Combat): You attack The Five Fangs. You roll a 6 (+191): you miss!
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Leumas Reyemreggin
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thats Just melee because for whatever reason Melee and ranged to hit work differently 
my effective 175 grazes on a 2 (maybe)
my effective 175 grazes on a 2 (maybe)
Mechgraber
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Looks reasonable to me.
For far, far too long, the general advice was "just get your attack to an OK level and you'll hit on a 2, so focus entirely on damage".
While seeing any grazing blows is morally reprehensible and I feel your pain, high to-hit builds should also be rewarded. 191 is not terrible, but a bit low. If you were grazing on a 6 with a 220 or something...OK, different conversation. It also rewards teamwork and makes buffing actually matter. When was the last time pugs coordinated buffing to-hit? Possibly a decade.
For far, far too long, the general advice was "just get your attack to an OK level and you'll hit on a 2, so focus entirely on damage".
While seeing any grazing blows is morally reprehensible and I feel your pain, high to-hit builds should also be rewarded. 191 is not terrible, but a bit low. If you were grazing on a 6 with a 220 or something...OK, different conversation. It also rewards teamwork and makes buffing actually matter. When was the last time pugs coordinated buffing to-hit? Possibly a decade.
PersonMan
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With the example Blade Master enemy you would need roughly a +315 to hit to still graze it on a 6. Perhaps we need some more % bonus to hit from abilities to toss into the formula to overcome the *2 that AC gets.
+10.5 vs *2 is becoming a problem.
plantpower
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This is how we make caster dps relevant in raids again 
Tyrande
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*coughs*This is how we make caster dps relevant in raids again
, what if the monster has billion of HP and the caster DPS went dry...?Here comes the dragon disciple caster DPS... since ki is infinite.
Or warlock, sure... if the raid leader can wait for the wimpy slow steady DPS...
rabidfox
The People's Champion
Start the raid on Wednesday afternoon so there's time to finish it before the next server restart the following week and a warlock party can push.
Monkey_Archer
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I see no issue. I've been reliably informed by some totally not delusional forumites that melee dps is 2-3 times higher than everything else. So you have nothing to complain about. :unsure:
Teh_Troll
Master of Baiting
are these the same "geniuses" who think monk is getting nerfed?
ChickenMobile
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I've never gotten a bonus this high, even when trying.
This is gonna be a smack in the face for more casual players. (assuming Troll played on normal)
Teh_Troll
Master of Baiting
It was R1
erethizon1
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I've found it is generally best to avoid all new content for at least a year until power creep has had a chance to catch up to the newer content. I've never regretted not participating in content when it was new.
Ying
5000+ hours played
Here's a breakdown from a pure Monk build I'm working on. Aside from the racial/class bonuses, you're probably missing several important sources.
Weapon To-Hit:
020 Class Base Attack Bonus (handwraps)
005 Epic Base Attack Bonus
015 Weapon enhancement
024 Accuracy item
023 Insightful Accuracy
046 WIS bonus
003 Aasimar: Fight the Wicked 3
001 Harper Agent of Good
004 Shintao Studies 4
003 Shinto Meditation of War
004 Fury of the Wild: Spirit of the Beast
004 Morale: Greater Heroism augment
002 Guild Ship Proving Ground
002 Potion of Prowess
002 Legendary Dreadnought: Weaponmaster
003 Fighter past life x3
003 Dragon Disciple past life x3
003 Arcane Enchant Weapon past lives x3
006 Primal Past Life: Ancient Power past lives x3
002 Scion of Arborea feat
003 Shattered Device 2pc bonus
001 Reaper’s Offense I
001 Reaper’s Offense II
002 Reaper’s Offense IV
010 Eerie Aim feat
-02 Yugo pot (Essence of Betrayal)
–
190 to-hit when face tanking
004 Legendary Dreadnought: Backstab (flanking)
005 Henshin Way of the Faithful Hound (flanking)
001 Harper Agent of Good (vs Evil target)
003 Dark Hunter past life x3 (sneak attack)
001 Ninja Spy Sneak Attack Training 3 (sneak attack)
006 Essence of Betrayal potion (sneak attack)
012 Deception item (sneak attack)
006 Insightful Deception (sneak attack)
003 Quality Deception (sneak attack)
–
231 to-hit when sneak attacking
Also, consider the AC debuffs on the mob.
Armor Class Debuffing:
15 Destruction (full stacks)
15 Terror (full stacks)
–
30
+10% AC reduction from Sunder
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Sophie The Cat Burglar
Exotic Items Recovery Specialist
The game is too easy!
Oh no. I missed.
The game is too hard!
Oh no. I missed.
The game is too hard!
Teh_Troll
Master of Baiting
Intelligent beings understand nuance and balance.
Would you like me to explain this to you in smaller words? I know mammals are easily confused.
Mnemor
Contract devil
Well, we're talking about devs who have no hands-on experience with the game. You guys complain that the game is too easy. How can you blame them for the high numbers?
Positive thinking
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Maybe they have been adjusting the AC targets to deal with inquisitive builds and at the same time nerf some other builds that werent balanced enough in SSG’s preferences to be focusing enough on to hit versus other abilities? I suspect melee’s could be hit with this and then have to move around some of their gear and trees to compensate, balancing them similar to what has happened to casters in the past.
We all have known that melee’s were going to be the next in the crosshairs, this maybe just the start of what is to come.
Teh_Troll
Master of Baiting
Point taken.