# Axelcast #12 - Cordovan, Community Manager for DDO and LOTRO
# https://www.youtube.com/watch/FJVKOFCWnqw
00:00 welcome everyone to episode number 12 of
00:00 my podcast we got uh guest cordovin the
00:00 SSG Community manager here today hello
00:00 nice to be here yeah and there's a bunch
00:00 of stuff we can talk about a lot of
00:00 things I wanted to ask you Cordo I mean
00:00 we've never there's a bunch of stuff I
00:00 said no to I'm sorry gave me a list of
00:00 questions and I was like I can't answer
00:00 that I'm sorry no no it's i i a th%
00:00 understand that there's things you can't
00:00 talk about believe me I get it and if
00:00 you can't talk about something then just
00:00 say you can't talk about that you're not
00:00 going to hurt my we did and we figured
00:00 out what we can talk about so it should
00:00 be a pretty good show so yeah so I have
00:00 a couple announcements for this the
00:00 podcast first this week I did just put
00:00 the this podcast on Spotify so you can
00:00 now listen on Spotify in addition to
00:00 YouTube and YouTube music so I know
00:00 there's a community of people who don't
00:00 really like using YouTube for podcast so
00:00 I wanted to make sure I got it on
00:00 Spotify as well and I finally figured
00:00 out how how to do that this week and I
00:00 want to try to get it on Apple music as
00:00 well but I'm having problems with my
00:01 account and getting all that to work but
00:01 maybe if I can get that to work then
00:01 maybe but thought we would start with
00:01 CTO coven is it C coven right coven yeah
00:01 CTO okay sometimes I think the whatever
00:01 you want to call me as sometimes I've
00:01 used many I'm like Gandalf I've used
00:01 many names yeah so yeah you can be like
00:01 me you can't figure out a name you just
00:01 mash them all together make that your
00:01 Twitch name yeah so uh all right so I
00:01 thought maybe I'd ask you to just
00:01 introduce yourself I mean most people
00:01 probably know who you are but for people
00:01 who are listening on YouTube and there's
00:01 there's quite a few people who actually
00:01 watch my YouTube channel cuz I know cuz
00:01 they comment and they don't they may
00:01 have not played the game for a long time
00:01 or maybe played once or very new players
00:01 may not know who you are so if you would
00:01 just just tell everyone who you are and
00:01 what you do at SSG sure uh my public
00:01 Persona name is cordovan and my real
00:01 name is Jerry snook and I'm the
00:01 community manager for standing Stone
00:01 games I was initially hired back with
00:01 Warner Brothers back in 2010 and prior
00:01 to that I was a DDO player from June of
00:02 2006 uh just a few months after release
00:02 you know I started playing the game got
00:02 really into it uh in early 2007 I
00:02 started a podcast and it was about
00:02 Dungeons and Dragons online and I did
00:02 that and brought on some guests uh some
00:02 folks like too as a guest host and uh
00:02 she ended up leaving first to get hired
00:02 by then turbine and uh I was hired a few
00:02 years later under Warner Brothers and
00:02 have been with the Dungeons and Dragons
00:02 online team in some capacity since that
00:02 time so I I have managed to weather a
00:02 long business Road here over over since
00:02 2010 and I've still been with with the
00:02 game and am happy to do so and it I've
00:02 was hired as a uh underling Community
00:02 person and have really essentially been
00:02 in charge since about 2017 or so and
00:03 prior to that I
00:03 basically made sure everyone knew how I
00:03 felt anyway So eventually I guess they
00:03 just let me let me do it so no that
00:03 that's awesome that you uh you started
00:03 as a as a player and as a fan and then
00:03 slowly merged into actually working for
00:03 for the game that's that's really cool
00:03 yeah I should mention that since 2017
00:03 since we became standing Stone games I
00:03 have been the community manager both for
00:03 Dungeons and Dragons on online and the
00:03 other game the lord of the brings online
00:03 so my the actual say workload that I do
00:03 on a weekly basis is for both games and
00:03 it's as everything that standing Stone
00:03 games is developing is is my purview so
00:03 what kind of things do you do like we we
00:03 know that you uh you are in charge of
00:03 like the forums and and the Discord and
00:03 all that but like what other things do
00:03 you think would be interesting to
00:03 explain to people like like like your
00:03 job like what what do you do like other
00:03 than that if you think about game
00:04 development you you've often got a
00:04 structure of a development team that a
00:04 core group of people who were hired to
00:04 make a game and that team interfaces
00:04 with uh really an additional layer which
00:04 is everything from accounting to
00:04 marketing and in often cases community
00:04 and the the main conduit it is to be the
00:04 external voice Inward and the inward
00:04 voice externals so for example you know
00:04 uh torque will have a new raid that just
00:04 came out in DD and and at some point
00:04 about this time we need to start asking
00:04 questions well how did it go did people
00:04 like it what did they like about it what
00:04 did they not like about it uh we've got
00:04 another patch maybe two patches to go
00:04 before we really need to turn our
00:04 attention to other stuff here so what do
00:04 we need to get done you know and all
00:04 that kind of stuff is really the conduit
00:04 by which the community part of the game
00:05 flows through so it's not just say being
00:05 the for or the the dude who posts on X
00:05 or whatever like that there's a lot of
00:05 communication inward in addition to
00:05 inward communication outward and each of
00:05 those are a big part of the job so it it
00:05 really is is to be a conduit to make
00:05 sure that your voice is being heard and
00:05 that our voice is being heard to you um
00:05 as much as possible okay yeah I I never
00:05 really thought about it that way but
00:05 yeah that's um that's interesting huh so
00:05 you're kind of the the Le liaison to uh
00:05 from the representative of the players I
00:05 guess you could say that's okay so uh I
00:05 wanted to ask you as well like what I'm
00:05 also the dude who does post on X and it
00:05 runs the Discord and the forums and and
00:05 all that other stuff too so it it is a
00:05 job that you know over time will kind of
00:05 do its own thing so so what what is it
00:05 so it must be interesting um or
00:06 what what's your relationship like with
00:06 the game like how often do you really
00:06 get a chance to because it's it's as I
00:06 know you started out as a player do you
00:06 still play the game a little bit just
00:06 for fun like on the side and and all
00:06 that yeah you know the I I've been doing
00:06 this now it'll be 15 years this November
00:06 that I've been hired so 14 years I've
00:06 been with this game so far and over that
00:06 time there are periods naturally where
00:06 you're going to play more and you're
00:06 going to play less and there times where
00:06 you got to focus on what's going on in
00:06 the other game cuz holy moly
00:06 everything's on fire over there you know
00:06 that too I heard I don't so so that you
00:06 do have natural EV and flow in what you
00:06 play but I do play I've never even going
00:06 back to the old podcast days I've never
00:06 really been the hardcore meta Raider
00:06 geared perfector you know I've always
00:06 been a let just roll with what we have
00:06 it's all good let's have fun kind of
00:07 player you know and so uh I've often
00:07 been the kind who who isn't just a
00:07 casual though either because I do care
00:07 about that
00:07 stuff it's just that I I have a fairly
00:07 moderate limit that I will be like well
00:07 I'm I'm not going to run that more than
00:07 x times not because I don't want the
00:07 loot just because that's just not how I
00:07 play video games and it's not just a DDO
00:07 thing either it's every video game ever
00:07 that I
00:07 play I get that no I I'm probably
00:07 somewhere in the middle because I I I
00:07 try to talk to and engage with both sets
00:07 of players because certainly I play with
00:07 a lot of like very casual players but
00:07 then I also like talking with the uh
00:07 like term though for me and I don't
00:07 think it's accurate for me because I'm
00:07 not a casual player I'm G to say at this
00:07 point I probably know more about DDO
00:07 than some percentage of people and then
00:07 there's a whole bunch of people who know
00:07 more than me too of course you you do
00:07 your best to to keep up with the meta as
00:08 it changes but trust me it's a job yeah
00:08 yeah I didn't mean I didn't mean casual
00:08 as in you don't know what you're doing I
00:08 casual in terms of your but also because
00:08 I I will raid and I do do like those
00:08 skill limits and I do believe in
00:08 skill-based gameplay and all that you
00:08 know I'm not just here to to click a
00:08 couple buttons and and drink some coffee
00:08 either you know I'm I do take it serious
00:08 sometimes yeah what I always like doing
00:08 in well in DDO in in other games I take
00:08 a concept like an archetype I really
00:08 enjoy like for me the probably the big
00:08 one I like is like Melee clerics so I'll
00:08 like take that concept and even if that
00:08 concept may not be super super meta I'll
00:08 take that concept and then maximize that
00:08 concept the best I can and even some
00:08 people will com like well why you
00:08 playing you know melee cleric or
00:08 whatever and I'm like well because
00:08 that's what I want to play and I will
00:08 minmax that uh that idea that's that's
00:08 what I tend to
00:08 do I I'm ahead of I was I'm so Indie man
00:08 it was before it was cool I came up with
00:08 the favored Soul rogue build and
00:08 everyone said that it was garbage on the
00:09 forums and I stand by the fact that I
00:09 basically created an Inquisitor and such
00:09 before it happened I'm just saying for
00:09 the record yeah that build that you were
00:09 saying back in 2008 sucked it didn't
00:09 suck which one which one well I I made
00:09 an old favorite Soul rogue build I said
00:09 that was like that was a no no not you
00:09 the world the world told me it sucked in
00:09 the podcast they're like what that's the
00:09 worst build ever man and I was like
00:09 no I think I mean you know I think some
00:09 players will look at a lot of players
00:09 will have the where if they see
00:09 something maybe it's maybe if you think
00:09 of the most Min maxy thing ever is at
00:09 100% this build or this idea might be at
00:09 97 and they'll just overe exaggerate and
00:09 be like oh that's the worst thing ever
00:09 because you're not super 100% efficient
00:09 but you can still hang in there with
00:09 everything that matters and you still
00:09 have all the power you really need to do
