Axel's First Life R10 Paladin Tank

[Nickodeamous]

IMO human can be vol, which is a really good defensive clicky.
PDK can take shield deflection in racial tree potentially saving a feat & can go CKT & helm if you wanted to use bastard swords, such as ignition to help fit 4pc forbidden knowledge

I have been running a PDK no lives alt as pally tank for ages, will probably tr into human for the vol clicky tbh, but as always YMMV

Thanks! Yeah, I've never tried a tank and to be honest, was just gonna follow this build with all the gear, since I have it/and or the runes to get it. I see the vol clicky is nice for the con and the fortification though, so maybe it makes sense to just TR into a human pally.

What about dwarven pally? I've heard that's very solid as well. Thoughts?

Thanks again!

 

[Defunct]

Dwarf is for the bubble, or if you just prefer the race - I think @PraetorPlato is a better tank builder so could maybe have more informed input.

The challenge, especially on low lifers, is the AP spend & opportunity cost.

If you never want to deal with negative levels you need enough points in vistani, shadowdancer, or spend fili slots on 4pc purity.

If you want dreamscape for 5 second invulnerability you need to buy in quality hp from dwarf/wf/falconry so you don't need deific at 28.

Curse immunity need heart but you sacrifice an artifact filigree slot & so on.

 

[Nickodeamous]

Quick question on the Circle of Malevolence. In your video, you mention that you use it for the +25 Intimidate because its the highest in the game. I also noticed that helm already has +20 intim. Is there anything else with the Circle that makes it worth it, because I believe all the other gear has the other stats covered. I also found that the Legendary Celestial Emerald Ring has +10 insightful intim. So, if you take the helm +20 and the insight +10, you are at +30.

Is there something I am missing here? I dont know much about tanks, but it seems like the emerald ring is actually better if the only redeeming skill is intim on the Circle.

Thanks!
Nic

 

[Defunct]

Yeah it appears it's just the +5 base intimi

 

[Tdr]

hi, i'm a new player and was wondering can this build be used with other races?

 

[axel15810]

hi, i'm a new player and was wondering can this build be used with other races?

Yep. Some races are better for this build than others but there is nothing in the build that requires a certain race.

 

[DrinkGrog]

Any gear suggestions for non-raid items to fill in until I could farm the raids to get what I’m missing? I’d like to get a tank character set up to fill in for raids when needed.

 

[Defunct]

Any gear suggestions for non-raid items to fill in until I could farm the raids to get what I’m missing? I’d like to get a tank character set up to fill in for raids when needed.

Non-MD, nob-raid pally set:
GotG + 6pc winter (shield/boots/belt/bracers/i.fort ring/cloak) + gloryborn gloves + collective sight

Covers most of what you want for a tank set, but it is very outdated these days. Leaves 2nd ring, main hand and trinket free for say a dinobone ring artifact or saltmarsh spell absorb artifact (two headed platinum piece).

Dino main hand with +2 con & affirmation (or whatever) is probably not a bad starter.

 

[axel15810]

Any gear suggestions for non-raid items to fill in until I could farm the raids to get what I’m missing? I’d like to get a tank character set up to fill in for raids when needed.

Well, you can keep the same 3 set base I would think but you're really gonna have to tetris it out. MoD gloves are replaceable, just gives more intim, so can be replaced as discussed earlier in this thread.

The heart from VoD is so unique, hard to recommend a replacement for that. VoD is very easily shortmanned on hard, I would just try and farm that one out. It's an easy raid to pug out. Hopefully you have alts to bypass timers. Same with the cape, I don't know right now. You'll have to tetris that out. But again FoM is a very easy raid to pug, and it's short.

As above said dino affirmation can be used instead of the kukri in the mean time. PN is a pain to get a group for these days if relying on PUGs.

Not a raid item but I'm now using a Myth Drannor shield instead of the feywild bulwark shield. I should update OP. It's just a straight upgrade with a better legendary bonus to HP than the 10% winter 4th piece set bonus. You lose the blocking bonuses but I don't block much when I tank.

 

[axel15810]

Updated original post, for the MD Fallen Age shield I'm using now. Should have done that a while ago. It's basically a straight upgrade from the Feywild winter set shield. Golden Age shield would be even better, but I haven't bothered to farm it for this alt personally, it being a rare item and all. The Fallen Age version is plenty good enough.

 

[Surtr1]

Hey everyone, this is the tank I've been playing lately. Have found it to be effective for R10 quest tanking and commonly run raid difficulties like Hard and R1. Might be fine for mid skull raids too possibly but haven't played it much on those difficulties yet. But does well for the common raid difficulties and R10 quests. Shoutout to @Phloat for doing the bulk of the gear planning. I've posted the build below but I recommend listening to the video I made (see below) because it gives more details about the build and how to play it than the text post here.

Stats below are for 32 point build. If 28 point build, just keep in mind you need 13 base Dex for Spring Attack line.

