Dandonk
Beater of Dead Horses
Funfun.... or something...
Chill of Ravenloft Loot Overview
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all the voices in my head are my own
knowing the actual rarity value is not as valuable as knowing if that the number is to high or to low for the typical player. and getting fixated on a specific number is not helpful as most folks don't know their number and many folks have a range of acceptability.
the important numbers that SSG has been looking at are:
still, it's fairly clear that SSG plans to maximize profits and make very minor changes until they find a balance of income to rarity.
but if you want a real number, then given that we went from a chance of 1 in 2500(original MD), to 1 in 1250 (release 72.1), I suspect the next jump to be around 1 in 800. I'd guess my range of acceptability to be 1 in 100.
the important numbers that SSG has been looking at are:
- *existing data* - chest re-rolls (profit)
- *existing data* - chest re-play ability
- *new data* - will existing customers buy expansions knowing about the rarity issue (remember MD was a complete surprise & I think we can see why)
still, it's fairly clear that SSG plans to maximize profits and make very minor changes until they find a balance of income to rarity.
but if you want a real number, then given that we went from a chance of 1 in 2500(original MD), to 1 in 1250 (release 72.1), I suspect the next jump to be around 1 in 800. I'd guess my range of acceptability to be 1 in 100.
I went through the trouble camping The Autumn Equinox only to find out it doesn’t seem to work with Ignition for some dam reason. It’s spent 4 months trying that and now I’m camping it on another toon
GrizzlyOso
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It might make people feel *special* if something on or about rare items actually indicated they were rare . Steal colors from Diablo if you need some inspiration. Also you could put “(rare)”
seph1roth5
Well-known member
I wonder if they'll ever put in something worse than btc lol. If anyone can find it it's ssg! Maybe btc but disappears after 3 hours? Or lasts for 1 quest then you have to go to hall of heroes and get the item again?
But ya, they have a wildly inaccurate idea of what players want/what's fun. Any time people beg for less btc stuff, they have a response along the lines of "Well it's a raid, raid gear is better, so to keep it balanced it has to be btc." Even though a raid is just more difficult in general, and that should be enough to balance it out. Kind of like the purple names in wilderness being much harder than normal rares. That should be enough to warrant it having better drops, it shouldn't ALSO have rare drops. Most people can't just waltz into MD and solo the worm. Some can, but not most lol.
Artifacts are limited to one equipped at a time, why are there ALSO rare artifacts? It's 1000% obvious to most people that it's just an artificial way of forcing you to play more, by making the things you want harder to get. I get they're a company and need to make $$ and all that, but pretty sure people loved ravenloft, sharn, and feywild just fine.
Feytwisted was a great idea, and there are some items in there people definitely want, but it's suuuuuper rare, if at all, that I see someone saying they've been hunting a specific feytwisted item for months and, with other people, pulled hundreds of times/rerolls and not seen it.
Necrodancer
Ancient beyond measure
It's called server transfer, July 9th will be lit or, at very least, TR caches will be
Solarpower
Well-known member
TR caches transfer for years already and cause a huge pain in the neck on Lamannia...TR caches will be
Mnemor
Contract devil
Devs, it's awful that you continue to want to continue with rare loot without explaining how you intend to handle it in the new expansion.
I hope you've at least learned from your mistakes. The problem isn't so much the rare loot itself, but the lack of mechanisms to avoid relying exclusively on luck (I suppose you think that if there are any, it's not rare anymore, but devs, the situation sucks and it's going to cost you money), as well as the fact that most rare items in MD shouldn't be rare.
Improved versions of existing items, okay, that's possible, although for that we already have Mythic, Reaper, and Curse. How many times do you want to reinvent the wheel?
Unique items like jibbers, which aren't part of sets? Okay, that's fine.
Unique weapons, like SoS. Maybe, depending on how you implement it. But keep in mind that you're still increasing the cap. Items become more obsolete with each new expansion. Limit rarity, because getting a rare item when it's already obsolete is pathetic. And it annoys players.
I hope you've at least learned from your mistakes. The problem isn't so much the rare loot itself, but the lack of mechanisms to avoid relying exclusively on luck (I suppose you think that if there are any, it's not rare anymore, but devs, the situation sucks and it's going to cost you money), as well as the fact that most rare items in MD shouldn't be rare.
Improved versions of existing items, okay, that's possible, although for that we already have Mythic, Reaper, and Curse. How many times do you want to reinvent the wheel?
Unique items like jibbers, which aren't part of sets? Okay, that's fine.
Unique weapons, like SoS. Maybe, depending on how you implement it. But keep in mind that you're still increasing the cap. Items become more obsolete with each new expansion. Limit rarity, because getting a rare item when it's already obsolete is pathetic. And it annoys players.
please do not make anything like art/crownblade cloak drops in Goranthanil. I must have easily done 200 - 250 runs on Goranthanil -- WITH ALL ALLOWABLE REROLLS in every single attempt, in addition to having Treasure hunters every time and as many Discovery Boosts as i could, and not a single Cloak of the Artblade (also 3 guildmates hands in the chest for at least 70% of those) and ZERO. I do not want another Band of the Holy Way thank you very much LOL. I mean does "class specific" loot actually work?
Frieling Slyhand
Well-known member
Yes! This was the only rare gear item I pulled and I can’t even use it! Would love to see it fixed.
J1NG
I can do things others can't...
Had a quick gander at this pulling out the one pulled the other day.
To be specific, only the Crown of Summer effect is bugged and it is individually bugged, as in, it's bugged for this specific items version of the effect. Other items with Crown of Summer (like the Feywilds Legendary Crown of Butterflies) works properly.
Essentially it is experiencing the same as last times Improved Deception issue which was found to impact on the Feywild Vinelash Bracers (where it was the only item with Improved Deception that was not doing any Improved Deception at all of any kind) but any other item with the older or new Improved Deception effect worked fine. Only this time, it's swap the effect of Improved Deception for Crown of Summer and for this item "Legendary Helm of the Warblade" instead.
J1NG
rabidfox
The People's Champion
Fun fact, when MD launched, (legendary and heroic) Helm of the Sun's Wrath also had a bugged crown of summer. Both the Helm of the Warblade and Helm of the Sun's Wrath were bug reported, but only Sun's Wrath got fixed, helm of warblade slipped thru the cracks.
Frieling Slyhand
Well-known member
Right! And this is why it seems to me it should be an easy fix. Just copy and paste the code from those items where the effect works!
july 15thIt's called server transfer, July 9th will be lit or, at very least, TR caches will be
PersonMan
Well-known member
Yes.
Warblade does not have
just the text following that.
Clearly we are being buffed with the description for Crown of Summer and not the effect,
Kitty2Meow
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Even the Rare drop rates had been increased in update 71.2, it is still very rare that you don't really feel the difference.
If a Rare item has a drop rate of 1/800, even if you increase the drop rate by 20%, it is still very rare because the drop rate from the beginning is very very low.
Since it will be a crafting system, is it possible to use a lots more of materials to craft the rare item instead?