00:09 the content you want to do right and
00:09 when it comes down to it I do care about
00:09 the content of DDO very much not just
00:09 because it's my job but because this has
00:09 been my passion for almost 20 years now
00:09 so yeah you know uh hopefully some of
00:10 that comes through as well oh I wanted
00:10 to ask you do you have any favorite I
00:10 know it's maybe a hard question to
00:10 answer um in your position do you have
00:10 any favorite like classes in the game
00:10 that you like to play cuz you're kind of
00:10 a melee I I am a well-known I am a
00:10 well-known cleric player right I was
00:10 going to say I'm a battle cleric player
00:10 I think we have that in common cuz I'm
00:10 kind of known as the melee cleric guy
00:10 and yeah it seems like you as I saw you
00:10 playing your uh toi dark apostate I
00:10 think it was for quite a while on your
00:10 stream
00:10 so that's cool yep yeah I do I did like
00:10 that build very much as well that was
00:10 really fun yeah I think the reason I
00:10 like playing them is I my f two favorite
00:10 things to do in this game is I like to
00:10 play melee DPS and I like to play as a
00:10 Healer support and that blends those two
00:10 ideas that's why I play it uh I could
00:10 play it as a as a Caster healer but I
00:10 just don't I mean it's cool everyone has
00:10 their own their own preferences I just
00:10 tend to enjoy melees more that's just my
00:10 preference not to say casters aren't
00:10 aren't fun and strong and all that it's
00:11 just uh I like uh I like playing the
00:11 melees personally so every Friday I do
00:11 an official live stream and I've been
00:11 doing it for I guess a decade now
00:11 because I've got some videos going back
00:11 to
00:11 2015 and um as a result a lot of what I
00:11 do in my free time is working up the
00:11 characters so that I don't totally fall
00:11 flat and embarrass myself on the live
00:11 stream right but when you're only
00:11 playing an hour or week on those main
00:11 characters and then also doing news on
00:11 the side you you don't get a lot of the
00:11 process time needed to really keep up
00:11 with whatever is going on in the game
00:11 whether it's gear or content right so I
00:11 am often playing those characters when I
00:11 play these days and those characters
00:11 just because of the nature of the live
00:11 stream it makes the most sense to be
00:11 playing whatever the current thing is I
00:11 don't always do that you know there's
00:11 been whole classes that come out that
00:11 I've just not really focused on the live
00:12 stream but I try in general to be
00:12 whatever's roughly up there in terms of
00:12 current and so as a result that's what I
00:12 play most often these days is kind of
00:12 whatever's current because either I'm
00:12 doing that on the live stream or I'm
00:12 trying to keep up so that I can be there
00:12 for the live stream in a way that that
00:12 works yeah no I mean that's got to be
00:12 part of your job right you want to show
00:12 everyone what the new thing is do that
00:12 make sense and you got to get that gear
00:12 if you can even though I have weird Dev
00:12 look on live stream that's the best part
00:12 about the live stream over that decade
00:12 if I had I wish over the decade I'd
00:12 saved those amazing I ran I got my
00:12 gibbers blade for running the first time
00:12 on hard nice difficulty you know I first
00:12 time on a character running it on hard
00:12 difficulty and I pulled a gibbers you
00:12 know I've had some unusually good luck
00:12 with raids that you all have released so
00:12 when cotton the web released I wanted
00:12 the cleaver very first run I got the
00:12 cleaver I pulled it when uh uh what was
00:12 it project Nemesis came out I wanted the
00:13 uh I wanted the the necklace very first
00:13 round got the necklace yeah yeah I have
00:13 good loot look too sometimes on stream
00:13 it's great gibbers I did have to run
00:13 maybe only maybe 30 times I I got it
00:13 fairly quickly so I've I've had
00:13 historically like I know there's people
00:13 like like dra who've had uh bad luck I
00:13 know he jokes about that a lot on DD
00:13 players news but uh I don't J Farm I I
00:13 don't gibber Farm but I do have just
00:13 naturally one of their gibbers otherwise
00:13 so yeah um I get what because you you
00:13 play you have characters on every server
00:13 I imagine it's it's you realistically
00:13 it's tough to be super ultra geared on
00:13 every character when you have that many
00:13 characters you're absolutely right like
00:13 I said thankfully that was never a
00:13 monster concern to mine you know I've
00:13 often been like well I have what I have
00:13 and I'm going to get what I'm going to
00:13 get and let's use that so um but yeah it
00:13 is difficult and you do run behind
00:13 there's no no feasible way unless you
00:14 were playing on admin characters which
00:14 didn't play the game like regular and
00:14 then you could just self gear them but
00:14 then that's a lot of work too and I'd
00:14 rather just play my real characters so
00:14 you know there's that wall there where I
00:14 actually have to get all this stuff you
00:14 know I don't I there's no Dev hacks or
00:14 anything like that going on it's all
00:14 just straight gameplay you know yeah no
00:14 I I get it I have a charact I mainly
00:14 play ananis but uh a couple weeks ago we
00:14 went and raid on orian and I have a
00:14 a war Channer B over there and it was uh
00:14 me and cozy bean and uh well it was we
00:14 we did the little event but a bunch of
00:14 other people showed up and it was fun
00:14 but my character just wasn't geared but
00:14 it was okay we just uh we dropped
00:14 difficulty a little bit and it was fine
00:14 still fun MH all right I typically run
00:14 uh either low Reaper or Elite depending
00:14 on whether I care whether it's Reaper or
00:14 not at that time really usually yeah I'm
00:14 I'm mostly the same way I'll run like
00:14 like R1 usually when I'm leveling and
00:15 then if I get to legendaries depending
00:15 if on my main character I will try to
00:15 run like R4 R six to get you got to get
00:15 those Reaper points but uh mostly
00:15 leveling I'm I'm like low Reaper and I
00:15 think that's where most of the community
00:15 is Elite R1 I just my experience it
00:15 seems like the vast majority of the
00:15 community is running that uh except
00:15 maybe maybe new players
00:15 but sadly it's well known though because
00:15 I've embarrassed myself more than enough
00:15 times on the live stream that I run one
00:15 difficulty when it's just me on the
00:15 keyboard and another difficulty when I'm
00:15 actually on the air because it's so much
00:15 harder to do all that stuff when you're
00:15 trying to worry about chat and be the
00:15 voice of the company and all that sort
00:15 of thing I I I get my floor I'll be like
00:15 well I just ran it last night on R2 so
00:15 it'll be fine on this and then it isn't
00:15 fine whatsoever so you know I was just
00:15 talking about this on my stream actually
00:15 and that actually impacts so as as
00:15 someone who streams a lot that that
00:15 impacts my builds I will run a lot of
00:16 two-handed fighting characters for this
00:16 reason because I don't have to hit as
00:16 many active buttons and you get the
00:16 strike through so you can kind of just
00:16 hold the mouse button down and go
00:16 forward and you can still read twitch
00:16 chat and all that if I had to play like
00:16 uh pill master or something why I had to
00:16 tab Target for insta kills and all that
00:16 it would be much harder so I found that
00:16 yeah it's it's impacted my build choice
00:16 for sure not going to lie right now I'm
00:16 playing at warlock so it's all nice and
00:16 easy I just sort of hold that Mouse
00:16 button down and I'm good so you know
00:16 I'll have to get to them eventually I
00:16 finally decided this year I was going to
00:16 start heroic doing heroic completionist
00:16 and and actually start down that road so
00:16 I've gotten most of the melee stuff down
00:16 I'm start going to the to the Caster
00:16 lives probably do Alchemist next I've
00:16 never really played
00:16 Alchemist so that should be fun so other
00:16 things I I just want to ask you do you
00:16 have any favorite quests you like or
00:16 have any particular fondness for in the
00:16 game I like a lot of the new work that
00:16 we've done of late is the past couple of
00:17 years but there's also a part of me that
00:17 loves the classics that you know date to
00:17 the earliest parts of the game so when I
00:17 actually try to put together a top list
00:17 it's like well do you really want to
00:17 keep that one dungeon from 2006 in there
00:17 you know that sort of thing but I think
00:17 it's still true that I love like the Von
00:17 chain okay I think the whole Von chain
00:17 is up there towards my favorite I love
00:17 the Menan desert stuff I think that's
00:17 excellent I love uh
00:17 uh I mean I even like like gillin stand
00:17 that's a personal longtime favorite of
00:17 mine I just like it I love IR Stone
00:17 Inlet I like sord DUS a lot I know a lot
00:17 of people don't run that but I really
00:17 like sord DUS in terms of the lower
00:17 content actually I think it's level 10
00:17 or so but I I do that all the time
00:17 that's a main quest Runner because you
00:17 get all sorts of favor and XP from that
00:17 and I have a very big fondness for
00:17 Reaver reach I love reavers reach y yeah
00:17 yeah I wish wish we could go back
00:17 someday and and fix that one up a little
00:18 bit Yeah that would be awesome if you
00:18 all ever have the time or or decide to
00:18 do that I would definitely be hyped to
00:18 hear that yeah make it easier to get two
00:18 for one and then for two sort out the
00:18 dragon touched armor thing but that's
00:18 that I think is a fairly big project
00:18 unfortunately so I think the only one
00:18 about that chain I think the thing the
00:18 other thing that kind of bothers me is
00:18 the uh pray on the hunter at the very
00:18 end has that auto faill which can be a
00:18 little frustrating and then I think a
00:18 lot of people would love to see the uh
00:18 the flagging remove for stealer Souls
00:18 right yeah exactly and remove that but
00:18 actually I didn't bring that up because
00:18 I actually think that would be one of
00:18 the easier parts of it okay I think I
00:18 think it would be some of the a more
00:18 functional how does how do you get there
00:18 and how does it look and then also
00:18 dealing with um the system of dragon
00:18 touched armor because you want it you
00:18 would need if you're going to redo it it
00:18 needs to be really up to Modern
00:18 standards in terms of gear acquisition
00:18 which means you really are need to Nuke
00:18 it from the ground and start fresh both
00:18 in the way that it's acquired and sort
