Complete Cleric DA guide

intravenous

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Hello,

Here is info I can provide.
I'm not good enough to create whole build alone. I need whole guidance how to level-by-level way. Where to put points etc.
If you need more info just say.

Btw: I can reset anything (if game support this reset).


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If your cleric is old you won't have a domain and you basically must do a lesser reincarnation. I ran into this problem when I came back to the game 3 years ago my cleric was from like 10 years before and they didn't have a domain at the time.
 

Kasicka

Member
If your cleric is old you won't have a domain and you basically must do a lesser reincarnation. I ran into this problem when I came back to the game 3 years ago my cleric was from like 10 years before and they didn't have a domain at the time.
Hello,

Yes I have reincarnation item in bag.
But I'm not sure if I use this item, this step will let me change everything I need to start new build.

As I wrote in previous post - I'm looking for cleric build good enough to level solo over lvl10. Because at lvl10 with my actual character I can't finish any instance which gives me XP and point.
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
Thnx for link.

I have two more questions.
1 - do I have use reincarnation on my old characer or create fresh new one?
2 - can you please export this build from planer and share it somewhere?

Have a nice day.
V.
I think I would use the lessor heart and continue playing with your character.

Try this link
Hello,

Yes I have reincarnation item in bag.
But I'm not sure if I use this item, this step will let me change everything I need to start new build.

As I wrote in previous post - I'm looking for cleric build good enough to level solo over lvl10. Because at lvl10 with my actual character I can't finish any instance which gives me XP and point.
The OP's Dark Apos is great for leveling.
In my build, I hope to stand better in endgame so I pick the protection domain which gives bubble and defence.

For pure leveling, I would recommend the death domain as OP wrote, or Fire domain for fire storm. For these 2 domain choice, it is better to stay pure but 19clr/1ftr is also ok for a 1-30 leveling.

Or you can still use my build and pick fire domain and get better leveling.

In case you dont know what DA is.
Please check this
https://ddowiki.com/page/Dark_Apostate
The important difference is you can be undead and harm yourself to heal. Throwing a mass inflict wound is healing yourself too.
You get a finger of death to instant kill
At the same time you can still throw a loads of holy smite as I wrote before.
 

Kasicka

Member
Hello,

I did reincarnation. I don't know why but I can't select Search Soul Deity (at lvl7).
Not sure with skills - there are more possibilities than I can select every level. So I select every second level other two skills.
Same with bonus stats after reincarnation. I can't put more to WIS so I spend them to other ones.

Now I have character done. Just don't know which weapon I have to use. Shield + some 1H weapon?
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
Hello,

I did reincarnation. I don't know why but I can't select Search Soul Deity (at lvl7).
Not sure with skills - there are more possibilities than I can select every level. So I select every second level other two skills.
Same with bonus stats after reincarnation. I can't put more to WIS so I spend them to other ones.

Now I have character done. Just don't know which weapon I have to use. Shield + some 1H weapon?
Lv6 cleric feat is granted from your choice of deity at lv1
Heal and UMD are the important skill.
Not sure what you mean bonus stat

If you wanna go caster to level up, caster club and orb or dual club could work. There is a free Ravenloft lv10 stick as a good start (if you have the pack)
 

Kasicka

Member
Heal and UMD are the important skill.
Not sure what you mean bonus stat

If you wanna go caster to level up, caster club and orb or dual club could work. There is a free Ravenloft lv10 stick as a good start (if you have the pack)
With bonus stats I mean build point. After reincarnation got 32 point. WIS already at CAP. So I put them to CON and CHA.
About skills. I think skills marked with green (in builder) mean what I have to prefer.
So I have all in Concentration, Diplomacy, Heal and Spellcraft.
Did I gimped my character a lot?

btw: I try to find 'Ravenloft lv10 stick'. No success. Is there any item DB online for DDO?
 
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Hakoist

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With bonus stats I mean build point. After reincarnation got 32 point. WIS already at CAP. So I put them to CON and CHA.
About skills. I think skills marked with green (in builder) mean what I have to prefer.
So I have all in Concentration, Diplomacy, Heal and Spellcraft.
Did I gimped my character a lot?

btw: I try to find 'Ravenloft lv10 stick'. No success. Is there any item DB online for DDO?
Wis con cha is fine
Heal and spell craft are nice, skill doesn’t matter too much. UMD is mainly for teleport so I always put points into UMD no matter what character.

This is the stick:
This is a great starter because you can just get it if you have the pack.
 

Frantik

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I like Death Domain, and the negative SLA hits very hard with a shortish CD. But since Dark Apostate and Chaosmancer are a thing, i tend to roll with hybrids like 18/1/1 taking Sun domain and fire immunity stripping for synergy with Exalted Angel Wraith form mantle. I also go War Priest which gives light and fire spell power, as does the domain as does CM's Summer toggle. As does EA and PA, and i choose FotW for the cleave etc.

CM forces choice (imho) to B swords as favored weapon, and i take SWF x 5 and Legendary THF at level 31.

Having said [written!] all that, i may try your build next life. Thanks for the share.
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
In case of weapon. Are there rules I have to follow in general? I mean which type and which stats/enchantments?
Usually I go for melee characters/builds. This is my first character holding weapon focused to spell damage.

