Alternative forms of "Profane well rounded"

Ratatoskr_Mikew

Well-known member
Okay so, profane well-rounded DOES NOT stack with Essence of the litany of the dead or Lunar stat augments........

So I propose Profane well rounded to be also available as a +4 profane bonus but only to intelligence+dexterity+Constitution or Strength+Wisdom+Constituion variants.
 
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rabidfox

The People's Champion
There's already +4 profane to individual stats; I don't think they're going to devalue those by making multiple stat variations for the same value.
 

Ratatoskr_Mikew

Well-known member
There's already +4 profane to individual stats; I don't think they're going to devalue those by making multiple stat variations for the same value.
Profane well rounded is now available at +3 to all stats, it does not stack with the +4 lunar augments, so plus +4 to half the stats is reasonable and would give less overall power than +3 to all stats.

It would really depend on how you build, and frankly such an effect should only be placed on raid helms and give you the option of which variation you sought via crafting it through a nearly finished type system. This would improve the appeal for a helm to enchant with that reaper bonus through reaper crafting.

Like this:

Unnamed Raid Helm (HELM)
Nearly Complete: Specialized well rounded +4 (INT+DEX+CON, STR+CHAR+WIS, CHA+DEX+WIS, WIS+CON+CHA, or CHA+INT+CON)
Nearly Complete: Dual absorption (Fire+Electric, Poison+Evil, Cold+Acid, Curse+Chaos, Force+Rust, or Light+Good)
Fortification +166%
Sheltering +40
Empty Green Augment slot
Empty Colorless Augment Slot
Sun Augment Slot

Also on my agenda of advocacy: Update rust as a threat, make it terrifying, give us Tetanus infections in game!
 

Wisefreelancer

Well-known member
+4 to Int/Dex/Con is quite a lot better than to +3 to all for many builds. Plenty of builds can function on Int and Con alone. The same would be true for any combo with Wis/Con or Cha/Con or Str/Con. They aren't going to do it, and I also don't think they should.

Agree, no problem here needing fixing.

Now, dual absorption options I can absolutely get behind. There's too many different elements and they are all situational depending on which quest you're in to make anything beyond the large regular bonuses worth slotting in most cases. There are items in the new pack with insightful acid absorb - okay nice, but where am I supposed to find slots for the fire, electric, cold, force, evil, light, etc options as well???
 

Lazuli

Well-known member
The augment I mentioned is not even profane bonus.

Essence of the Epic Litany of the Dead is listed as Litany of the Dead Ability Bonus +2, not profane!​

It's profane, it always has been, as in the item from which it comes.

I think this trend of dividing everything into individual stats is bad. It makes gear a nightmare. We don't need bonuses to individual saves when resistance exists, the same goes for sheltering. It's ridiculous to give bonuses to each spell element separately, each spell school separately, even on the artifact bonus (lol). I don't like that they separated the stats on the artifact bonus either, or separated artifact/profane attack and damage, etc. But this is different from what you're saying. The augment has always been a profane bonus. It makes sense that it doesn't stack. And I hope it never does. We need to contract channels, not expand them even more.
 

Lazuli

Well-known member
There's already +4 profane to individual stats; I don't think they're going to devalue those by making multiple stat variations for the same value.
I've never liked this separation, though. It just makes gearing even more complicated, as if it weren't complicated enough already.

But of all the stat separations that should be consolidated, this is the one that worries me the least. There are much worse.
 

Ignition

Well-known member
There's already +4 profane to individual stats; I don't think they're going to devalue those by making multiple stat variations for the same value.
and those should honestly be +4 profane to all stats and the artifact ones be +4 to all stats too
 

droid327

Hardcore casual soloist
Int-Dex-Con and Str-Wis-Con dont even make sense as a pairing. I can see maybe Int-Cha-Wis since you'd normally only focus on 1 of those per char, but it feels more like you just play a Rogue and a Monk or something and want a new item custom made for your specific builds.
 
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