Jodro
Likes to build, bored to play
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to make a DA with crossbows, mostly beacuse its very cool to be a shadow with shadowy crossbows. This is my build so far and because i don't usually make ranged builds i would like some advice on how to make it better
Classes: 20 Dark Apostate, 10 Epic, 4 Legendary
Race: Human Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Start Tome Final HP: 791 Displacement: 25%
Str: 8 0 14 Unc Rng: -60 Incorp: 25%
Dex: 13 0 13 PRR: 36 AC: 28
Con: 16 0 22 MRR: 9 +Healing Amp: 15
Int: 8 0 8 Dodge: 2/25 -Healing Amp: 65
Wis: 17 0 36 Fort: 155% Repair Amp: 15
Cha: 8 0 8 SR: 62 BAB: 25
DR:
Immunities: Weapon Durability Damage, Magic Missiles, Blindness, Petrification, Magic Missiles, Death effect, Level drain, Freedom of Movement, Death effects, Level drain, Enchantment and charm spells
Class and Feat Selection
Enhancements: 80 APs
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Dark Apostate - Points spent: 41
Core1 Dark Apostate
Tier1 Apostate's Curse
Tier1 Bane
Tier1 Shadowy Bulwark - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Apostate's Skills - 3 Ranks
Core2 Shadow Shrouding
Tier2 Prayer
Tier2 Enhanced Curse I
Tier3 Enhanced Curse II
Tier3 Cursed Words
Tier3 Pray for Mercy
Core3 Enhanced Shadowform I
Tier3 Wisdom I
Core4 Enhanced Shadowform II
Tier4 Enhanced Curse III
Tier4 Blessing of the Shadow - 1 Ranks
Tier4 Return to Dusk
Tier5 Ultimate Heresy
Tier5 Necromantic Devotion
Tier5 Benediction
Core5 Enhanced Shadowform III
Tier5 Shadows of Death
Core6 Master of Shadows
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Inquisitive - Points spent: 26
Core1 Inquisitive
Tier1 Dual Shooter
Tier1 Conjure Bolts - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Eye for Accuracy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Inquisitive Skills - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Crossbow Adept I
Core2 Hit the Streets
Core3 Mind Like Iron
Tier3 First Things First: Shoot First
Tier3 Crossbow Adept II
Core4 True Seeing
Tier4 Inquisition Style: Divine Inquisition
Tier4 What Later?: Ask Questions Later
Tier4 Crossbow Adept III
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Falconry - Points spent: 13
Core1 Summon Falcon: Summon Raven
Tier1 Practiced Accuracy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Wanderlust - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Rugged - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Killer Instinct I
Tier3 Killer Instinct II
Tier3 Go for the Eyes: Go for the Eyes Shot - 1 Ranks
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Epic Destinies: 68 Destiny Points
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Shiradi Champion - Points spent: 12
Core1 Fey Favor
Tier1 Good Luck - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Shiradi Strike: Pin
Tier1 Wild Magics - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Fey Sight - 1 Ranks
Core2 Vision
Core3 Audience with the Queen
Tier3 Beguile or Hunt's End: Hunt's End
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Divine Crusader - Points spent: 34
Core1 Just Cause
Tier1 Spear of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Divine Sundering - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Holy Mantle
Core2 Confront any Foe
Tier2 Shield of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Divine Deflection - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Bulk Up - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Strike with Poise - 3 Ranks
Core3 Weather any Blow
Tier3 Gaze of the Divine
Tier4 Heavenly Presence
Tier4 Blessed Strikes - 3 Ranks
Core4 Sunder Evil
Tier4 Purge the Wicked - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Law of the Divine
Tier5 Blessed Blades
Tier5 Beckon Divinity
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Magus of the Eclipse - Points spent: 22
Core1 Touched by the Moon
Tier1 Self or Summons: Impregnable Mind - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Imperceptible Casting - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Moonlight: Dark Light of the Moon
Core2 Deepening Arcana
Tier2 Lunar Insight: Wisdom
Tier2 Moontouched - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Starlight - 3 Ranks
Core3 Nullmagic Aura
Tier3 Magus Spell Focus: Necromancy - 3 Ranks
Core4 Nightwind
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Dark Apostate Spells
Spell Like / Special Abilities
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Displacement
Bane
Prayer
Bestow Curse
Dark Light of the Moon
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About Inquisitive tree, does "Ask questions later" require successful diplomacy, or just hitting the button on opponent enables it?