00:18 of how you do it so yeah and I think
00:19 that that's a pretty full project for
00:19 the systems team oh yeah I'm sure I'm
00:19 sure yeah I'm um that's a pretty
00:19 nostalgic pack for me the first time I
00:19 got to level 20 was in rers reach so a
00:19 lot lot of a lot of nostalgia for it
00:19 personally so any favorite
00:19 raids I was actually just going to say
00:19 except that now I'm now that I'm on the
00:19 air I can't remember what the like the
00:19 name of
00:19 I've got a name in my head and it's like
00:19 that's not the name of the raid but what
00:19 the heck is the name of the
00:19 raid why am I just describe it tell you
00:19 what no I am going to look it up I am
00:19 not going to do this yes fall of Truth
00:19 oh yeah yeah that's the one okay I love
00:19 fall of truth I love fall of truth I
00:19 like the uh The Voice lines at the
00:19 beginning I always thought the the
00:19 dragon sounded like an 80s metal
00:19 singer that's that's what always comes
00:19 to mind that's true I actually I really
00:19 love uh demon queen as well that even
00:20 the with its somewhat weird 6 to 12
00:20 person flagging I love it and I like the
00:20 TW six 12 person flagging part I think
00:20 it's neat
00:20 yeah the uh I think the Hy well we'll
00:20 talk about the Hydra right here in in a
00:20 minute but the the Hydra raade I thought
00:20 it was real good that you all just
00:20 did
00:20 yeah I like a lot of her raids honestly
00:20 uh I've always thought the Shroud is a
00:20 real classic and I love the kind of
00:20 multi-stage approach to it uh I really
00:20 like Tower despair I think you know
00:20 speaking of content that could would be
00:20 a massive project to revisit but we
00:20 should do someday uh Tower despair is on
00:20 that list you know yeah I imagine that
00:20 one I mean I don't I don't I'm just
00:20 speculating obviously I don't know how
00:20 much work it is but I imagine with all
00:20 the CU back in the day it had all the
00:20 the ring belt sets I imagine if you all
00:20 wanted to recreate that that would be
00:20 tons of loot loot design work I I think
00:20 in some ways the issue with Tower of
00:20 Despair is that it was written back in a
00:21 day that has since changed so much to
00:21 the way things are done these days you
00:21 know both in terms of like underlying
00:21 structure and process everything the
00:21 code itself right was so I think in some
00:21 ways you would rebuild a new raid that
00:21 would mimic the old raid as opposed to
00:21 trying to quote fix the old raid and
00:21 make a new version out of that that and
00:21 that I think is ultimately one of the
00:21 biggest Hang-Ups as to why we haven't
00:21 gotten to it yet one thing that I always
00:21 thought would be cool is if you all ever
00:21 did a legendary version and I know the
00:21 community would be super hyped if you
00:21 all decided to do that but um I always
00:21 thought it' Be Cool If instead of ring
00:21 belt sets based on the enhancement trees
00:21 maybe the legendary version bases it on
00:21 the Epic Destinies always thought that
00:21 would be a cool cool thing to see maybe
00:21 a little less maybe more feasible for
00:21 you all because there's so many
00:21 enhancement trees now with archetypes
00:21 that's yeah that seems a little much for
00:21 work for a new ring system would be
00:22 though wouldn't it it would be a new new
00:22 ring system would be pretty hot though
00:22 that that was hot hot stuff back when
00:22 that came out oh yeah yeah I couldn't
00:22 imagine with all the enhancement trees
00:22 how large of a loot list that would be
00:22 geez how many en do you have any idea
00:22 how many enhancement trees are in the
00:22 game now there is there's a lot no I
00:22 have no idea I don't either all right
00:22 well uh let's see oh okay super random
00:22 nothing to do with D I had to ask you
00:22 because I think you mentioned this on
00:22 your stream once are you a twin yeah yes
00:22 I am
00:22 too okay so I was just like okay yeah
00:22 fraternal uh people say we look alike a
00:22 little less so as we've both aged a
00:22 little bit but yeah you know it's
00:22 actually he's the reason I started
00:22 playing DDO really because my my if the
00:22 long version of my story starts at a
00:22 Best Buy in
00:22 2006 when my brother calls me up on the
00:22 phone and says hey if you're buying a
00:22 video game buy Dungeons and Dragons
00:22 online and play it with me and I was
00:22 like all right nice see I have the
00:22 opposite with the opposite relationship
00:22 with my twin brother I've been trying to
00:23 get him to play D for years and he won't
00:23 so maybe someday I I'll get through to
00:23 him okay well I guess we can get now
00:23 into the the recent stuff that's going
00:23 on in the game so update 71 we had some
00:23 release notes on for lania the lman
00:23 preview was this week I I did not get a
00:23 chance I was just so busy at work this
00:23 week I wasn't able to hop on but uh I
00:23 know you all had your first preview this
00:23 week and there's three new quests that
00:23 were previewed that the release notes
00:23 say they are coming this spring and they
00:23 are being sold in a new way players will
00:23 have the option to purchase them
00:23 individually or in a group as normal and
00:23 the the quests that are being sold are
00:23 the new Quest names are sleeping with
00:23 the fishes covered Culvert and toil and
00:23 trouble and they're going to be sold for
00:23 175 DDO Points each and then there's a
00:23 guest pass for 40 d points if you want
00:23 to do a guess pass and then they're free
00:23 for VIPs so yeah so what's going on with
00:23 that you all decided to do a new a new
00:24 approach with the way you're selling
00:24 these right it really has to do with the
00:24 timeline of the way it's being released
00:24 and and US wanting to experiment a
00:24 little bit with the traditional way we
00:24 release Quest packs we wanted to
00:24 introduce the possibility of doing
00:24 sequential
00:24 storytelling although in this specific
00:24 case they're each independent stories
00:24 under a Tavern Tales you know the
00:24 connecting thread is sort of Tavern
00:24 Tales but if this works one theory in
00:24 the future could be that we could tell
00:24 some sequential
00:24 storytelling um through the sale of a
00:24 quest pack that you know buy it get it
00:24 all or you know lower cost where you can
00:24 just kind of buy it as it comes out if
00:24 you want to or if you encounter it and
00:24 run into it and have that cost be able
00:24 to be low enough that it you know it's
00:24 it's well within the VIP monthly Point
00:24 Grant and and
00:25 perhaps is within a price point that it
00:25 it feels feels like a smaller purchase
00:25 rather than a full purchase of a quest
00:25 pack so it it it offers some granularity
00:25 there and and but one of the reasons
00:25 we're doing this one is we're releasing
00:25 these quests uh roughly
00:25 about I think the plan is about two
00:25 weeks apart okay and and that is why we
00:25 wanted to kind of give it its own little
00:25 structure
00:25 as well because we didn't want people to
00:25 basically buy the quest pack or get the
00:25 quest pack as VIP and then go look well
00:25 wait a second where's the quests right
00:25 so we wanted to make sure that that we
00:25 called this out as hey this is this is
00:25 something we're playing around with as
00:25 an sequential release and we're going to
00:25 call it an Adventure Pass and do it for
00:25 this next Quest pack for Tavern Tales
00:25 yeah so the adventure PASS gives you you
00:25 buy that you just have you're Bally
00:25 pre-ordering you're going to get also if
00:25 you're VIP you just get the stuff right
00:25 so it's fine but but yeah yeah after so
00:26 after all three quests release is the
00:26 Adventure Pass going to be pulled from
00:26 the store and replac just with an
00:26 adventure pack or how no I think we're
00:26 going to keep it like well I mean we'll
00:26 see but I think it'll stay as the
00:26 Adventure Pass and there is a slight
00:26 discount for buying the Adventure Pass
00:26 as well just to be clear you know versus
00:26 buying them all separate um but I think
00:26 if this works out and we want to keep
00:26 adding to this category then we'll we'll
00:26 probably just keep adding to the
00:26 category but if if ultimately this
00:26 becomes well it was fun for this one
00:26 maybe we're going to not do this again
00:26 or not do it much and then we'll have to
00:26 see where it all the naming Falls okay
00:26 so like after the three quests come out
00:26 the the pass will essentially be kind of
00:26 kind of work like a pack at that point
00:26 right you just buy it and then you'll
00:26 get the three quests yeah uh yeah uh and
00:26 there's four quests too isn't there oh
00:26 is there four did I miss there are four
00:26 quests oh it's just not on preview for
00:26 this we oh okay so three were preview
00:27 but there's going to be four okay I
00:27 didn't I didn't realize that mhm and uh
00:27 troggy was was joking in chat we were we
00:27 were talking about this before but uh
00:27 yeah you all like Troy so much you get
00:27 he named an Adventure Pass after him you
00:27 know Troy tabern Tales yeah yeah spelled
00:27 differently though his is t a i LS yeah
00:27 yeah yeah and this is t a l s okay well
00:27 they you know they both in the Source
00:27 book material as well there are sort of
00:27 a releases of Tavern Tales throughout
00:27 the editions and that was really just
00:27 what we wanted to lean into for this
00:27 particular Quest pack okay is it okay
00:27 yeah didn't realize
00:27 that um I mean there have been over the
00:27 years I you
00:27 know and we had like there was what was
00:27 it both fourth and fifth had like was it
00:27 fourth and fifth that both did taals
00:27 from the yawning portal or is that just
00:27 fifth I'm not sure I'm not but I I'm not
00:27 super knowledgeable with when it comes
00:27 to pen and paper I wish I was but um I
00:28 rely on other people for that when I do
00:28 these podcasts but uh um okay so is this
00:28 going to be so you may not be able to
00:28 talk about this I don't know there was
00:28 mentioned in the producers letter of a
00:28 progressively unlocking event is this
00:28 related to that or is that a different
00:28 thing I think that'll be a different
00:28 thing uh that'll be
00:28 more a little bit more similar to the
00:28 elth event okay that we ran I I think
00:28 we're going to have more of a in-game
00:28 kind of event later this year and I I
00:28 believe that part of The Producers
00:28 letter is referencing that okay can you
00:28 say if that's going to be so is that
00:28 going to work is it there going to be
00:28 free quests later is that the plan you
00:28 may not be able to tell me but we do
00:28 yeah we there are further quests that'll
00:28 be coming this year outside of the
