Astral Shards not to transfer to 64bit worlds!

Sarandra

Well-known member
Yeah.

That's what happened with my guild on G-land. We could stay, on a server where most people we knew had left, or go to Orien and buy a new ship, leave AS/pets/mounts, and get a bugged MM. Oh, the joy of choices.
Personally, I think the MM problem has an easy fix. Like with a clogged pipe, it just takes a bit of effort to unclog it.

Edit: To be explicit, I think they have never bothered to really dig into the problem.
 

Jhml

Well-known member
Claimed 6 shards and 3 pets today; I guess it's been a while since I looked at my monster manuals since I transferred to Argo. I really hope they get the MM situation fixed by the time you move to the 64-bit worlds.

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I didn't even know you had to click the manuals for the rewards. Thanks for the info!
 

vik

Well-known member
You are not being forced to transfer. You can stay where you are and keep your AS with you.
That is my plan. However, let's look ahead: what happens when they want to shut off the 32 bit servers? Guess I'm done with the game at that point if I don't want to get ripped off. You would think they would put in the effort to keep this transition painless instead of losing more of their customers.
 

Aaumini

Well-known member
For Astral shards - it shouldn't really be that hard. Here is an idea.

Create 5 vouchers that cost 1, 10, 100, 1000 and 10000 shards respectively. Make the vouchers redeemable for the same amount of shards. If you must, make them redeemable on 64 bit servers only.
 

Jasparius

Well-known member
All the players I play in a group with would go to US server, me - to EU. So, what is the big difference between transfer and stay ? We are going to be separated either way !
Or all of us can choose to stay. I personally see no reason to transfer anyway.


You don't know how many players are going to transfer. 🙄
DDO has long since become a solo game. 😏 Don't need to have that many players on-line compared how it was something like 10 years ago.

2 years from now you think they will be supporting 32bit servers in Boston and 64bit servers in Las Vegas and ??Amsterdam??
 

Pineapple

Well-known member
I agree. The notion that shards cant be transfered because of duping is flawed to begin with. Whatever the negative consequences of the duping is we are already living with it, so who cares if it is transfered to a the new servers. And if it is such a big problem it should be handled on the live servers already.
Just to add an example of the consequences for ssg of not dealing with this duping, at the moment I never buy shards for points.

I spend probably more than I like to admit on every convenience there is (side note: add wish for iconic memories plz) but there is no point spending on shards because it's so much easier to just put something on the Argo ASAH and get a few thousand shards there.

If this 'problem' transfers to the new server then there is simply also no point to ever buying shards for points there either.
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Just to add an example of the consequences for ssg of not dealing with this duping, at the moment I never buy shards for points.

I spend probably more than I like to admit on every convenience there is (side note: add wish for iconic memories plz) but there is no point spending on shards because it's so much easier to just put something on the Argo ASAH and get a few thousand shards there.

If this 'problem' transfers to the new server then there is simply also no point to ever buying shards for points there either.
You don't buy Astral Shards, but many other people do. And if there's one thing that can be harmful to the company, it's when its customers lose faith that what they buy won't be stolen. That can really hurt SSG. Because then many people will refuse to buy anything else from them.
 

IanMoon8

Well-known member
That can really hurt SSG. Because then many people will refuse to buy anything else from them.
This is the main concern.

Right behind that is how much worse it will fracture the playerbase. I know I'm not going to leave my shards, but having my server be gutted around me will make the game even less playable.
 

The Narc2

Well-known member
You don't buy Astral Shards, but many other people do. And if there's one thing that can be harmful to the company, it's when its customers lose faith that what they buy won't be stolen. That can really hurt SSG. Because then many people will refuse to buy anything else from them.
They have already done that too many times to count, and there are already many players that wont buy anything else.

If they truly wanted to fix things they would reverse all their poor decisions in the past (things they sold as something only to change it many years afterwards) and earn back the patronage of their clientelle.

But we all know it wont happen, enough said.
 

Cordovan

Community Manager
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
 

Wizard

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
So, can SSG please figure out a way to transfer shards indirectly? For ex. make a vendor to "spend down" our shards for tokens? And on the new servers another vendor that redeems those tokens for AS?
 

Sylvado

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
The concern is in the difference in the statements. It has been stated you are working on guilds, companions, shared banks, but for Shards it is that hasn't been decided yet?
 

Cildar

Well-known member
I transferred a while back to get a more populous server. I'll gladly spend down my shards, relevel my guild reaquire mounts and pets.... just don't **** with my shared bank. I have it max expanded but that would be expensive and not fun.
 

seph1roth5

Well-known member
Makes no sense to me that these things don't transfer. I'm guessing because transferring takes between "instant" and "contact CS and wait a month" amount of time, they're afraid people will set up a transfer with say, 1k shards, then buy stuff while it's transferring, and then when their character arrives they have 1k shards.

This just shows me that they realize how important shards are, and they ARE the $$ currency in game so...duh? They should just make new store items that are 1 shard each and stack up to 50k or something. Then, on new servers make an npc that lets you trade those in for astral shards.
 

IanMoon8

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
In the future, could you maybe refrain from making idle speculations about massive hot-button issues on a Friday afternoon?
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
Transfers to 64-bit servers are a special occasion. It's something promoted by you, the company. You should transfer everything. It's only fair. If you don't, many of your customers will lose faith in you.

It's fine that transfers between 64-bit servers follow the usual rules. But this is a transfer promoted by you, and it's in your best interest. Transfer everything.
 

Xgya

Well-known member
I transferred a while back to get a more populous server. I'll gladly spend down my shards, relevel my guild reaquire mounts and pets.... just don't **** with my shared bank. I have it max expanded but that would be expensive and not fun.
So long as you understand shared banks don't follow characters during server transfers, nobody's going to mess with it.
(after all, the bank has to be there with the things you put in for the characters you don't transfer)
 
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