]

Is taking a few items out every time you gain a level really grinding?

I dunno... is 200 Past Lives a grind if you just break it up into 1 past life a month?

 

[Ethril]

Is taking a few items out every time you gain a level really grinding?

It's better now that they've sped it up, but, the hour it used to take was tedious. I leave a lot of the items in my cache until I'm ready to reincarnate.

 

[Ethril]

There are over 200 PLs in the game. Plus Reaper XP. Plus Raid Loot. Plus Quest Loot. Plus Rare Loot. Plus mythic, curse, and reaper loot. How much more grind do they want in the game? Every new player I've met in the last few years has run away as soon as they see what's coming.

Yep, that was my point.

 

[Dude]

It's better now that they've sped it up, but, the hour it used to take was tedious.

That must be from a long time ago. I've been playing for about four years and never found it to be all that taxing.

 

[Ethril]

But after removing those items per level, I still have hundreds of items in the cache xD.

Same

 

[Bobbryan2]

That must be from a long time ago. I've been playing for about four years and never found it to be all that taxing.

It depends on your ping, and how many items you have. If you have 100 items or less, it's extremely fast to pull it out. If you have 400+, every item takes its own loading cycle time.
This was why I just decided to get rid of my TR cache and run super lean... I couldn't stand the amount of time emptying it every life. It was super super unfun.

 

[Anurakh]

Yep, that was my point.

I know, but it's worth emphasizing, in case any devs read this thread.

This grinding is getting out of hand

 

[Ethril]

It depends on your ping, and how many items you have. If you have 100 items or less, it's extremely fast to pull it out. If you have 400+, every item takes its own loading cycle time.
This was why I just decided to get rid of my TR cache and run super lean... I couldn't stand the amount of time emptying it every life. It was super super unfun.

Besides the improvements SSG made to the loading time (which is still slow with many items), you can filter by type or level and it is quicker. But then that adds a bit of time to keep changing the filter.

 

[Bobbryan2]

Besides the improvements SSG made to the loading time (which is still slow with many items), you can filter by type or level and it is quicker. But then that adds a bit of time to keep changing the filter.

When their level filters are even working. It randomly loses ~20 items' information every TR. And even as lean as I'm running... I don't like pulling all of those items into my inventory to reset their levels again. I just drag everything from my TR cache to character bank as the first thing I do every life.
So... the filters are good. They're not as good as when they broke them horribly, but better than they were after they broke them horribly.

 

[Anurakh]

Token grind, clearing TR caches, and rare loot grind are definitely those extremely boring types of grinds that hurt the game instead of providing longevity.

 

[Anurakh]

I think in the very least, +1 Hearts should be available for tokens. Because without a +1 Heart most people won't run an Iconic build aside from for past lives. The level chosen for you is an incredible barrier which should be much easier to bypass. I already paid/spent points on the Iconic, if I want to play the build I want then I have to pay/spend points again EVERY TIME.

I agree!

 

[Spoon of Khyber]

I think in the very least, +1 Hearts should be available for tokens. Because without a +1 Heart most people won't run an Iconic build aside from for past lives. The level chosen for you is an incredible barrier which should be much easier to bypass. I already paid/spent points on the Iconic, if I want to play the build I want then I have to pay/spend points again EVERY TIME.

Also agree. They could add +1 hearts, blood and true hearts to the heart seed/comm menu. No real work required AND they could leave Tokens of the Twelve untouched. Everyone wins.