00:28 expansion and then we do have the
00:28 expansion as well
00:28 yeah so the other thing that was
00:28 mentioned and this is another one I
00:28 don't know how much you can say really
00:28 but one of the some of the release notes
00:28 for L Mania said uh there was a
00:29 performance update preview the release
00:29 notes said we've made some adjustments
00:29 to improve game performance with the
00:29 preview like many of our performance
00:29 changes these changes touch quite deep
00:29 in our workings of the game uh then it
00:29 was it was asked for players to try a
00:29 few existing Dungeons and and relay
00:29 their experiences do you have any idea
00:29 idea or can you say anything about the
00:29 the work being done on that
00:29 so I want to preference my answer un
00:29 fortunately by talking briefly about the
00:29 other game which is that we have been in
00:29 the middle of a very very hectic
00:29 character transfer period related to
00:29 moving players generally from the 32 to
00:29 64bit new game worlds and as such I have
00:29 had to put in I'm
00:29 not I'm not trying to wo was me or
00:29 anything but probably something like a
00:29 100 hours past couple of weeks on this
00:29 sort of thing and so my ability to
00:29 actually be as into to the nitty-gritty
00:29 of what was in this week's lman is a
00:30 little lower than usual just to say I
00:30 kind of just like hey you know what
00:30 you're doing roll with it you know what
00:30 I mean okay that said that said maybe is
00:30 the answer because I was in a meeting
00:30 this past week where torque was talk and
00:30 the engineers were talking about one of
00:30 the changes that we have in the works
00:30 related to enemy detection of players in
00:30 certain conditions and the both torque
00:30 and the engineer had been able to
00:30 identify an area
00:30 of AI basically detection behavior that
00:30 was a little out of control and causing
00:30 problems and they were working to
00:30 resolve that and I believe that they had
00:30 the fix checked into the build and if
00:30 that was checked into the build that
00:30 would might be well what they're talking
00:30 about in this performance fix but
00:30 because I was not actually there nor
00:30 have I seen what actually got checked
00:30 into the build I don't know if that's
00:31 even what they're talking about gotcha
00:31 but I know that that's in the works and
00:31 that sounds like about kind of what this
00:31 might be right yeah what I heard from
00:31 players uh that I talked to is they they
00:31 didn't just they just didn't know what
00:31 they should be looking forh in the
00:31 preview well I think I think that's
00:31 deliberate though in part because the
00:31 answer is we want to know what you're
00:31 seeing especially on these kind of
00:31 changes the Halo is what we're going to
00:31 need to catch from crowdsourced Behavior
00:31 you can do as much much of that as you
00:31 can internally but especially when
00:31 you're dealing with enemy detection of
00:31 players or something like that whether
00:31 it's that specifically or some other
00:31 thing like that often it's just better
00:31 to be like just tell us what you're
00:31 seeing you know and I think that that's
00:31 the intention for this okay that's fair
00:31 like you didn't want to point players to
00:31 F hyperfocus on something and miss miss
00:31 other areas MH okay that's
00:31 fair so the next thing in the release
00:31 notes was are this could have been just
00:31 in in news I'm not sure the eladrin cha
00:32 mancer chaos mancer iconic heroic bundle
00:32 is now available in the DDO store so
00:32 there's now a bundle of the Aladin race
00:32 wild Mage sorcerer archetype and the
00:32 chaos chaos mancer iconic at a
00:32 discounted price is there anything that
00:32 so I know a lot of people were were
00:32 looking for that for a while you all had
00:32 some some issues on on release right
00:32 initially yeah this really relates to
00:32 that so what happened is is the magika
00:32 myth janor individual items that go for
00:32 sale in the DDO store typical behavior
00:32 for our expansions included the Aladin
00:32 chaos mancer iconic just Standalone
00:32 iconic but then it ran into an issue uh
00:32 where
00:32 because this was the first time where
00:32 rather than granting a free subass or
00:32 free class we did a paid class and it
00:32 was causing some problems even though we
00:32 had it set to be okay
00:32 in theory we had it set to be okay it
00:33 wasn't okay and instead people were
00:33 being locked out from being able to
00:33 actually play the chaos mancer iconic
00:33 Heroes that they were purchasing and
00:33 this was in January right so we had to
00:33 pull that from it and we're like well
00:33 okay so just get the get the iconic hero
00:33 to recognize or Grant wild Mage as well
00:33 easy enough right no not even slightly
00:33 easy as it turns out and it's become a
00:33 bit of an engineering project to
00:33 architect the ability to really
00:33 recognize that kind
00:33 of
00:33 additional yeah I got you stuff
00:33 additional stuff involving how things
00:33 are unlocked for you behind the scenes
00:33 yeah basically because it was an arch
00:33 type that that required both the race
00:33 and the it's requir the iconic and the
00:33 arch type you need players have to have
00:33 both we have to really create the
00:33 structure that allows that to the game
00:33 to understand that and so since that's
00:34 not just a matter of changing a skew in
00:34 a field somewhere or something like that
00:34 it's it's a bigger project so what we've
00:34 done is put together we wanted to do a
00:34 bundle anyway so what we did is we put
00:34 out this bundle that includes the
00:34 eladrin the wild Mage and the chaos
00:34 mancer as one and then priced it the
00:34 exact same as the separate chaos mancer
00:34 iconic hero that was released in January
00:34 while we do this work and then once we
00:34 do get in a position where we can
00:34 release the chaos mancer as a standalone
00:34 purchase that bundle is going to go up
00:34 to its regular price which is why it's
00:34 scratched out and has a big discount on
00:34 it right now is because eventually it is
00:34 going to go to its typical price but
00:34 we're pricing it for now uh so that
00:34 anyone who wants the chaos man could
00:34 just get it gotcha it's going to give
00:34 you a few other things because typically
00:34 with iconic unlocks it works with that
00:34 character but not for the whole account
00:34 right so like if you buy just an iconic
00:35 Standalone you can get whatever you need
00:35 to for that character but not for that
00:35 account you know you can't make
00:35 additional of that of some of the subs
00:35 you will when you do this so it's it's a
00:35 good deal and you should jump on it if
00:35 you're interested is what I'm saying
00:35 gotcha makes sense makes sense yeah and
00:35 and Guacamole in Chad is saying that we
00:35 were talking about how many enhancement
00:35 trees there were he's saying there's 92
00:35 in the game he says there's 27 r race
00:35 trees and 65 class trees it's a lot of
00:35 choice okay well I guess the next thing
00:35 you all let going on in the store you
00:35 all release another Coffer you all been
00:35 doing these coffers uh where basically
00:35 there's a three different tiers there's
00:35 different combinations of Cosmetics Bank
00:35 space and shared Bank space so what
00:35 inspired this recent one the black rose
00:35 Patron
00:35 Cofer so there is the concept of the
00:35 Knights of the black rose in The Raven
00:35 Loft campaign setting and uh as such we
00:36 leaned on the Lauren history of that
00:36 group in The Raven Loft campaign setting
00:36 to create a bundle and uh that is that
00:36 was the
00:36 inspiration gotcha
00:36 okay I just I legit I just know there's
00:36 a bunch of people who are like uhhuh y
00:36 I've heard different things but I just
00:36 as referenc before I just just not a
00:36 Lore Master at all so I just have no
00:36 idea
00:36 yeah okay well uh I I think it looks
00:36 cool and in full disclosure you SSG did
00:36 gift me a uh a coffer which was very
00:36 nice to y'all to to support Condor
00:36 creators like that um but no I think
00:36 these coffers are cool because it's a to
00:36 me it's a good way to monetize the game
00:36 and I like to see you all monetize it
00:36 that way because it's not it's not just
00:36 selling power nothing like that it's
00:36 just it's an optional thing if you want
00:36 some more space and some cool cos you
00:36 can have it but if not then that's cool
00:37 too doesn't hurt
00:37 you all right so uh the next thing I
00:37 wanted to ask you about or talk about
00:37 was the the Hydra Ray Dena vipers that
00:37 released what two weeks ago I think it
00:37 was we yeah yeah so I don't know are you
00:37 okay with going into the raid a little
00:37 bit because I don't know if you want to
00:37 Al to answer your first question not
00:37 since it's been released live the
00:37 question is have have I played it yet
00:37 the answer is not since it's been live
00:37 because of what I just described that's
00:37 going on on the other games that's fair
00:37 so so all I really have seen is I
00:37 wandered around in there on my admin
00:37 character during development gotcha um
00:37 but I have not actually sort of seen the
00:37 final final end result yet gotcha No I
00:37 um I really like it I think it's one of
00:37 the best rades you got honestly have
00:37 done in in quite a while I like the uh
00:37 the the first fight the bayor fight is
00:37 really cool I I played it in a few
00:37 different roles now as as the main tank
00:37 and as DPS and I think it's really fun
00:37 to play as a tank because in that first
00:38 fight you have to kind of position
00:38 yourself between the bayor and the the
00:38 trash mobs because you want to get the
00:38 baylord to shoot the lightning at the
00:38 trash mobs to bring down the shadow form
00:38 and I I just think that's a fun that's a
00:38 fun mechanic I I really enjoy playing
00:38 that one you know as a tank and then the
00:38 Hydra Hydra looks really cool I like how
00:38 you all have focused more in that raid
00:38 on uh having different jobs for people
00:38 to do and I felt like in that race the
00:38 party it's it's much more focused than
00:38 some of your previous raids and getting
00:38 the party to to really work together and
00:38 and manage things you've got the
00:38 lanterns to manage and there's a lot
00:38 going on with that raid the Hydra in
00:38 particular is a really neat part and
00:38 something we're really excited to have
00:38 been able to bring to the game the idea
00:38 of doing a Hydra fight you know has been
00:38 a long longstanding one and and the I
00:38 think where it came from though there's
00:38 a question about where it came from I
00:38 think it was last year's pack ceased
