Avoid using TRed characters for 1 week

Ped Xing

Well-known member
*sigh*

You're missing part where certain someone admitted that recent considerable increase in lag was caused by none other than bugfix.

It won't fix lag, but might make game playable
At this point in time, certain someones need to convince me i should believe them.

Their track record suggests i'd be an idiot to take anything they say at face value.
 

Lori

Well-known member
Is there no lag on Hardcore?
Hardcore is a lie.
There is only lag.
Through lag I gain anger,
Through anger I gain strength
Through strength I gain power,
Through power my chains are broken,
the lag shall free me
 

Tanis

Well-known member
The purpose isn't to assign blame but to determine whether code optimization is needed to make TRed characters more effective thereby reducing lag.

I suspect one particular feature isn't responsible for lag but seperate issues that collectively contribute creating the impression its only one issue.
I would also like to think such a collective sacrifice by the gamers will ensure the transition over to 64bit is smoother than the current "stumble and fall" situation everyone seems to be currently experiencing
With the incoming fix even if you could get players to do this you wouldn’t really know if it was this or the the fix
 

vryxnr

Well-known member
I mean, while it's NOT the players fault, don't we already know that all the extra stuff on well established characters adds load to the servers? I've posted about it many times over the years, from years of personal experience multiboxing. Yes, it's just one data point (me), and anecdotal, but from what I've seen in game, yes, older characters with more stuff related to them (larger banks filled with more stuff, filled bags, many past lives, etc) does seem to cause more load than a first lifer with not much stuff. Not no load at all, but not as much.

The anecdote which has been reoccurring for me for many years now is that my main account is vip, has overflowing banks and many mules, large TR caches, many past lives on more than one character, and years worth of accumulated stuff. My alt accounts have very few characters on them, and those ones are mostly first lifers, and barely any collected junk between them. I run them at the same time on the same computer, and use windowed mode and multiple monitors to see more than one at the same time. One of them suffers much more lag, slowdown, loading screen freezes, etc than the others. Consistently. For many years. I bet you can guess which one it is (it's my main with all the stuff).

Again, this is not to say it's players fault. It is not. The game infrastructure is clearly unable to handle what the game encourages us to do long term. I'm hoping there is work being done in the background to eventually resolve these (and many many other) issues, but I didn't think it was an unknown thing. Though I do believe we should continue to bring it up / talk about it, so that the devs get continually reminded that it is an issue and don't forget / sweet it under the rug as so many long standing issues seem to have been.
 

noddy

Powerful
I want to invite all gamers to synchronize on 1 week inwhich everyone plays ONLY firstlife characters on the 32bit servers.

But recall:
1. EVERYONE has to agree to this
2. EVERYONE has to agree to the startdate

and for the entire duration of that 1 week everyone logs into the game using ONLY firstlife characters
Hey, that's a really cool idea, please never post it again. Jokes, but why in tarnation would I want to play my gimp(s) for a week, when my main is fully comp finally?
 

noddy

Powerful
Come join EXTREME MV Permadeath, we play firstlife all the time. Great bunch of peeps and we have more than one full group running everyday, although you are welcome to solo if you choose.

Have fun and enjoy the game.

😁👸
Ah, it's like the annoying radio ad that happens to play on every station at once.
 

FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted

If you read my posts you have already lost
Come join EXTREME MV Permadeath, we play firstlife all the time. Great bunch of peeps and we have more than one full group running everyday, although you are welcome to solo if you choose.

Have fun and enjoy the game.

😁👸
the more you talk about it the worse I feel for you. your head must be so big that you need 2 doors to fit through if you really think this highly of your guild
 

Positive thinking

Well-known member
the more you talk about it the worse I feel for you. your head must be so big that you need 2 doors to fit through if you really think this highly of your guild
You shouldnt worry about others so much and spend some time focusing on making yourself a better person. Although i appreciate the compassion, feeling for me and all, but you should try thinking better of yourself and maybe good things will come to you from the universe.

Karma is a thing. Wishing you all the best in whatever little group of folks you run with.

👍🏻👍🏻
 

Jeronimo

Playing since 2006
I want to invite all gamers to synchronize on 1 week inwhich everyone plays ONLY firstlife characters on the 32bit servers.

But recall:
1. EVERYONE has to agree to this
2. EVERYONE has to agree to the startdate

and for the entire duration of that 1 week everyone logs into the game using ONLY firstlife characters
No thanks
 

Ryiah

Well-known member
I am not understanding these hard "No" replies. It suggests these "No" players are even able to play in the first place. Are the "No" players not experiencing lag? Do the "No" players enjoy playing turned-based in an active-combat game?
Some of us simply haven't experienced lag beyond what we're already used to. In my case the most that I've seen during this whole situation is maybe one or two bursts a day and that's it. Other than that just the usual lag we experience constantly in DDO. I've been able to complete two entire lives during this period and I'm working on a third.
 

Stratiotis

Well-known member
I envy you.
Maybe I need to update my automatic smoke signal generator to that new fan-dangled Morse code light lamps for faster and longer data transmissions...
 

Ryiah

Well-known member
Maybe I need to update my automatic smoke signal generator to that new fan-dangled Morse code light lamps for faster and longer data transmissions...
My only conclusion is that it's because I've been running solo in heroic content on a lower population server (Khyber). Quite possibly in a server instance that no one else is occupying but this part is simply conjecture because we have no way of knowing. That seems to line up with the statements I've seen from other players in a similar situation.
 
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Uska

Drum knight
The next new character I make will be on the new server I have no interest in your idea but good luck
 

Positive thinking

Well-known member
The next new character I make will be on the new server I have no interest in your idea but good luck
The new beginning is going to be awesome and lets hope completely lag free.

Later on they can prepare an extra 64 bit server for any of those left that want to transfer their old toons to what will be known as the end game raiding 64 bit server, call it the Postmunchkinia server.

Happy times for all!
 

5 Other People

all the voices in my head are my own
While my completionist character was once a point of pride, it's now a point of embarrassment.

I'm not sure of the longer term impacts of the community targeting past lives as sources of lag. I'm not saying it's wrong, but if we point fingers at these folks and some get off the hamster-wheel of reincarnation, well, that would take away a huge source of gaming and push more folks into the end game....but, the real jeopardy is if folks start shaming & blaming others for using their "heavy" characters...our community is smaller than it once was, I'm not sure we can afford further division.
 
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Rusty_helmet

Teh_troll’s Fluffer
I am not understanding these hard "No" replies. It suggests these "No" players are even able to play in the first place. Are the "No" players not experiencing lag? Do the "No" players enjoy playing turned-based in an active-combat game?
Some people enjoy logging in and then mouth breathing by the bank for an hour.
 
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