Best 2023 Rogue2/Wizard18 Build for first life VIPs?

syrrys

Member
"Best" is relative but since you're VIP, you'd have Harper Agent. And if you think pure casters run out of SPs too quickly, I would do a THF Eldritch Knight / Pale Master.

A few comments:
  • 82 APs so without the tomes you'd drop human Spell Power Boost and a point from Pale Master or Assassin.
  • +2 STR tome is required for Improved/Greater THF. If you haven't got one by level 12, take a filler feat (Toughness or whatever) and swap in ITHF after you acquire the tome (either from loot or Favor).
  • +3 DEX tome is to trade Power Attack for Precision (hence starting DEX 10). This is optional but I prefer to use Precision on any non-Raging melee build. Alternatively you can either (A) dump-stat DEX and settle for Power Attack or (B) start DEX 13 INT 17 if you're less concerned with maxing your caster stat to start.
  • Vistani Knife Fighter is optional, you can also grab Haste Boost from Acrobat instead.
  • 8 APs Assassin is for +3 Imbue dice, you could also put those points into Pale Master for more caster bonuses like Unholy Avatar.
  • This is also doable as F2P: INT to hit from Eldritch Accuracy, STR to damage. Melee DPS is lower without Know the Angles + INT to damage; but silver lining is freeing up APs for other trees: e.g., 40 Eldritch Knight / 24 Pale Master / 8 Assassin / 8 Acrobat.
Thank you for this build! Quick question, why did you pick up the imbue from Assassin? Isn't the imbue from EK better, which also frees up those enhancement points? What am I missing here?
 

unbongwah

Well-known member
Quick question, why did you pick up the imbue from Assassin?
It's the AP tax to unlock Toxin Affinity (+3 Imbue Dice). You could skip it and put those APs into Pale Master instead for Undead Augmentation II (level 12 core) or Unholy Avatar (make undead vulnerable to Negative Energy).
 

syrrys

Member
It's the AP tax to unlock Toxin Affinity (+3 Imbue Dice). You could skip it and put those APs into Pale Master instead for Undead Augmentation II (level 12 core) or Unholy Avatar (make undead vulnerable to Negative Energy).
Ahhhhh, got it! Thank you for the quick response. +3 imbue is not nothing.
 
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