00:39 right it was the year after the one that
00:39 came from the mon we did the monster
00:39 vote for the one the one year and then
00:39 they they did an internal vote I think
00:39 on the Hydra the next year but I wasn't
00:39 there because I was busy at the MEO so
00:39 was that paxi 2023 or 2024 I think I
00:39 think I think it was 2024 okay wasn't it
00:39 I think it un like I say I wasn't there
00:39 but I think that that's when they were
00:39 like and we're going to do
00:39 Hydra uh think is where that came from I
00:39 really wanted to go last year but my
00:39 sister was having her first baby and the
00:39 baby's due date was like the same time
00:39 and I couldn't miss that so I couldn't
00:39 go but but the idea of doing a a Hydra
00:39 fight you know has cooking around for a
00:39 decade plus of course but but the idea
00:39 of and it's going to be next really was
00:39 a product of of last year's um product
00:39 management process right is this the
00:39 year for it yeah this is the year for it
00:39 so yeah so I I think the the community's
00:40 has had a very positive reaction to the
00:40 raid the one thing that that uh uh
00:40 gallinar mentioned in chat and I've seen
00:40 a lot of players talk about is the uh
00:40 the Baylor fight maybe feels like it's
00:40 not quite worth doing because the
00:40 optional chest doesn't really give
00:40 ingredients I know on I mean it does but
00:40 I don't think it's I don't believe it's
00:40 guaranteed I know when I've run it it's
00:40 only been on normal we haven't gotten
00:40 anything so I don't know if the the team
00:40 would consider maybe making the bayor
00:40 fight a little bit more work worth doing
00:40 I think that would be cool I just think
00:40 it's a really good fight a cool fight so
00:40 I would love to see that consider doing
00:40 something I would need to check with I
00:40 think steel star on what the actual
00:40 intention of that chest is and I'd also
00:40 be curious to see what the drop rate of
00:40 that stuff is once you get up to Elite
00:40 right maybe it's guaranteed on I've only
00:40 run it on normal so I I don't know maybe
00:40 it's guaranteed on Elite R1 but
00:40 uh yeah but I like I said I I myself
00:40 don't know gotcha yeah yeah no I
00:40 understand I understand um let's see I I
00:41 guess that's about it for was there
00:41 anything in the the upcoming update you
00:41 wanted to mention that that I didn't
00:41 talk about or I maybe I'm missing the
00:41 notes I think that that's I think we
00:41 basically have a covered um the the
00:41 other thing that's in the producers
00:41 letter is we do have the 64-bit server
00:41 project coming to DDO here as well later
00:41 this year yeah and and so that that is
00:41 also been a big focus of our work in
00:41 really the past couple of months but for
00:41 realsies and and for the past month or
00:41 so it's it's full steam ahead on that so
00:41 yeah and that's what I was going to do
00:41 next uh get into the producers letter
00:41 stuff and uh I just had too much going
00:41 on I wanted to ask you guys like right
00:41 after the producers letter uh dropped if
00:41 you you had some time to to do a podcast
00:41 but I was just I went on a trip to
00:41 Tennessee recently had all this stuff
00:41 going on so this is a little bit older
00:41 stuff now cuz the producers letter came
00:41 out what like uh maybe a month ago a
00:41 couple weeks yeah it's been a little
00:41 while now so but yeah the 64 orbit
00:41 servers was the first thing I was going
00:41 to going to ask you about but uh I know
00:42 ddio in the producers letter said that
00:42 you all said that you'd be introducing a
00:42 European server and then some new
00:42 servers in I assume they're going to be
00:42 Las Vegas as well or do you I think so
00:42 yeah okay I think so is there any you
00:42 may not be able to answer this do you
00:42 have any idea on the number of servers
00:42 it's an ongoing question and that's why
00:42 I can't give you a number right now um
00:42 you know there's a world where it could
00:42 be
00:42 one or more for each and we really just
00:42 need to figure out uh before we actually
00:42 do it you know well okay so if we expect
00:42 X number of people how many servers does
00:42 that mean you know and and do that work
00:42 we know that these 64-bit worlds can
00:42 handle much higher populations than the
00:42 32-bit worlds we've seen that both on
00:42 Cormier and on the other game side and
00:42 so we know roughly roughly about what
00:42 they can handle these days although
00:42 given on what's happening in the lra
00:42 side we're we're that's a number that is
00:43 currently being determined right
00:43 so we'll have that discussion and we'll
00:43 know sort of what what to expect and and
00:43 whether that's one server for each or
00:43 multiple servers for each or some some
00:43 variation thereof is really an ongoing
00:43 process is uh is Cormier going to be
00:43 open to transfers two Cormier at some
00:43 point is that still the the plan or is
00:43 that going to be kept as a fresh start
00:43 server that is also an ongoing question
00:43 uh for the time being once the lanterns
00:43 in the Mist event ends on April 15th the
00:43 guidance is that it will be remain a VIP
00:43 server and whether that stays the case
00:43 or we end up doing something else with
00:43 it is is really just something we're
00:43 going to have to announce uh once all
00:43 those other questions come into the
00:43 mix yeah well whenever you guys get get
00:43 get that set up I'm looking forward to
00:43 it there's a lot of players that
00:43 unfortunately I I I know of and I and I
00:43 talk to on stream and Discord and all
00:44 that but I can't play with them because
00:44 you know they're so established on a
00:44 different server so I'm I'm really
00:44 looking forward to being able to to
00:44 merge the population a bit here there
00:44 there is a world where there are people
00:44 who like that it's a vipon world they
00:44 like that and and I don't know that we
00:44 want to necessarily take it away from
00:44 people either so it's really going to
00:44 come down to what makes the most sense
00:44 for the population and the business and
00:44 and that's something that I I don't know
00:44 that
00:44 we could answer today yeah so yeah I
00:44 understand I understand um I for no
00:44 other reason then the event isn't even
00:44 over yet so let's let's do that first
00:44 you know yeah yeah yeah and I me not
00:44 just Cormier but the other 64-bit
00:44 servers whenever they when they happen
00:44 but I know me personally I would love to
00:44 see just as few as possible that that
00:44 can be handled without too many
00:44 performance issues because and I I I
00:44 think that's the intent
00:44 is the the intention okay great yeah
00:45 awesome all right so what do I have down
00:45 here next
00:45 um oh um I know you can't say this I'm
00:45 sure but have you all had any talks
00:45 about the server names and of the new
00:45 64-bit servers yes yes anything you can
00:45 say on that or no no no okay I I I saw a
00:45 couple weeks ago some kind of internal
00:45 survey going around of hey just let just
00:45 what do you think here's a list which
00:45 ones do you like you know that kind of
00:45 thing so all right that's about where we
00:45 are
00:45 okay so okay the next thing I wanted to
00:45 to ask you a little bit about I know you
00:45 can't talk a lot about it but Lam Moria
00:45 you all announced was the expansion for
00:45 this year and I just want to ask you
00:45 generally you know why did you all
00:45 decide to to go with lamoria this year
00:45 and wan to go back to ravenloft as a
00:45 campaign setting for a while and the
00:45 team has just been excited about lamia's
00:46 sort of Loreen story it's a little
00:46 more um
00:46 Frankenstein you know uh rather than
00:46 vampires not that there aren't vampires
00:46 but you know what I mean and and just it
00:46 seemed like a fun setting it was what
00:46 ultimately the team got passionate about
00:46 wanting to do and so that that's really
00:46 why we did it we wanted to go back
00:46 you've been wanting us to go back in
00:46 general we've been hearing plenty of
00:46 feedback of it would be cool to do
00:46 another Raven Loft thing and uh it just
00:46 all all fit together so no I I've been
00:46 really looking forward to to you all
00:46 going back there and I I thought you
00:46 would eventually uh I know I'm sure you
00:46 guys know that players love Raven Loft
00:46 and it's one of the most beloved
00:46 expansions you all have ever done for
00:46 sure yep so no definitely a good choice
00:46 um oh one thing when when the producers
00:46 letter dropped I actually posted on the
00:46 forums and then TOA responded to me
00:46 about this but why did all decide to go
00:46 with a full expansion because you all
00:47 have been doing the full and then mini
00:47 and alternating and then you went full
00:47 this year kind of we've been doing that
00:47 but I don't know that we ever fully even
00:47 established that right I know you guys
00:47 never like like confirm that that's
00:47 absolutely what you're going to do or
00:47 anything but that had been the pattern
00:47 is is all I'm saying as far as I'm aware
00:47 we're we're doing expansions and to some
00:47 extent whatever we called them to
00:47 players was the same amount of work okay
00:47 usually is how it ended up and so we're
00:47 kind of moving away from that as a
00:47 concept but okay that's not to say we
00:47 couldn't do variable pricing on
00:47 expansions or have one that's maybe a
00:47 little smaller that has different price
00:47 point but I think we're moving away from
00:47 this concept of which never really even
00:47 got fully established of of Minis and
00:47 regulars so well I know in the past when
00:47 when it was a mini at least the few that
00:47 were minis you all either had a
00:47 Wilderness or a raid but never both and
00:47 the fulls have always has been both has
00:47 seemed to be the main difference to me
00:48 yeah right that did seem to be the main
00:48 difference
00:48 um yeah but okay like I say it's not to
00:48 say that we wouldn't have something that
00:48 maybe due to whatever content was
00:48 included would have a different price
00:48 point than what has become these days
00:48 the standard but I think in terms of is
00:48 this year a mini or not I think it's
00:48 just it's an expansion and we'll have
00:48 more info about okay you you'll see the
00:48 list and you'll see the price point and
00:48 that's what it'll you know yeah float
00:48 asks are are two raid expansions going
00:48 to happen again is that something you
00:48 all would ever consider doing again like
00:48 two two raids and an expansion I'm just
00:48 curious to someone like CU raiding is my
00:48 favorite thing to do in DDO personally
00:48 so anytime you all announce a raid or or