The game is much more complex than I remember from the last time I played it.
As a caster, you want to boost your spell power, spell crit chance and DC.
Spell power is better to be specific rather than potency.
Spell crit chance is given by lore.
DC is the spell focus, main stat and some feats.

At lv10 the best gear might be ravenloft, quickly putting in a 3p+5p ravenloft here FYR.
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Kasicka

Member
Thnx a LOT!
I hope for some time last one question. Can hireling use lockpicking? Just to open closed door or like treasure boxes?
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
Thnx a LOT!
I hope for some time last one question. Can hireling use lockpicking? Just to open closed door or like treasure boxes?
Rogue hirelings
 

Kasicka

Member
Again confused... There are way how to mark items to BtC or BtA right?
If I understand item marked like BtC or BtA prevent perma durability lost. Is that correct?
In case this is true, can anyone describe for me, how to do it?
Already lost few items because durability lost :-(
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
Again confused... There are way how to mark items to BtC or BtA right?
If I understand item marked like BtC or BtA prevent perma durability lost. Is that correct?
In case this is true, can anyone describe for me, how to do it?
Already lost few items because durability lost :-(
See this page

However, if every time you go to vender sell and repair, I don’t think you will lose an item that easily
 

Kasicka

Member
I see, everything in game cost something.
$8 for shards to single item attune well...
This game not for me.
 

Hakoist

Well-known member
I think fragment are usually found in chest and breakables. I got a lot of 10k stack playing the game.
 

Ghostwheel

Well-known member
Hey all, long time casual player and first time posting on new forums (not that I was very active on the old ones). Thought I'd post here instead fo starting a whole new thread on a similar subject.

I’ve been messing around with the Dark Apostate and I’m looking for a second life DA build for this character. The first life I’m playing mostly normal/hard with new players. Next life will be mostly elites and R1 (maybe R2). Depending on how that goes I may also TR one of my other older characters. I’ve read the guide and since I’m running most quests on normal/hard, I decided to try DA enhancements from the get go. I did not go through the planner this time around because the character is pretty straight forward.

What I like about the play style:
  • The quick ranged AOE/curse combo is fun, plus AOE blasts when they get up close.
  • Cool undead shroud with good defenses and easy to build on.
  • Something about hitting mobs with evil damage from my weapon is just cool.
I am level 7 and just completed Feywild with all my enhancement points in DA and planning for T5 (will see how that goes) and assuming 41 points.

Race is Shifter and planning to put 21 points in that tree for rage, howl of terror, freedom of movement, and displacement. Rest of the points will be either divine disciple or warpriest.

I’m a DPS caster, and have taken Quicken, Maximize, and Empower. Current build plan would include both Mental Toughness (critical and spell points) and then both Spell Focus Enchantment feats.

Abilities are max Wis, then Con, Int (Diplomacy, Heal, Spellcraft, and UMD) and Cha. Dump Str and Dex.

I’m a follower of Olladra because sickle and orb just looks cool in the undead form. Not to mention the Luck of Olladra. Currently using Ferrocrystal Sickle and Nicked Orb.

I took Good domain for alignment spell power and temporary hit points from turn undead, that combined with DA tier 4 dark judgement currently gives 75 temp hp to the whole party (although Good domain only lasts 20 seconds). Deific vengeance SLA is working well enough to clean up after using Bane for initial AOE damage and looking forward to a Blade Barrier SLA to deal with golems and the like. I also plan to add light spells into the rotation as a back up.

Key first life issues/questions:
  • I am struggling to get evil spellpower up to functional levels. Currently at 86 sp and 12% crit
    • Where do I find useful evil spellpower and crit items? I’ve spent time on the wiki, but not really seeing anything. I see Coalesced Coinage (orb) from White Plume Mountain but everything else looks like ML 15+. Did they seriously create this class without a single supporting orb?
    • Should I farm Legend of the Lost locket for Ring of Summer’s heat?
    • I’ve read that there are some issues with light crit applying to evil spells (more a comment than question I guess).
    • If I have to craft items, does anyone have advice with crafting spell crit items for evil spells?
  • Not enough feats to make Enhanced Curse III work (curses enemy on weapon crit) and don't have strikethrough. Has anyone made this enhancement function well? If so how and what did you have to give up? While this isn’t a melee build, the idea is to curse opponents and double damage them with AOE Pray for Mercy spells.
    • Any thoughts on how to make this work, don’t need damage, just crits?
For second life, I'm considering quarterstaff with Improved Critical and Swords to Plowshares for Enhanced Curse III. But then I would need strike through and/or cleaves. If anyone has experience trying that, I’d love to hear it. The other issue is apparently there is only one quarterstaff with radiance support starting at level 12 with Cauldron of Sora Katra crafting.

Also, not sure which feats to give up and whether to go War Domain since the point would be to double the damage from Pray For Mercy. So better crit chance or more SP? Also considering Sun or an Elemental domain instead of Good for acquiring easier spell power.

Thought it would be interesting to grab a level of Wizard for the Meta Magic feat and EK cleave for additional AOE and potential crits for Enhanced Curse III. I’d then consider one more multiclass level, but not sure, probably Fighter, and then I’d get a better balance of feats.

Again, I want to emphasize that I like the DA tree and am trying to make it work, even if its just for the occasional heroic run.

Cheers and thanks!
 
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