Consolidated Dragon Disciple bug list

RayRay Ramone

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That's always how that ability has worked. Same with the attack in Tier 1 Vistani I believe. Dont hit, no Doublestrike.

Just like the healing attack for Dark Monk at the top of Henshin. No hit, no heal. Which can sometimes make relying on that attack to heal you when on low health, more dangerous than one might realise until it's too late.
"It's always been like that" is the worst excuse. May I turn your attention to Sonic Blast?

Quick Strike is broken, especially when you consider the number of times the attack just whiffs on a target.
 

Bobbryan2

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Technically not a Dragon Disciple bug, but found it while playing my Ninja Spy Dragon Disciple... the +1 critical multiplier is not working in T5 NS.
 

ChickenMobile

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* The Dragon Disciple spell DCs are not scaling properly, as compared to the SLAs. For instance Lesser Draconic Burst SLA has a DC of 39 for me. If I pull the spell from my spellbook, it only has a DC of 28.
With the spell DCs, did some more in-depth testing

Prepared Breath Spells (i.e. the ones that cost SP)
  • Spell DC seems to be calculated from: 10+level of spell+WIS mod
    • Evocation/Conjuration/Transmutation DCs - no matter if from items, feats or enhancements DO NOT raise the DC of the relevant elemental breath weapon
    • Breath Weapon DCs - no matter if from items or enhancements DO NOT raise the DC
  • Caster Level is raised properly with Elemental Augmentation (tested Alchemical Crafting / Dragonborn / Sorcerer)
SLA Breath Spells (i.e. the ones that cost KI)
  • Spell DC seems to be calculated from: 10+WIS mod+(Evocation or Conjuration or Transmutation) + Breath Weapon DCs
  • Caster Level is raised properly with Elemental Augmentation for element type (tested Alchemical Crafting / Dragonborn / Sorcerer)
Conjuration/Breath DCs not applying was always the case with Poison Breath (alchemist spell) too.
 

Elkarah

Member
With the spell DCs, did some more in-depth testing

Prepared Breath Spells (i.e. the ones that cost SP)
  • Spell DC seems to be calculated from: 10+level of spell+WIS mod
    • Evocation/Conjuration/Transmutation DCs - no matter if from items, feats or enhancements DO NOT raise the DC of the relevant elemental breath weapon
    • Breath Weapon DCs - no matter if from items or enhancements DO NOT raise the DC
  • Caster Level is raised properly with Elemental Augmentation (tested Alchemical Crafting / Dragonborn / Sorcerer)
SLA Breath Spells (i.e. the ones that cost KI)
  • Spell DC seems to be calculated from: 10+WIS mod+(Evocation or Conjuration or Transmutation) + Breath Weapon DCs
  • Caster Level is raised properly with Elemental Augmentation for element type (tested Alchemical Crafting / Dragonborn / Sorcerer)
Conjuration/Breath DCs not applying was always the case with Poison Breath (alchemist spell) too.
I have a feeling, playing often with casters and having seen how much they save through the various levels against dc, that the one being wrongly calculated is the sla....says "10+WIS mod+(Evocation or Conjuration or Transmutation) + Breath Weapon DCs" but i think it's the other way around...so the tooltip is wrong and it's being applied as the spell (10+level of spell+WIS mod). never seen so many non ref/evasion mobs save so much. non evasion tupes save for 0 a lot too, so I have a feeling that somehow they get to evade the results.

EDIT: for reference, my SLA dc @ lvl 17 is 53 (tooltip) and they save like crazy.
cheers
Elk
 
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Shambhala

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Found 2 more
- Ninja Spy dark path poison exploit don't do anything;

- Quivering palm doesn't use STR as the update says (
  • Quivering Palm's DC now uses Strength if it is highest (highest of Strength, Dexterity, or Wisdom Modifier)
)
 

glass_jaws

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I have a feeling, playing often with casters and having seen how much they save through the various levels against dc, that the one being wrongly calculated is the sla....says "10+WIS mod+(Evocation or Conjuration or Transmutation) + Breath Weapon DCs" but i think it's the other way around...so the tooltip is wrong and it's being applied as the spell (10+level of spell+WIS mod). never seen so many non ref/evasion mobs save so much. non evasion tupes save for 0 a lot too, so I have a feeling that somehow they get to evade the results.