I'm trying to make a DA with crossbows, mostly beacuse its very cool to be a shadow with shadowy crossbows. This is my build so far and because i don't usually make ranged builds i would like some advice on how to make it better
Classes: 20 Dark Apostate, 10 Epic, 4 Legendary
Race: Human Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Start Tome Final HP: 791 Displacement: 25%
Str: 8 0 14 Unc Rng: -60 Incorp: 25%
Dex: 13 0 13 PRR: 36 AC: 28
Con: 16 0 22 MRR: 9 +Healing Amp: 15
Int: 8 0 8 Dodge: 2/25 -Healing Amp: 65
Wis: 17 0 36 Fort: 155% Repair Amp: 15
Cha: 8 0 8 SR: 62 BAB: 25
DR:
Immunities: Weapon Durability Damage, Magic Missiles, Blindness, Petrification, Magic Missiles, Death effect, Level drain, Freedom of Movement, Death effects, Level drain, Enchantment and charm spells
Class and Feat Selection
| Level | Class | Feats |
| 1 | Dark Apostate(1) | Human Bonus Feat: Point Blank Shot |
| Standard: Precise Shot | ||
| Follower Of: Follower of Aureon | ||
| Class Skills: Diplomacy(1), Heal(3), Spellcraft(4) | ||
| 2 | Dark Apostate(2) | Domain: Domain of Luck |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 3 | Dark Apostate(3) | Standard: Quicken Spell |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 4 | Dark Apostate(4) | Wisdom: +1 Level up |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 5 | Dark Apostate(5) | Domain Feat: Improved Domain of Luck |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 6 | Dark Apostate(6) | Standard: Spell Focus: Necromancy |
| Deity: Aureon's Instruction | ||
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 7 | Dark Apostate(7) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 8 | Dark Apostate(8) | Wisdom: +1 Level up |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 9 | Dark Apostate(9) | Standard: Rapid Reload |
| Domain Feat: Greater Domain of Luck | ||
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 10 | Dark Apostate(10) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 11 | Dark Apostate(11) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 12 | Dark Apostate(12) | Standard: Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons |
| Wisdom: +1 Level up | ||
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 13 | Dark Apostate(13) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 14 | Dark Apostate(14) | Domain Feat: Master of the Domain of Luck |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 15 | Dark Apostate(15) | Standard: Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 16 | Dark Apostate(16) | Wisdom: +1 Level up |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 17 | Dark Apostate(17) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 18 | Dark Apostate(18) | Standard: Precision |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 19 | Dark Apostate(19) | Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) |
| 20 | Dark Apostate(20) | Wisdom: +1 Level up |
| Class Skills: Heal(1), Spellcraft(1) | ||
| 21 | Epic(1) | Epic Feat: Eerie Aim |
| 22 | Epic(2) | Epic Destiny Feat: Holy Strike |
| 23 | Epic(3) | |
| 24 | Epic(4) | Epic Feat: Arcane Insight |
| Wisdom: +1 Level up | ||
| 25 | Epic(5) | Epic Destiny Feat: Doubleshot |
| 26 | Epic(6) | |
| 27 | Epic(7) | Epic Feat: Embolden Spell |
| 28 | Epic(8) | Epic Destiny Feat: Embodiment of Law |
| Wisdom: +1 Level up | ||
| 29 | Epic(9) | |
| 30 | Epic(10) | Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical |
| Legendary Feat: Scion of the Shadowfell | ||
| 31 | Legendary(1) | Epic Destiny Feat: Legendary Aim |
| 32 | Legendary(2) | Wisdom: +1 Level up |
| 33 | Legendary(3) | Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction |
| 34 | Legendary(4) | Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness |
Enhancements: 80 APs
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Dark Apostate - Points spent: 41
Core1 Dark Apostate
Tier1 Apostate's Curse
Tier1 Bane
Tier1 Shadowy Bulwark - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Apostate's Skills - 3 Ranks
Core2 Shadow Shrouding
Tier2 Prayer
Tier2 Enhanced Curse I
Tier3 Enhanced Curse II
Tier3 Cursed Words
Tier3 Pray for Mercy
Core3 Enhanced Shadowform I
Tier3 Wisdom I
Core4 Enhanced Shadowform II
Tier4 Enhanced Curse III
Tier4 Blessing of the Shadow - 1 Ranks
Tier4 Return to Dusk
Tier5 Ultimate Heresy
Tier5 Necromantic Devotion
Tier5 Benediction
Core5 Enhanced Shadowform III
Tier5 Shadows of Death
Core6 Master of Shadows
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Inquisitive - Points spent: 26
Core1 Inquisitive
Tier1 Dual Shooter
Tier1 Conjure Bolts - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Eye for Accuracy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Inquisitive Skills - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Crossbow Adept I
Core2 Hit the Streets
Core3 Mind Like Iron
Tier3 First Things First: Shoot First
Tier3 Crossbow Adept II
Core4 True Seeing
Tier4 Inquisition Style: Divine Inquisition
Tier4 What Later?: Ask Questions Later
Tier4 Crossbow Adept III
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Falconry - Points spent: 13
Core1 Summon Falcon: Summon Raven
Tier1 Practiced Accuracy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Wanderlust - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Rugged - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Killer Instinct I
Tier3 Killer Instinct II
Tier3 Go for the Eyes: Go for the Eyes Shot - 1 Ranks
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Epic Destinies: 68 Destiny Points
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Shiradi Champion - Points spent: 12
Core1 Fey Favor
Tier1 Good Luck - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Shiradi Strike: Pin
Tier1 Wild Magics - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Fey Sight - 1 Ranks
Core2 Vision
Core3 Audience with the Queen
Tier3 Beguile or Hunt's End: Hunt's End
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Divine Crusader - Points spent: 34
Core1 Just Cause
Tier1 Spear of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Divine Sundering - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Holy Mantle
Core2 Confront any Foe
Tier2 Shield of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Divine Deflection - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Bulk Up - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Strike with Poise - 3 Ranks
Core3 Weather any Blow
Tier3 Gaze of the Divine
Tier4 Heavenly Presence
Tier4 Blessed Strikes - 3 Ranks
Core4 Sunder Evil
Tier4 Purge the Wicked - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Law of the Divine
Tier5 Blessed Blades
Tier5 Beckon Divinity
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Magus of the Eclipse - Points spent: 22
Core1 Touched by the Moon
Tier1 Self or Summons: Impregnable Mind - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Imperceptible Casting - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Moonlight: Dark Light of the Moon
Core2 Deepening Arcana
Tier2 Lunar Insight: Wisdom
Tier2 Moontouched - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Starlight - 3 Ranks
Core3 Nullmagic Aura
Tier3 Magus Spell Focus: Necromancy - 3 Ranks
Core4 Nightwind
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Dark Apostate Spells
| Level | Spell Name | School | CL/MCL | DC | Average Damage | Critical Damage |
| 1 | Inflict Light Wounds | Necromancy | 27/12 | 40 | 363 - 969, Average 727 | 781 - 2085, Average 1563 |