Video timestamps:

0:00 Build Overview
7:58 Enhancements
13:17 Gear
18:28 Filigree
20:36 Stats


Character name: Axel's R10 First Life Pally Tank
Classes: 20 Paladin, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Human · · · · · · · ·Alignment: Lawful Good

· · ·Start Tome Final
Str:· · 12· · 0 · ·29
Dex:· · 14· · 0 · ·27
Con:· · 18· · 0 · ·66
Int:· · ·8· · 0 · ·12
Wis:· · ·8· · 0 · ·25
Cha:· · 14· · 0 · ·32

Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Paladin(1)· · · ·Standard: Tower Shield Proficiency
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Human Bonus: Dodge
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Follower of Faith: Follower of the Blood of Vol
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(4), Intimidate(4)
2 · · Paladin(2)· · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
3 · · Paladin(3)· · · ·Standard: Shield Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
4 · · Paladin(4)· · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
5 · · Paladin(5)· · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
6 · · Paladin(6)· · · ·Standard: Quicken Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Deity: The Blood is The Life
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
7 · · Paladin(7)· · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
8 · · Paladin(8)· · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
9 · · Paladin(9)· · · ·Standard: Improved Shield Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
10· · Paladin(10) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
11· · Paladin(11) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
12· · Paladin(12) · · ·Standard: Mobility
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
13· · Paladin(13) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
14· · Paladin(14) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
15· · Paladin(15) · · ·Standard: Greater Shield Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
16· · Paladin(16) · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
17· · Paladin(17) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
18· · Paladin(18) · · ·Standard: Spring Attack
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
19· · Paladin(19) · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
20· · Paladin(20) · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1), Intimidate(1)
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Toughness
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Shield Mastery
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Toughness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Elusive Target
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Deific Warding
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Constitution: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Bulwark of Defense
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of Celestia
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Legendary Toughness
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Constitution: +1 Level up

Equipped Gear Set: Standard
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Armor · · · · Legendary Watch Captain's Platemail · Drops in: Quest: The Same Old Song
· · · · · · · Green: +12 Diamond of Charisma
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Guardian of the Gates
Belt· · · · · Legendary Direbear Belt · Drops in: U48 Quest: Quid Pro Quo
· · · · · · · Green: +14 Sapphire of Dodge
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Boots · · · · Legendary Lightning Railworker's Boots· ·Drops in: Quest: Grand Theft Aureon, End chest
· · · · · · · Green: Sapphire of Greater Heroism
· · · · · · · Colorless: +2 Festive Charisma
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Bracers · · · Legendary Cold Iron Bracers · Drops in: U48 Quest: Immortality Lessons
· · · · · · · Green: +11 Diamond of Dexterity
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Cloak · · · · Page Regalia: Blasphemer's Manuscript · Drops in: Raid: Fire Over Morgrave, end chest
· · · · · · · Lost Purpose: Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
· · · · · · · Green: +17 Diamond of Heal
· · · · · · · Yellow: +1 Diamond of Exceptional Charisma
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
Gloves· · · · Legendary The Dark Six-Fingered Glove · Drops in: Quest: The Evil We Know, End chest
· · · · · · · Green: +1 Diamond of Exceptional Constitution
· · · · · · · Colorless: +14 Diamond of Constitution
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Goggles · · · Legendary Eyes of Enlightenment · Drops in: Quest: Law and Order, End chest
· · · · · · · Green: Essence of the Champion of the Twins
· · · · · · · Colorless: +14 Diamond of Strength
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Helmet· · · · Legendary Standard Issue Faceplate· ·Drops in: Quest: Just Business
· · · · · · · Blue: +22 Sapphire of Accuracy
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Guardian of the Gates
Necklace· · · Legendary Standard Issue Sigil· ·Drops in: Quest: No Refunds
· · · · · · · Green: Essence of Ultimatum
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Guardian of the Gates
Ring1 · · · · Circle of Malevolence · Drops in: Raid: The Mark of Death
· · · · · · · Yellow: +11 Topaz of Damage
· · · · · · · Green: +2 Festive Constitution
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
Ring2 · · · · Legendary Nocturne Ring · Drops in: U48 Quest: A Frosty Reception
· · · · · · · Green: +15 Topaz of Swiftness
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Trinket · · · The Heart of Suulomades · Drops in: U47 Raid: Legendary Vision of Destruction.
· · · · · · · Blue: +2 Sapphire of Armored Agility
· · · · · · · Green: Essence of the Dethek Runestone
· · · · · · · Yellow: Legendary Swordcrossed Topaz
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Mantle of Suulomades
· · · · · · · Filigree 1: Nystul's Mystical Defence: Constitution
· · · · · · · Filigree 2: Snake Bite/Grandfather's Shield: +2 Constitution
· · · · · · · Filigree 3: Soulweaver/Splendid Cacophony: +2 Constitution
Weapon1 · · · The Labrythine Edge · Drops in: Raid: Project Nemesis
· · · · · · · Nearly Finished: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Completed Weapon: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Red: +153 Ruby of Positive Spell Power
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Sentient Weapon Personality: Sentient Jewel of the Hopeful
· · · · · · · Filigree 1: Nystul's Mystical Defence: Constitution
· · · · · · · Filigree 2: Nystul's Mystical Defence: Acid Absorption
· · · · · · · Filigree 3: Nystul's Mystical Defence: Electric Absorption
· · · · · · · Filigree 4: Snake Bite/Grandfather's Shield: +2 Constitution
· · · · · · · Filigree 5: Soulweaver/Splendid Cacophony: +2 Constitution
Weapon2 · · · Legendary Tower Shield of the Fallen Age (or Golden Age) · Drops in: Portal to Below
· · · · · · · Purple: Legendary Silvertongue Sapphire
· · · · · · · Orange: Empty Augment Slot
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
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I just finished 3x lives of Barbarian and started my first Paladin life. I am lvl 3 now. I started with 18 Str 8 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 12 Wis and 14 Cha. I selected THF, Power Attack, and Cleave as feats. I believe my feats are all wrong. Can you offer a suggestion of feats and enhancements in that condition? Should I trade Cleave and Power Attack for other feats? I wanted to go KotC, but I just watched a video of a Str based Paladin that used mostly defensive enhancements soloing r6. Now I don't know what I should do.