00:48 multiple raids I'm always hyped about it
00:48 I think we have found that trying to fit
00:48 two raids into an expansion development
00:48 schedule can be really tricky and we
00:48 haven't been particularly successful at
00:48 launching these things on time when
00:48 we've done multiple
00:49 raids but we like doing them and so I
00:49 think it really comes down to well and
00:49 do we want development to be roughly
00:49 done a month after or do we want it to
00:49 take another four months you know what I
00:49 mean so sometimes we have to make those
00:49 hard decisions on content of well can we
00:49 fit two raids into this and if we do
00:49 even want to if sometimes we want to do
00:49 one Post Release because you want that
00:49 extra beat or whatever but can we
00:49 actually fit that into the schedule and
00:49 everything and so you know I would never
00:49 say never on that but in general It's
00:49 tricky to successfully pull off two
00:49 raids in an expansion does it take a lot
00:49 more time to do a raid versus say like
00:49 like like what's what's faster to
00:49 develop generally generally like a raid
00:49 or say like three quests is that like
00:49 equivalent that's a good question I if I
00:49 would ask I would pose that question to
00:49 Someone Like A A torque or a
00:49 knockback i
00:49 I could give an answer and they would
00:49 slap me but I'm going to give it any
00:50 weight I would say I think that's
00:50 probably roughly about the same ballark
00:50 three quests as a raid because I know
00:50 personally for for say like myth tror I
00:50 would have loved to see you all do a
00:50 second raid in in exchange maybe do like
00:50 two less quests uh because I think that
00:50 for me myth tror and and I like a lot of
00:50 those quests but it's a lot and sorry
00:50 there's a siren going out my door might
00:50 be able to hear it um but um for me it's
00:50 like if I when I go to myror it's it's
00:50 especially with the Wilderness Area
00:50 running between the quests it takes
00:50 quite a while so I would have been okay
00:50 with say like a 12 Quest Saga and a
00:50 second raid even if the second raid was
00:50 was a short raid like say like a VOD or
00:50 or something like I would have been okay
00:50 right and that's what would complicates
00:50 that discussion a little bit as well
00:50 very much because you've got long quests
00:50 and short
00:50 raids MH so it really does come down to
00:50 well what what what size are we talking
00:50 about you know right so yeah
00:50 yeah um I'm I'm also very biased because
00:51 I I love raids and uh as I said you know
00:51 it's my it's my favorite thing in DDO is
00:51 is rating for sure we often introduce
00:51 Unique Mechanics and quests I mean
00:51 there's a whole bunch of quests out
00:51 there that stand alone for whatever
00:51 unique storytelling mechanical thing
00:51 happens in them but a lot of that really
00:51 is expected I think in a raid in a way
00:51 that doesn't exist maybe in the same way
00:51 would for a quest and so there it's not
00:51 just a matter of RAW graphics asset
00:51 combat encounters and all that you you
00:51 get into a a level of expectation where
00:51 you you want the rate to feel different
00:51 you want the rate to be different you
00:51 want the rate to have some kind of
00:51 feature to the fight that makes
00:51 it stand alone and and a lot of that can
00:51 can be very time consuming
00:51 so all right well um the next thing I
00:51 wanted to ask uh oh um well you you
00:51 probably can't tell us this yet either
00:52 but are you guys looking at a cap
00:52 increase this year anytime
00:52 soon because traditionally they'd been
00:52 with full
00:52 expansions I'm GNA have to defer that I
00:52 should know the answer to that but I
00:52 don't is the answer to that okay no
00:52 worries I want I don't want to be wrong
00:52 yeah I understand I as as we said before
00:52 we started I understand if you can't
00:52 can't say something or you you don't
00:52 want to speculate I get it you're kind
00:52 of you're in a I understand position
00:52 you're in so um all right so the next
00:52 thing coming well the next thing you you
00:52 all announced was uh damper so what made
00:52 you all choose damper I mean obviously
00:52 it goes along with the Raven LOF theme
00:52 but is there anything particularly
00:52 you're excited about yeah it's the Raven
00:52 Loft theme that's why on Dam damper
00:52 because we have a long list of things
00:52 we'd like to do and that list gets
00:52 pulled from regularly in addition to
00:52 being added to and since we wanted to do
00:52 Raven Loft they just kind of went down
00:52 the list and we're like well which one
00:52 do we want to do then and that's the one
00:53 that came up so um but ultimately it's
00:53 it's because of the the sort
00:53 of what kind of half vampire sort of
00:53 nature of of The Damp here so yeah do
00:53 you have any idea what um and maybe you
00:53 can't say this either but what direction
00:53 you want to take the race is it you want
00:53 to offer options for both melee and and
00:53 casting is it going to be more of one of
00:53 the other uh is there anything I don't
00:53 know I haven't yet seen the systems team
00:53 designed for it okay I can't speak to
00:53 that all right no worries uh let's see
00:53 next thing on my list here we already
00:53 talked about the progressively unlocking
00:53 event let's see oh um the new hardcore
00:53 like event was mentioned on the
00:53 producers letter there is some some
00:53 language there about there's Fay
00:53 Mischief a foot is there anything you
00:53 can say about
00:53 that probably not I mean I'm not asking
00:53 you to announce the details or anything
00:53 is there anything like what what made
00:54 you all decide to continue down this
00:54 this kind it really goes into the the
00:54 the longer term projects that have been
00:54 everything from the elith event to the
00:54 hardcore servers and in some ways even
00:54 going back to the old tent explosion of
00:54 2008 and everything right and
00:54 so it really comes down to we want we've
00:54 got some ideas because we want to do a
00:54 hardcore like thing we know that players
00:54 like hardcore but we also know that the
00:54 individual hardcore
00:54 servers have impacts not just on
00:54 hardcore players but on their friends
00:54 and people on the other servers as well
00:54 and the players are well aware of that
00:54 as well years worth of forum discussions
00:54 on the topic right
00:54 so the idea in we've done things like
00:54 lanterns in The Mists and and other
00:54 events on the regular servers
00:54 where you can kind of opt into this
00:55 difficulty and opt into that and we've
00:55 been playing on the edges of that for a
00:55 while and so there's some thinking
00:55 of what would a more what would a hard
00:55 an opt-in hardcore on the live worlds
00:55 look like as an event
00:55 and except I don't think we're quite
00:55 going that far either and so like I say
00:55 we're still it's still going to be an
00:55 experiment it's still going to be in the
00:55 process I don't I think if you're saying
00:55 I want exactly a new hardcore server I
00:55 don't know that this is 100% going to
00:55 fit that but I think the intention is to
00:55 try to make a whole bunch of people
00:55 happy and have a good time uh and do
00:55 something special later this year so
00:55 yeah and it seems to me like you guys
00:55 are you really want to thread that
00:55 needle of giving the hardcore experience
00:55 but also not uh not draining the servers
00:55 by creating a separate server for it uh
00:55 for for me just when I looked at it I
00:55 think the thing that I would like to see
00:55 you all do more do a little differently
00:55 next time and you all mentioned this in
00:55 the well too mentioned this in the
00:56 letter but but if you're going to offer
00:56 a hardcore Lantern there has to be
00:56 something super shiny and super special
00:56 to go for more than just you know just
00:56 the the same thing with a little skull
00:56 on it I I know a lot of players want to
00:56 see like I thought it would have been a
00:56 lot of more players would have engaged
00:56 with the hardcore Lantern aspect of it
00:56 if uh if they were say like instead of
00:56 the because you all had the panther
00:56 right or no it was um saber-tooth tiger
00:56 I think it was yeah if you had like say
00:56 a an undead saber-tooth tiger maybe for
00:56 the hardcore route in instead of just
00:56 the skull on the side I think you would
00:56 have seen a lot more players get
00:56 interested in it
00:56 so like completely different cosme maybe
00:56 I mean the same thing but just a
00:56 completely different skin on it I think
00:56 would attract a lot more players cuz
00:56 what players players want to show off
00:56 that they completed that challenge and
00:56 if it's just a little skull you know on
00:56 the side it's just not compelling enough
00:56 yeah we got that feedback loud and clear
00:56 that was pretty pretty clear I think at
00:56 the I think as a bare minimum in the
00:56 future that Shield's going to be a whole
00:57 heck of a lot bigger yeah but where I
00:57 think in general that is what we would
00:57 like to lean into as well is is make it
00:57 look from a distance you're going to
00:57 know that that person did the hardcore
00:57 right so
00:57 okay so some of the other things that
00:57 were that were mentioned and some of the
00:57 recent things that were released the
00:57 first one was the let's see the new Arch
00:57 type Dragon Disciple which is kind of a
00:57 Caster hybrid has slas that cost key
00:57 there's different dragon breath like
00:57 attacks and draconic burst you get to
00:57 choose your elements uh have have you
00:57 had any experience playing this yet I
00:57 don't know if you play it on live just a
00:57 little bit I've got a character in the
00:57 teens at the moment that that I've been
00:57 leveling up from one on a Dragon
00:57 Disciple and it's been going pretty fine
00:57 it's it's fun so yeah so you like it
00:57 yeah I do I do I um I have the one I
00:57 have been playing I have to admit is a
00:57 little more melee focused so I I am I
00:58 haven't quite wrapped my head around the
00:58 SLA part and the spellcasting part of
00:58 the Dragon Disciple yet other than the
00:58 basics of you want as much you want that
00:58 number to be as big as you can re spell
00:58 power you know and that kind of thing
00:58 um I have I have some learning to do but
00:58 yeah I think I haven't I've been playing
00:58 regular monk but I haven't played Dragon
00:58 deciple yet since uh it's released but I
00:58 think the way I would build it would be
00:58 to just kind of go straight Caster
00:58 focused and get a bunch of metam magics
00:58 take a bunch of metam magics and just
00:58 use the uh use the slas just the whole
00:58 way to to level 20 and then guess punch
00:58 stuff occasionally to get some key but
