Any advices for 7500 favor push for a returning rookie player?

[The Narc2]

In the Flesh is honestly not as bad anymore (as long as you have a Deathblock item), unless you try to do the ghost beholder optional. It's now in the 'older quests' category, which have not kept up with the power creep. I can think of worse quests to permadeath at that level.

Lol oh really, i did mention we run these at level and only on elite or higher, so tell me what first life build your going to use to make sure that in the flesh isnt going to be a big issue.

Also would love to hear what quest at that level you think is more dangerous to a permadeather that doesnt use ship buffs, hirelings or twinked gear.

Cant wait to be enlightened.

 

[Matuse]

Lol oh really, i did mention we run these at level and only on elite or higher, so tell me what first life build your going to use to make sure that in the flesh isnt going to be a big issue.

Also would love to hear what quest at that level you think is more dangerous to a permadeather that doesnt use ship buffs, hirelings or twinked gear.

Cant wait to be enlightened.

Ranged robot, any KOTC paladin. Being immune to negative levels and not severely crippled by antimagic. It's only the beholders during the end fight that are -really- dangerous.

Deadliest quest for any permadeath character is Terminal Delirium. The bedroom fight with the many many zappy eyeballs and charisma draining mindflayers is maybe the most dangerous fight in the entire game.

 

[waysider]

I want to unlock 3000 favor level 7 chracter creation but while I am at it I want to push to 7,5k. I plan doing it on a blightcaster first live chracter without leveling up untill I beat all 2 level lower quests on elite. I only have VIP rn. Would you give me advice?

Should I wait untill other discounts or should I purchase some stuff with 30% discount?

Cool thing to do, but recognize this is a fun long term project. It'll take a while.

Feywild was on sale this summer quite cheaply, there will probably be Black Friday sales.

Cannith challenges are a good thing to do right after an ER; people will join LFMs, but less so if it's a no mats/no xp run.

 

[The Narc2]

Ranged robot, any KOTC paladin. Being immune to negative levels and not severely crippled by antimagic. It's only the beholders during the end fight that are -really- dangerous.

Deadliest quest for any permadeath character is Terminal Delirium. The bedroom fight with the many many zappy eyeballs and charisma draining mindflayers is maybe the most dangerous fight in the entire game.

I think you are forgetting the potential of being charisma drained and being helpless during the end fight, thats the only reason its scary, the beholders are not a big deal if you can act nor is the boss, but once you are debilitated by charisma damage all that changes, most other quests with this arent so bad because you can play the long game but in the flesh is particularly dangerous to do that.

If you read my post i already mentioned terminal delirium as a no go.

I am still interested in the poster who said in the flesh was easy now with power creep as to what other quest at that level would be more of a challenge.

 

[Matuse]

I think you are forgetting the potential of being charisma drained and being helpless during the end fight, thats the only reason its scary, the beholders are not a big deal if you can act nor is the boss, but once you are debilitated by charisma damage all that changes, most other quests with this arent so bad because you can play the long game but in the flesh is particularly dangerous to do that.

If you read my post i already mentioned terminal delirium as a no go.

I am still interested in the poster who said in the flesh was easy now with power creep as to what other quest at that level would be more of a challenge.

I do In The Flesh every life, it's part of my leveling routine. I'm not first life, but the end fight is just not difficult. Bring a stack of lesser restore potions and prioritize the mindflayers if the charisma damage is that threatening.

 

[The Narc2]

I do In The Flesh every life, it's part of my leveling routine. I'm not first life, but the end fight is just not difficult. Bring a stack of lesser restore potions and prioritize the mindflayers if the charisma damage is that threatening.

Got it, your not first life.

 

[Redgob]

I do In The Flesh every life, it's part of my leveling routine. I'm not first life, but the end fight is just not difficult. Bring a stack of lesser restore potions and prioritize the mindflayers if the charisma damage is that threatening.

Yup. Personally as a solo first lifer with no twinks I'd definitely be more wary of other quests like Toxic Treatment (too much random force damage in the end fight) or even Tower of Frost (even after nerfs to champs, a bad roll on living disintegrate might be fatal). In the Flesh is not that bad with some preparation and I have done it solo on HC in the past.

 

[The Narc2]

Yup. Personally as a solo first lifer with no twinks I'd definitely be more wary of other quests like Toxic Treatment (too much random force damage in the end fight) or even Tower of Frost (even after nerfs to champs, a bad roll on living disintegrate might be fatal). In the Flesh is not that bad with some preparation and I have done it solo on HC in the past.

Lol tower of frost is a joke, applying spell absorption items during living spells and take one at a tine makes it elementary.

Although we are very limited during EXTREME Permadeath play, during hardcore i am not limited from picking up a beholder trinket or two from the ddo store, with those toxic is also a joke just dont overdo the damage on the main boss and kill the extras as they spawn, glitterdust also helps alot. This game is easy to control as long as you can keep moving and functioning, having your charisma drained to zero changes that, no potion is going to help you when you are at zero.

I guess it is also easier to say in the flesh is easier if you have a higher CHR via tomes and ship buffs and past lives(might give you more time to use resources like potions), but we dont use those for the sole purpose of making the game challenging in the first place.

 

[DBZ]

Last couple times i tried in the flesh it just bugged stopped bothering same with fear factor

 

[Redgob]

Lol tower of frost is a joke, applying spell absorption items during living spells and take one at a tine makes it elementary.