 

[axel15810]

I just finished 3x lives of Barbarian and started my first Paladin life. I am lvl 3 now. I started with 18 Str 8 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 12 Wis and 14 Cha. I selected THF, Power Attack, and Cleave as feats. I believe my feats are all wrong. Can you offer a suggestion of feats and enhancements in that condition? Should I trade Cleave and Power Attack for other feats? I wanted to go KotC, but I just watched a video of a Str based Paladin that used mostly defensive enhancements soloing r6. Now I don't know what I should do.

Well this thread is for a tank, I have a build for a first life THF DPS pally here though if that's what you are looking to do: https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?th...-starting-build-and-guide-free-to-play.14646/

So the feats listed there is what I'd suggest. You can swap out cleave for stunning blow using the free feat swap from the Hall of the Mark quest in the marketplace if you want, and be right on track with that build. Power attack is fine on a THF pally, you can swap it out later for precision if you want if you get to legendaries/raids and need more to hit.

 

[Rhunah]

I just finished 3x lives of Barbarian and started my first Paladin life. I am lvl 3 now. I started with 18 Str 8 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 12 Wis and 14 Cha. I selected THF, Power Attack, and Cleave as feats. I believe my feats are all wrong. Can you offer a suggestion of feats and enhancements in that condition? Should I trade Cleave and Power Attack for other feats? I wanted to go KotC, but I just watched a video of a Str based Paladin that used mostly defensive enhancements soloing r6. Now I don't know what I should do.

https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/f2p-beginner-thf-paladin.14373/

This guide is just right for you. As a beginner, don't follow guides that have tank/endgame or reaper in the title, rather FtP or beginner friendly.
Cleave as a feat is ok, not optimal but ok. As a paladin you usually don't take it because there are enough AOE attacks in the KofC tree.
Character building in DDO is very flexible and at low difficulty levels everything works somehow. Don't be annoyed by supposed mistakes, it's not tragic and you can change it again in the next life.

Axel was quicker

 

[Stuk]

OOOH gotcha. I thought you were referring to the filigree you buy with threads, not the set aug ones. Hmm I don't think I can fit it in since it overrides other set bonuses and I currently have 11 of 14 occupied with 4 piece winter, 4 piece vecna and 3 piece sharn. So only open slots for it would be circle ring, heart trinket and kukri. I would have to give up red slot on weapon so I'd have to figure out some way to get in positive spellpower elsewhere.

I entered the listed set into a gear planner, and both it and I count only 3 Eminence of Winter items. How do you get 4 set pieces in this collection of gear? I am counting the belt (leg. dire wolf), bracers (leg. cold iron), and one ring (nocturne). What's the fourth? I see on your tooltip the game sees you have four, I just can't figure out how!
Thanks in advance

 

[axel15810]

I entered the listed set into a gear planner, and both it and I count only 3 Eminence of Winter items. How do you get 4 set pieces in this collection of gear? I am counting the belt (leg. dire wolf), bracers (leg. cold iron), and one ring (nocturne). What's the fourth? I see on your tooltip the game sees you have four, I just can't figure out how!
Thanks in advance

It was the winter tower shield, but's only a 3 piece winter set now - I moved the gearset from 4 piece winter to 3 piece after MD came out by replacing the winter shield with the fallen age shield since that upgraded the 10% legendary HP bonus with a 20% one.

 

[Challe]

It was the winter tower shield, but's only a 3 piece winter set now - I moved the gearset from 4 piece winter to 3 piece after MD came out by replacing the winter shield with the fallen age shield since that upgraded the 10% legendary HP bonus with a 20% one.

Are you still running this first life? Were there any additional gear updates since your last post? Can you drop the full build using the DDObuilder forum export function? Thank you for posting the original build (and the DPS Paladin - using to level before swapping to tank).

 

[axel15810]

Are you still running this first life? Were there any additional gear updates since your last post? Can you drop the full build using the DDObuilder forum export function? Thank you for posting the original build (and the DPS Paladin - using to level before swapping to tank).

I am, but I've not updated the gearset or updated the character in recent years.