00:58 the key a me problem though as well
00:58 because especially because like I say
00:58 I'm only in I think I can't remember
00:58 what I am now 13 14 maybe something like
00:58 that I I don't really need to worry
00:58 about cast and spells so much to get
00:58 through that stuff it's not till later
00:58 that I really have to worry about it you
00:58 know what I mean so
00:59 yeah I I'm meleeing just fine through
00:59 the content so gotcha well regular monk
00:59 I can I can say more about so I
00:59 purposely went and rolled up a monk
00:59 really the first time I played monk
00:59 splashes before but I've never played
00:59 like straight monk really ever so say
00:59 like a month couple weeks before you all
00:59 did the uh release the changes on the
00:59 live servers I rolled up a month CU I
00:59 want to experience okay what's the old
00:59 monk like versus the new Monk and uh
00:59 yeah it's uh I'm I'm enjoying it it's
00:59 very strong the the healing is a lot
00:59 better uh the there's like a healing
00:59 Healing Hands I think it is one of the
00:59 the the light finishers that is now in
00:59 the tree is been a game Cher for the
00:59 character so it's been it's been really
00:59 strong I've been I've been enjoying it
00:59 it's uh I think it's going to be very
00:59 meta I I've at this point I've really
00:59 just need to focus on what you're
00:59 telling me rather than what I'm supposed
00:59 to be telling anyone else on how to feel
00:59 about Dragon Disciple and monk so that's
01:00 really what I've been doing is really
01:00 focusing on what what other people have
01:00 been saying about the monk I'm not a
01:00 monk expert either yeah no I'm I'm not
01:00 and I'm I'm it's a it's a challenging
01:00 class to play because there's so many
01:00 different active abilities you have
01:00 access to which makes it really strong
01:00 and that basically any different type of
01:00 mob in the game a monk can can lock down
01:00 cuz you've got like Jade for for say
01:00 Undead and you've got stunning fist for
01:00 for more fleshy monsters and there
01:00 there's a lot of options that monk has
01:00 and it's it's I think one of the more
01:00 one of the hardest if not the hardest
01:00 class to play in the game in terms of
01:00 skill cap but it's also extremely
01:00 rewarding if you have that
01:00 skill but uh no I've I've I've been
01:00 enjoying
01:00 it um I guess the next thing I wanted to
01:00 mention was uh the changes oh this was
01:00 this was I think a big one the changes
01:00 to reincarnation XP M so previously
01:00 before these changes it required for
01:01 your first life 1.9 million XP to get to
01:01 level 20 second life 2.85 million third
01:01 in all subsequent lives 3.8 so this was
01:01 changed to now your first through fourth
01:01 lives require 1.9 million XP to get to
01:01 20 Fifth Sixth and sth require the 2.85
01:01 million and then all subsequent lives
01:01 are 3.8 and above so it's going to be a
01:01 lot easier for new car characters to to
01:01 level and get their second and third P
01:01 life it's quite a bit less punishing yes
01:01 yeah and it also makes it less punishing
01:01 to get to the 32 point
01:01 builds yeah so that's the other thing I
01:01 was going to ask you still get say 28 to
01:01 34 on your second life right even though
01:01 the XP is same right structurally it's
01:01 all staying the same it's just that
01:01 number just the XP number is being
01:01 adjusted okay cool yeah I think this is
01:01 going to be huge for for new players for
01:01 sure uh especially second third life
01:02 because you think if you're say a
01:02 free-to-play player and you unlock that
01:02 Elite uh open on third life and you can
01:02 still only level with the 1.9 million
01:02 required that's going to be huge in
01:02 getting them to to catch up for sure
01:02 yeah yeah it's new players and players
01:02 who have generally not engaged with The
01:02 Reincarnation system as much maybe due
01:02 to the punishing nature of it um as you
01:02 state you know how many players of DDO
01:02 right now have more than you know four
01:02 lives on their characters right the
01:02 number is quite High um but there's a
01:02 large group as well that is does not
01:02 have that so we really wanted to help
01:02 out those folks and bring them in and
01:02 then also it's just a sheer reflection
01:02 of when true reincarnation started there
01:02 were these many classes and these how
01:02 many times could you reincarnate at
01:02 xstate versus now you know uh the number
01:02 has just grown so much higher with all
01:02 the release releases that we've done
01:03 over the years that it just made sense
01:03 to be less
01:03 restrictive um gu twitch chat if you
01:03 guys have any questions or any topics
01:03 you want us to talk about go ahead and
01:03 and post that right now because we're
01:03 getting to the end of my list of things
01:03 to talk
01:03 about um let's
01:03 see uh yakai ask is is there any talk
01:03 about the three-day timer not sure what
01:03 he's talking about probably the I guess
01:03 the raid timer
01:03 yeah I have not heard of any discussion
01:03 about removing the raid timer uh there
01:03 are reasons it's in place I don't know
01:03 that it has to be three days but at the
01:03 same time we are a business that sells
01:03 raid Tim or bypasses so you know I I
01:03 don't know I don't know is the answer on
01:03 that I certainly haven't heard anything
01:03 about it
01:03 um dilemma says also The Reincarnation
01:03 timer I'm not sure what the
01:03 reincarnation timer I I know there's a
01:04 timer I'm not sure what the link
01:04 is
01:04 um that is as much to do
01:04 with making sure data
01:04 stays in good condition as anything else
01:04 um you know there if we remov that all
01:04 together and someone was reincarnating
01:04 upon reincarnating and stuff that that
01:04 could cause all sorts of problems okay
01:04 so it's more for more for systems
01:04 systems well I mean there may be other
01:04 reasons too there's kind of maybe
01:04 gameplay balance and other reasons and
01:04 and anti fraud and other reasons like
01:04 that as well that that have that in
01:04 place but my guess is there's a bunch of
01:04 reasons why it's in place and and I
01:04 wouldn't see us changing that anytime
01:04 soon uh jabber says has SSG ever
01:04 considered a rans sack timer
01:04 bypass no it it hasn't come up uh I know
01:04 that I've seen the Forum threads we've
01:04 seen the Reddit thread
01:04 Etc
01:04 uh it's somewhat unusual I would say for
01:05 players to be like yes we like this pay
01:05 to win thing um and we haven't really
01:05 pulled the trigger on it uh so I don't
01:05 know I don't know maybe
01:05 someday if you I mean in some ways it's
01:05 like well if just don't tell the
01:05 executives right because it's like if
01:05 you're an executive and there's like
01:05 players want to do this okay you know
01:05 yeah what what are the reasons exactly
01:05 that that you all choose to have a rans
01:05 sack in the game I mean there's a bunch
01:05 of reason I mean there's a there's a
01:05 again a million reasons everything from
01:05 anti- exploit to uh you want players to
01:05 engage with the content more than just
01:05 one day you know things like
01:05 that okay um Jugger says when will
01:05 dragon lord might an order be fixed is
01:05 that the
01:05 trance I'm not sure what he's referring
01:05 to I think I think that's the trance I
01:05 have seen a forarm thread on that bug
01:06 but I have not I'm not really sure the
01:06 details of
01:06 it okay I haven't played a dragon lord
01:06 for I I've played a lot of Dragon Lord
01:06 but it's been okay he's saying for
01:06 strength and Charisma okay I I played a
01:06 lot of strength based dragon lord I
01:06 never saw a problem with it but maybe
01:06 it's something that happened
01:06 recently oh weai says Legend legendary
01:06 TR win probably not for a
01:06 while I don't think we would want to
01:06 consider that until we were done with
01:06 that level ban you know I if and when we
01:06 get to level well when we get to level
01:06 40 it'll happen somay that's what I
01:06 assumed then we'll do it because you all
01:06 have been slowly building up the the Sea
01:06 of content I guess you could say up to
01:06 40 so I I think the community's been
01:06 under the assumption by by the time we
01:06 get to level 40 that's when we'll see it
01:06 but I know with epic right you guys
01:06 introduced epic reincarnation when we I
01:06 think the cap was
01:06 28 I'm thinking did we I think I know
01:06 what fut Russell decide to do maybe
01:06 maybe we could do that at 38 or
01:07 something yeah because I was because
01:07 yeah yeah 28 to 20 was an epic
01:07 reincarnation for a while um yeah so
01:07 some people are yeah some people are
01:07 mentioning oh it only lets you train up
01:07 so the apparently the dragon lord trance
01:07 only lets you train up to the first
01:07 tier must be a recent thing that
01:07 happened that's a systems bug I'm sure
01:07 I'm I'm sure there's a ticket on it uh
01:07 I've seen the Forum threads I'm sure
01:07 it's in
01:07 process I would expect it in the next
01:07 game update okay probably Big T asks how
01:07 is the general mood feeling around the
01:07 64-bit full transfers being ready on
01:07 time I don't think you all ever set a
01:07 date for that we have not we we have an
01:07 internal is it on time but there is no
01:07 external is it on time and and the
01:07 reason for that is is we have a lot of
01:07 work to do um not just
01:07 on the DDO side but we're rolling out
01:08 the servers on the lra side right now we
01:08 want to take the time to be like well
01:08 what can we learn for the DDO side from
01:08 what we just did and that is on top of
01:08 the work that we know we need to do to
01:08 allow for some kind of mechanism to
01:08 transfer guilds for one you know uh your
01:08 pet stable Mount stable all the as much
01:08 of the things that our account you know
01:08 server based
01:08 is can be transferred we want to be able
01:08 to let people transfer over and there's
01:08 a whole bunch of things that just simply
01:08 does not exist on the DDO side that is
01:08 in place on the Lord of the Ring Side on
01:08 the Lord of the Ring Side you click the
01:08 transfer button and it it'll just
01:08 um sell your premium houses and things
01:08 like that and then reive you stuff on
01:08 the other end that that technology
01:08 doesn't exist yet on the DDO side so we
01:08 have to do that work this spring but the
01:09 intent though the intent though is to
01:09 let people transfer everything even is
01:09 it guilds and stuff included is that the
01:09 intent we'll see but yeah we want to be
01:09 as generous as possible with it um
01:09 because we want you to be able to bring
01:09 over the stuff that you need to bring
01:09 over uh it's possible for example on
