Christhemiss
Maker of Builds
threnal incompletable, citw basically impossible, any quest with lead npc has the ai so bricked the npcs just stand around doing nothing for dozens of seconds on end, and sometimes forever (threnal). citw is so bad rn
can we get an f in the chat for lead npc quests
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Christhemiss
Maker of Builds
THIS IS DEFINITELY FINE AND GOOD (ana spent 80% of the raid not exagerrating afk and doing nothing. i could solo this faster)
Svirfneblin
Well-known member
Coyle and Ana need a Red Bull.
To gore them in the rump when they stop moving.
To gore them in the rump when they stop moving.
Catholicon
It means "Panacea"
What's going wrong?
Tyran Thraxus
Well-known member
Is this where you escort Coyle's team to the door, but the NPC's stand in the sonic trap area? So annoying.
Jomee
Active member
Threnal is super annoying but it can be completed with patience. The AI pathing is severely broken in that quest, making the NPCs pause for 30 seconds every few steps. Not using hirelings seems to help with that pausing just a little bit.
Jellytelly
Active member
I had an issue with escorting Chief Engineer Heyward back up. He followed just fine for most of the quest, but close to the end, he just stopped. Everyone in party tried talking to him to stay and follow, stay and follow. But he just stood there doing nothing. Then miraculously like 5 minutes later, he decided he was ready to continue on and moved towards the entrance for completion without us doing anything else (as we had basically given up). But we were so close to just exiting out of the quest.
erethizon1
Well-known member
I'm just glad we finally managed to finish it. It was definitely an exercise in patience but luckily the group stuck together until she finally made it to the end.
THIS IS DEFINITELY FINE AND GOOD (ana spent 80% of the raid not exagerrating afk and doing nothing. i could solo this faster)
Christhemiss
Maker of Builds
2 weeks ago i ran threnal and coyole got stuck at the beginning of the quest multiple times, and we waited a good while before giving up. ran it yesterday and he seems to be working mostly so unsure what caused the first round of stuck. citw is possible, it just takes ages because ana gets stuck and doesnt move for minutes on end and she usually refuses to go through the barrier
Tanyajanfel
Well-known member
ran CITW a few times recently, its not ideal, but one thing that seemed to help is that, even though anna's follow sucks right now, she does teleport rather well. so whoever she is following just runs as far ahead as possible, and she teleports to the next enemy spawn point, you kill them, and then repeat. the last orb, and the barrier were still and issue, but maybe we got lucky on those as they only took about a minute or so for her to get on, or walk through.
i was also curious about solo, vs a full group, and if that made a difference. even thought about soloing to the end, and then having everyone come in.
i was also curious about solo, vs a full group, and if that made a difference. even thought about soloing to the end, and then having everyone come in.
Bjond
Well-known member
I used to do this for CITW farms. It works pretty good, but it does require a healthy server population. I took a look at the online in-level list and panned that idea this time.
Alternative
Sarcasm elemental
Yeah it doesn't help when half the group keeps clicking on Ana, resetting her AI all the time.
Just ran Lost Thread solo and everything was fine. It's in groups that she keeps getting stuck.
Jellytelly
Active member
Tried to run Beyond the Rift just now. Elminster won't budge. Tried twice. :( At least this happens right at the start of the quest so you don't waste your time running the quest.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
It happens solo too. It's just hit or miss when pathing bugs.
Christhemiss
Maker of Builds
glad to see the optional in sleeping with the fishes has this problem. often the npcs go totally braindead and takes ages to get them to meet together. would be a 10/10 optional if it worked as intended but in its current state its just awful
THIS IS DEFINITELY FINE AND GOOD (ana spent 80% of the raid not exagerrating afk and doing nothing. i could solo this faster)
Did an EE CITW the other day with 5 people and it took 46? minutes? I joined when they were half done. Ana seemed okay. Getting people to kill the portal keepers was the problem. Every time the final barrier would drop they would zerg through leaving 2 of us to run around and try to kill all the portal keepers at the same time so the barrier would drop - then the 3 guys behind the barrier would come out, and then next time they saw it drop they would zerg through - without grabbing Ana of course.
Ana had one moment where she wouldnt move but I think it was because not all the mobs had been killed.
Overall the players caused far more delays than Ana. Though I wasnt there for the first half of the raid so cant speak to that.
From my perspective it felt reasonably quick other than the last part with people simply not doing the right thing and not even asking what to do (always amazes me that people wont ask what to do - its going to be obvious anyway).
Christhemiss
Maker of Builds
and that is relevant to this thread how
Ahh, youre only after people posting stories about things that went wrong and not interested in a broader discussion which includes examples of things going right.
Maybe you should update your initial post to say "Only bad stories allowed".