Although we are very limited during EXTREME Permadeath play, during hardcore i am not limited from picking up a beholder trinket or two from the ddo store, with those toxic is also a joke just dont overdo the damage on the main boss and kill the extras as they spawn, glitterdust also helps alot. This game is easy to control as long as you can keep moving and functioning, having your charisma drained to zero changes that, no potion is going to help you when you are at zero.

I guess it is also easier to say in the flesh is easier if you have a higher CHR via tomes and ship buffs and past lives(might give you more time to use resources like potions), but we dont use those for the sole purpose of making the game challenging in the first place.

Just like the quests you mentioned are a joke for you ("untwinked first lifer" with ddo store stuff? riiight) In the Flesh is a joke for others. It's an old quest. With old damage values. Cha damage? A couple of potions and scrolls can take care of that. Or Spell Absorption items on that untwinked first lifer. /shrug

 

[The Narc2]

Just like the quests you mentioned are a joke for you ("untwinked first lifer" with ddo store stuff? riiight) In the Flesh is a joke for others. It's an old quest. With old damage values. Cha damage? A couple of potions and scrolls can take care of that. Or Spell Absorption items on that untwinked first lifer. /shrug

Nah i dont even need the beholder trinkets for toxic treatment and cant use them in non HC EXTREME MV PElermadeath, but of course I would just run toxic treatment in legendary, as legendary is much easier at level because of the available abilities.

It sounds like your past life toon finds in the flesh very easy and you run it every life that you TR through, if death wasnt a concern i would not hesitate to go out at it. I personally dont run in the flesh because of the permadeath factor, otherwise its likely it could be run dozens of times without death just not going to risk the one time when all goes bad and lose my toon over it.

It seems to me that you are confused on the effects of scrolls and potions as you cannot use either when your Charisma is zero. Of course you could be running with a high charisma and have plenty of flexibility on when to fix your charisma loss, past life toons have that bloated safety cushion with that power creep. The OP does not have that and again I say to the OP be wary of in the flesh. In the flesh can be a long quest for a newer player and once invested you could easily be sucked into spending lots of points in the store on rez cakes in this one and it is a suckers bet, those that are taking an opposing stance to me are simply putting you in a bad situation where you will be spending money to keep the lights on for themby running this quest. Dont do it OP keep your money and let them keep paying for xp pots, past lives boxes, and chest rerolls.

 

[Matuse]

Got it, your not first life.

Meaningless. Power creep matters for more for old content like that. It used to be very difficult...when the level cap was 20. That is 13 years ago.

The quest isn't hard. I ran it on Hardcore league. First life, no full item sets, not even a 32 point build.

 

[TrappedSoulstone]

Always curious, if you did the bare minimum, as in TR’d and got to 20 then did say 2 Epic Lives, what would you reasonably expect your favor count to be?

Depending on xp boosts/power leveling and saga id say getting to 20 gives me around 2000 favor give or take. probably would be close to 2500 without xp potions.

in the flesh much more doable with current power levels. It still can be tricky when solo or even with poor party. there is definitely higher chance to die there.

play at cap and do raids etc and you will get tomes dropping. You will also get threads, some augments, some crafting mats and raid runes so lots of useful stuff

agree, except for tomes. Bet, if at all, you will get upgrade junk that you cant use, your luck may vary. still good idea to have someone at cap if you tired of TRing

 

[Dude]

I want to unlock 3000 favor level 7 chracter creation but while I am at it I want to push to 7,5k. I plan doing it on a blightcaster first live chracter without leveling up untill I beat all 2 level lower quests on elite. I only have VIP rn. Would you give me advice?

Should I wait untill other discounts or should I purchase some stuff with 30% discount?

Good luck and great adventuring!

I'm doing something similar. https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/path-to-max-favor.20862/

So far I'm up to 4,573 favor and have completed all of the quests through level 13, except from Lamordia. I'll probably do those last since they are all new quests. I'm having fun.

 

[Qrvar]

I am still interested in the poster who said in the flesh was easy now with power creep as to what other quest at that level would be more of a challenge.

I had a detailed argument and all, but given the attitude and tone you've taken from your first post here, I'm just not gonna bother responding. Besides, multiple people have already provided example and attested to completing the quest in a variety of setups, just like myself.

P.S. Hint: If you can bring a pale lav or DDO store items for Tower of Frost, I'm sure you can handle getting a +CHA item / augment and a stack of restore pots for In the Flesh. Though I didn't even need all that to complete it on a glorified bank toon.

 

[The Narc2]

I had a detailed argument and all, but given the attitude and tone you've taken from your first post here, I'm just not gonna bother responding. Besides, multiple people have already provided example and attested to completing the quest in a variety of setups, just like myself.

P.S. Hint: If you can bring a pale lav or DDO store items for Tower of Frost, I'm sure you can handle getting a +CHA item / augment and a stack of restore pots for In the Flesh. Though I didn't even need all that to complete it on a glorified bank toon.

Lol says the guy that struggles with legendary R1, I dont think I have ever died in a legendary R1 quest and that includes playing permadeath with no store bought items, untwinked gear, no ship buffs and no hirelings, legendary R1 is a walk in the park.

If the tone of elite players offends you, maybe you should think about how you interpret such posts and learn how to be more of a sponge and absorb some good advice. Otherwise you are just projected yourself in your responses .

 

[TrappedSoulstone]

Still beating that horse? new 15s in Meridia pretty hard just on a different aspect - harder mobs but more predictable and less of a jinx type. For purpose of this goal it even would be beneficial to run overlevel quests, at least when solo.