01:09 astral shards we could be like well you
01:09 have tox state to spend it down
01:09 we could but even so we don't have to if
01:09 we don't want to you know I mean we'll
01:09 see what we can do there right
01:09 so but for the most part we want people
01:09 to be able to do that a and probably fix
01:09 that monster manual in the process I
01:09 would assume yeah I've heard about that
01:09 of that there's some kind of bug when on
01:09 Monster manuals on
01:09 transfer right the because the the you
01:09 can't rearn monster manual rewards is
01:09 ultimately the issue with that now you
01:09 could say I didn't I'm not re earning it
01:09 I already earned it yes but the server
01:09 doesn't know that right so the server
01:10 needs a process by which to rearn it for
01:10 you and that's that's one of many things
01:10 that is going to have to get sorted
01:10 through and because of all that you know
01:10 we we have internal dates and times on
01:10 the calendar that we want to meet but we
01:10 don't know how how could we possibly
01:10 know to any kind of public facing way to
01:10 give a date at this point let's see what
01:10 happens with ler let's see what we can
01:10 learn from that meanwhile the work to do
01:10 everything I just said is
01:10 ongoing and the work to pick names order
01:10 Hardware sign those deals that you got
01:10 to sign all that stuff is underway and
01:10 as we get further along we'll know more
01:10 like what a real date is going to look
01:10 like okay gotcha it's done when it's
01:10 done yeah basically next week yeah next
01:10 week it will be done on August 2nd y
01:10 okay so just kidding guys if you're
01:11 listening we're just kidding okay uh DD
01:11 experience asks when is coven going to
01:11 raid with TCO
01:11 again I'm always down for raiding with
01:11 people I to be happy to yeah I know cozy
01:11 was trying to get you to raid with us a
01:11 couple weeks ago so if you're ever
01:11 around I really wanted unfortunately I
01:11 had another commitment at the time I I
01:11 had to do something right in the middle
01:11 of your your raid thing I understand
01:11 yeah you're were busy yeah and I was
01:11 raid at 3 p.m. uh Eastern on Atlantis
01:11 you're always welcome if you ever want
01:11 to join us y if you ever got need
01:11 something to do on a
01:11 Saturday yeah I I will say that's tough
01:11 right because I do live and breathe DD
01:11 all week long sometimes you do want to
01:11 have that time off a little bit well
01:11 yeah and that's what I was was thinking
01:11 when I when I asked you about you know
01:11 your job at the beginning when we were
01:11 talking cuz I in your shoes I don't know
01:11 like you'd want to get away from it
01:11 because it's your job I don't know if if
01:11 I'd want to if I would play as much uh C
01:11 just casually because I I am around it
01:12 all day so it's a weird it's a tough
01:12 position to be in I guess even though
01:12 you I'm sure you C to that is that as
01:12 you get into development and I can't
01:12 count myself as a developer per say
01:12 right I but I do have industry
01:12 understanding of that and playing the
01:12 game that you see get made is also its
01:12 own
01:12 reward so it kind of all balances out
01:12 really in the end
01:12 DD experience says we want Coven in our
01:12 r10 Riding the Storm Out no you don't I
01:12 mean depends if you want to win or
01:12 not I guess if you want a want a soul
01:12 Stone right to around yeah I couldn't
01:12 I've never run rtso and r10 I couldn't
01:12 imagine the the lightning damage I
01:12 promise not to deliberately kill
01:12 you that's about the best I can manage
01:12 so uh wolf Cobalt asks what is the
01:12 reason for having a commission on The
01:12 ashal Shard exchange oh he's talking
01:12 about oh you're talking about the fee
01:12 right I mean I think the answer is going
01:12 to be because their business and they
01:13 need to make money I
01:13 mean yeah and and longterm cycling out
01:13 of currency and and that sort of thing
01:13 so um let's see any other questions guys
01:13 in chat guys post them now because I
01:13 think we're at the end
01:13 here T experiences you'll be a rock star
01:13 we got this
01:13 okay well I think that's it for
01:13 questions so I I think we'll go ahead
01:13 and close things up here uh let's see oh
01:13 oh wait wait I I gotta ask you Nono
01:13 stuff I want to ask you about so you got
01:13 a vinyl record podcast with uh with dra
01:13 right I do some DD related it's DDO
01:13 adjacent uh has nothing to do with DDO
01:13 yet only because we haven't released a
01:13 DDO record you know I would love to if
01:13 we could uh but um yeah so for a couple
01:13 years now I'm a big vinyl nerd I've been
01:13 one for decades and turns out Dracula
01:13 from ddl players news is as well and for
01:14 a couple years now when I've been doing
01:14 guests on his show and stuff we've been
01:14 talking man we should do a vinyl podcast
01:14 and and finally this was the year that
01:14 had happened this past year so I guess
01:14 this past fall we we kicked it off and
01:14 we've been doing it not on a regular
01:14 schedule because it's really whenever
01:14 our schedules get together and we can
01:14 make it happen and yeah it's all about
01:14 music nerd we go deep this is this is
01:14 for if you're a record collector if
01:14 you've got a wall of CDs if you never
01:14 got rid of your eight tracks you know
01:14 this is the one for you so nice yeah
01:14 vinyl was something I've never really
01:14 had room for but I have I have a I do
01:14 have a lot of CDs and I'm a big music
01:14 person obviously so yeah yeah I would
01:14 imagine so but yeah I've been a vinyl
01:14 guy since before it was cool and then
01:14 I've been buying CDs since the 90s as
01:14 well so yeah and talking about a DDO
01:14 record that that would be that would be
01:14 really cool and I appreciate that you
01:14 guys release uh the music on YouTube I I
01:15 uh I don't know about anyone else but I
01:15 often will put that on when I'm at work
01:15 you know doing accounting number because
01:15 I'm an accountant that's my job but I do
01:15 like number crutching and I just put
01:15 that on on the side and it's nice it's
01:15 nice to have next year will be Doo's
01:15 20th anniversary yes it will be one of
01:15 the big check boxes on my 20th
01:15 anniversary list is some kind of music
01:15 release
01:15 Pro let's be real probably digital but
01:15 you know I I want to do another
01:15 soundtrack kind of thing like kind of
01:15 best of sort of thing if we can make it
01:15 happen so oh and I saw um this was
01:15 probably probably gosh probably a year
01:15 ago at this point but I know Bill
01:15 champagne I think did the like a rock
01:15 version of the dry than demigod that was
01:15 cool is there any reason why you all did
01:15 that was it just like something he
01:15 wanted to do just for fun okay yeah yeah
01:15 that was just for fun that was I mean it
01:15 was like we wanted to experiment with
01:15 the sound of it what if it was a rock
01:15 thing instead of whatever it ended up
01:15 being we have multiple takes right yeah
01:16 and so you could just kind of think of
01:16 it as like a bide or something like that
01:16 but that would be cool if like once like
01:16 maybe one in 10 times you run the raid
01:16 it does the rock version yeah that would
01:16 be
01:16 neat um yeah Druids fire says it was
01:16 awesome I love the dryads normal music
01:16 but that one was
01:16 legendary oh before I move on too much
01:16 let me do the actual YouTuber promo
01:16 thing oh yeah yeah I was going to you
01:16 can find the record players podcast at
01:16 youtube.com theere players channel the
01:16 record players Channel on
01:16 YouTube and uh we're on Tik Tok at the
01:16 record players I can't believe I was
01:16 able to grab that name no one had record
01:16 players on Tik Tok on Tik Tok wow but I
01:16 I didn't someone else already had it on
01:16 YouTube so or the record players Channel
01:16 on YouTube yeah and for anyone who
01:16 doesn't know dra who he does that
01:16 podcast with also has his own DDO
01:16 podcast DDO players news so you all can
01:16 go check that out as well oh and the
01:17 last thing I want to ask you about non
01:17 DDO stuff I know you do Atari YouTube
01:17 videos so I've watched some of your
01:17 stuff so you're a big Atari fan huh I am
01:17 I am an big Atari nerd uhari 2600 in
01:17 particular but I like everything and uh
01:17 yeah I've been I have a mock duck plays
01:17 games when I'm my nonprofessional gamer
01:17 handle is mock tuck it's been that for
01:17 20 some years now and so I've got a
01:17 personal YouTube channel where I just
01:17 really nerd out about Atari
01:17 stuff I haven't I've had I had to take a
01:17 break from it though about the last six
01:17 months or so just because life has been
01:17 too busy and I've been doing the record
01:17 players thing and and other things in my
01:17 life so that's a little on the slow side
01:17 these days but every now and then I'm
01:17 still doing stuff nice yeah Atari was a
01:17 little bit before my time I I did own
01:17 some of the compilations growing up that
01:17 were on like PS1 PS2 and I did play
01:17 those a lot but I was really into uh
01:17 like well lately I've been really into
01:17 NES I've been playing a lot of NES I
01:17 have a NES sitting behind me so and I I
01:18 have a second YouTube channel myself
01:18 where I will occasionally upload
01:18 something or stream something I just did
01:18 I just streamed a full playthrough of
01:18 Simon's Quest last week that was fun
01:18 well within reach I've got this this
01:18 thing is this thing is if I wanted to
01:18 sell it I'd probably make about a
01:18 thousand books on YouTube nice and this
01:18 is uh this is a butcherbilly reissue box
01:18 set of the 20 600 carts and uh that's
01:18 that's a nice Deo there too but that's
01:18 the kind of thing I get into on my
01:18 channel and that one is just mock duck
01:18 plays games so nice no I I uh like
01:18 growing up I really liked playing
01:18 Robotron that was I think a 5200 game
01:18 but I I really like playing Robotron and
01:18 then break out I I like and I like a lot
01:18 of the recharge games that they've
01:18 released on uh it's like Xbox or
01:18 Playstation
01:18 lately but um okay uh I think we'll go
01:18 ahead and and just close things out here
01:18 is there anything else that you want to
01:18 ask me or you want to you want to
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01:19 so okay cool uh all right then well guys
01:19 we'll get go ahead and end the podcast
01:19 for today uh as mentioned at the
01:19 beginning if you guys uh you guys can
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01:19 you again coven for for joining taking
01:19 the time I really appreciate it yeah
01:19 thanks have a good rest of your your
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