Astral Shards not to transfer to 64bit worlds!

GrindFlayer

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
You said many things in that stream. While it's totally ok to speculate, in my opinion, it's statements like "what the news there would be is, well, you got to spend down your shards" where it starts to sound very much like a suggestion instead.
I hope no-one already started doing what you said there, or (because Internet remembers), doesn't follow someone's link to that statement closer to the transfers and start wasting AS in fear of losing them before anything has been confirmed.

Overall, this to me is the most no-brainer thing of all no-brainer things. Of course Premium Currency should travel through transfers, no matter what kind of transfers they are. I personally haven't transferred other than HC server characters, and coming from LotRO, I thought the AS staying on the original server was just a HC league thing, because it's kinda like an event. I was very surprised to find out via this discussion that the reality is actually beyond the most no-brainer thing ever.

And if the "it's so hard, man, you don't have any idea how hard it is technically" excuse is going to be used, I would be running out of words.
 

Mornyngstar

Well-known member
Fridays at Four 04/18/2025 @ 20:20

Cordovan "Astral Shards I do not believe will transfer, I mean they could if we have a mechanism by which we could do that but Astral Shards have always been and probably will continue to be an individual server thing, so what the news there will be is you have until x date to spend down your shards and that's how we'll do that."

For those who didn't listen carefully!

Both Severlin and Tolero in the Fridays at Four mentioned it was a mechanism they were working on.
 

Elminster

Sage of Shadowdale
The BIG question is: What can you buy off the Shard X-change that will hold value and can be resold when you move to the new 64-bit server ?
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vik

Well-known member
There are a few problems here no one is addressing with the "spend down" idea.
  1. 30% cut. So I'm already losing 30% of what I paid for.
  2. The economy on the new server. Everyone seems to think that cards of curse cleansing will be bought like they are currently. What if no one buys shards? Then everyone will be trying to sell stuff for dirt cheap to get currency again.
Does this sound like a good deal to you?
 

Felsyn

Pretty Normal Weird Guy
Cordo also said mm may not transfer and we know others have said that will for sure be part of 64 bit transfers.

I take it all as a rumor, just like their VIP year 2 track, until it see it live AND how it actually works in practice
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
Well, what a rumor for the community manager to spread.

How do they expect people to have faith in them if they're not even sure if they'll transfer something people pay money for?

They should make this clear, because their decision will impact many players whether or not they spend money on the game.
 

jacko

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
Respectfully, you shouldn't have said anything at all on this. It's just extremely unhelpful speculation.

The above doesn't change my own position one iota, fwiw. I'm not moving unless this and other valuables are transferred. I'll leave the game for good before that happens.

There are several proposed solutions to readily address this. There is no excuse whatsoever to do nothing about it. Confirmation SSG will, would help allay the unhelpful speculation and, hopefully, the consequent unnecessary angst caused.
 

IanMoon8

Well-known member
Respectfully, you shouldn't have said anything at all on this. It's just extremely unhelpful speculation.
Agreed. SSG staff need to understand: everything that comes out of your mouth is an official communication. Don't like being raked over the coals? Stop doing live streams and start communicating like grown ups.

The above doesn't change my own position one iota, fwiw. I'm not moving unless this and other valuables are transferred. I'll leave the game for good before that happens.
Agreed. I think more players feel the same. The people who keep saying they don't care are the ones not participating in the shard economy.
 

danzig138

Well-known member
Now, if I remember correctly they will keep 32 bit up, i'm just not sure how long.
Something that would help these threads is if people would absolutely, completely STOP repeating things they think they might remember correctly. If you don't know, don't say it. It makes things worse.
 

Cordovan

Community Manager
I will definitely keep this conversation in mind prior to stating anything further about 64-bit transfers in the coming weeks, thank you for the reminder. The goal was to answer the question provided in chat, and give an overview of the current situation. The wider discussion included that, but taking out a specific bit makes it seem more formal, as does the original text in the OP.
 

vik

Well-known member
You're correct, you did not say that was what you were going to do. I apologize for jumping all over this, but the intent was to let you know it's important to me. Thank you.
 

danzig138

Well-known member
As stated on Friday, no decision has been made and any speculation on my part is just that. It is true that currently, Astral Shards do not transfer with character transfers, and we typically require people to spend that total down prior to transfer to date. Whether we do that with 64-bit server transfers is not known.
Speculation on your part isn't helping things though. You might think about that as we get closer to an actual transfer.
 

Felsyn

Pretty Normal Weird Guy
I will definitely keep this conversation in mind prior to stating anything further about 64-bit transfers in the coming weeks, thank you for the reminder. The goal was to answer the question provided in chat, and give an overview of the current situation. The wider discussion included that, but taking out a specific bit makes it seem more formal, as does the original text in the OP.
Everyone is just ancy fren
 

Eulrik878

Well-known member
Cordovan "Astral Shards I do not believe will transfer, I mean they could if we have a mechanism by which we could do that but Astral Shards have always been and probably will continue to be an individual server thing.

Plug USB cable into 32 bit sever, plug other end of USB cable into new 64 bit server. AstralShardTransfer=ON. Press button.

Follow me for more tech tips. Your're welcome.
 

Phoenicis

Savage's Husband
Cordovan "Astral Shards I do not believe will transfer, I mean they could if we have a mechanism by which we could do that but Astral Shards have always been and probably will continue to be an individual server thing.

Plug USB cable into 32 bit sever, plug other end of USB cable into new 64 bit server. AstralShardTransfer=ON. Press button.

Follow me for more tech tips. Your're welcome. [/sarcasm]
Fixed.
 
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