EDIT: for reference, my SLA dc @ lvl 17 is 53 (tooltip) and they save like crazy.
cheers
Elk

Yeah I know the spellbook ones are bugged, but clearly something is wrong with the SLAs as well. My tooltip DC at 18+ was between 62-65 (touch of the void dragon buff). In Sharn, whole packs were saving a huge amount of the time. I know Steel said he fixed the DCs earlier in the thread, but I don't know if that was just the spellbook, or the SLAs. Hopefully both.
 

ChickenMobile

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EDIT: for reference, my SLA dc @ lvl 17 is 53 (tooltip) and they save like crazy.
Ouch. 53 is a good dc at 17. I was only looking at the tooltip, didn't think of actually looking at rolled dice numbers.
I might go into PVP zone and double check the numbers in future.
 

Fruitspunch

New member
am i the only one who thinks my dragon disciple is missing some spellpoints?

at level 12 i only have 290 spellpoints and i notiuced i only get +15 every levelup
when i change my stance to fire to lose wisdom, i should have even less, but the spellpoint dont change
and if i change the stance to water to get wisdom, i should have more spellpoints, but they dont change
even if i unequip all my gear to lose wisdom, i still have the same amount of spellpoints.
if i mouseover over the spellpoints in the character sheet. it says 185 base + 80 feat bonus + 25 enchanted bonus + 5 Fate point bonus + -5 Percentage boost
i think ability bonus is missing
the char is a tabaxi, but tested with a iconic shadarkai too

this cant be right, if i buff myself with 3 buffs , i am missing almost 1/4 of my spellpoint, so i will never use the dmg spells and only the SLAs
 

Fruitspunch

New member
just made levelup to level 13 and the last page from the levelupscreen said: 23 additional spellpoints. you now have 456 total sp, not including enhacements and temporary efects.

but i only have 305 now
am i the only one who thinks my dragon disciple is missing some spellpoints?

at level 12 i only have 290 spellpoints and i notiuced i only get +15 every levelup
when i change my stance to fire to lose wisdom, i should have even less, but the spellpoint dont change
and if i change the stance to water to get wisdom, i should have more spellpoints, but they dont change
even if i unequip all my gear to lose wisdom, i still have the same amount of spellpoints.
if i mouseover over the spellpoints in the character sheet. it says 185 base + 80 feat bonus + 25 enchanted bonus + 5 Fate point bonus + -5 Percentage boost
i think ability bonus is missing
the char is a tabaxi, but tested with a iconic shadarkai too

this cant be right, if i buff myself with 3 buffs , i am missing almost 1/4 of my spellpoint, so i will never use the dmg spells and only the SLAs
 

HeavyLobster

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Bugs:
Clear Your Mind is an antirequisite with itself, thus not allowing you to get rank 2/3.

Flawless Breathing is still not giving spell crit despite the notes saying it was fixed.

Class is not gaining Spell Points from casting stat: wisdom.

Flight of Kings does not give the 20% move speed buff. This one is weird because it sometimes does, but mostly doesn't.


Suggestions:

Change the poison bursts/breaths to target fortitude instead of reflex. Poison is by far the worst element in the game, this change would at least give them a use as the only ability DD would have against high reflex enemies.

Draconic Apotheosis - Change the recast time to 6 seconds. This would go a long way in enforcing the hybrid aspect of the class as it costs 100 ki and allow the spells to scale into epic levels. Currently the spell damage is really bad once you hit 20.
 

Polkadot

Member
just ran again after the said "fix", but T5 Flawless Breathing is still not giving the 4% crit chance. And Clear Your Mind now can only be taken 1st tier, as we get an error message saying we dont have enough points if we try to take the 2nd tier. Relogged and still same error.

Anyw, im going to TR out of this buggy class. If SSG would like to compensate us for wasting our time and beta testing for them, I'll gladly accept.
 

SpardaX

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Flight of Kings does not give the 20% move speed buff. This one is weird because it sometimes does, but mostly doesn't.

I've never had a problem with this. Are you playing as a Tabaxi by chance? Or have you spent 8 points in Falconry and are using the Sprint Boost Action Boost?
 
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