| 1 | Bless | Enchantment | - | - | - | - |
| 1 | Divine Favor | Evocation | - | - | - | - |
| 1 | Doom | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 1 | Nightshield | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 1 | Obscuring Mist | Conjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 1 | Shield of Faith | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 2 | Inflict Moderate Wounds | Necromancy | 27/17 | 40 | 848 - 1454, Average 1212 | 1824 - 3127, Average 2606 |
| 2 | Aid | Enchantment | - | - | - | - |
| 2 | Bear's Endurance | Transmutation | - | - | - | - |
| 2 | Cure Moderate Wounds | Conjuration | 27/17 | 31 | 118 - 154, Average 140 | 248 - 324, Average 294 |
| 2 | Owl's Wisdom | Transmutation | - | - | - | - |
| 2 | Resist Energy | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 3 | Inflict Serious Wounds | Necromancy | 27/22 | 40 | 848 - 1454, Average 1212 | 1824 - 3127, Average 2606 |
| 3 | Blindness | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 3 | Contagion | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 3 | Dispel Magic | Abjuration | - | 31 | - | - |
| 3 | Magic Circle Against Evil | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 3 | Remove Curse | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 4 | Inflict Critical Wounds | Necromancy | 27/27 | 40 | 1333 - 1939, Average 1697 | 2867 - 4170, Average 3649 |
| 4 | Death Ward | Transmutation | - | - | - | - |
| 4 | Divine Power | Evocation | - | - | - | - |
| 4 | Freedom of Movement | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 4 | Recitation | Enchantment | - | - | - | - |
| 4 | Shield of Faith, Mass | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 5 | Inflict Light Wounds, Mass | Necromancy | 27/32 | 40 | 363 - 969, Average 727 | 781 - 2085, Average 1563 |
| 5 | Protection from Elements | Abjuration | 27/17 | - | 540 - 540, Average 540 | 1080 - 1080, Average 1080 |
| 5 | Slay Living | Necromancy | 27/27 | 40 | 1066 - 1550, Average 1357 | 2239 - 3256, Average 2849 |
| 5 | Spell Resistance | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 5 | Stalwart Pact | Evocation | - | - | - | - |
| 5 | Symbol of Pain | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 6 | Inflict Moderate Wounds, Mass | Necromancy | 27/37 | 40 | 606 - 1212, Average 969 | 1303 - 2606, Average 2085 |
| 6 | Bear's Endurance, Mass | Transmutation | - | - | - | - |
| 6 | Harm | Necromancy | 27/22 | 40 | 969 - 969, Average 969 | 2035 - 2035, Average 2035 |
| 6 | Heroes' Feast | Conjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 6 | Symbol of Fear | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 6 | Undeath to Death | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 7 | Inflict Serious Wounds, Mass | Necromancy | 27/42 | 40 | 848 - 1454, Average 1212 | 1824 - 3127, Average 2606 |
| 7 | Destruction | Necromancy | 27/27 | 40 | 594 - 864, Average 756 | 1188 - 1728, Average 1512 |
| 7 | Protection from Elements, Mass | Abjuration | 27/17 | - | 540 - 540, Average 540 | 1080 - 1080, Average 1080 |
| 7 | Resurrection | Conjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 7 | Spell Resistance, Mass | Abjuration | - | - | - | - |
| 7 | Symbol of Weakness | Necromancy | - | 40 | - | - |
| 8 | Inflict Critical Wounds, Mass | Necromancy | 27/47 | 40 | 1333 - 1939, Average 1697 | 2867 - 4170, Average 3649 |
| 8 | Cure Critical Wounds, Mass | Conjuration | 27/47 | 31 | 140 - 211, Average 183 | 294 - 444, Average 384 |
| 8 | Death Pact | Necromancy | - | - | - | - |
| 8 | Death Ward, Mass | Transmutation | - | - | - | - |
| 8 | Holy Aura | Abjuration | - | 31 | - | - |
| 8 | Symbol of Death | Necromancy | - | - | - | - |
| 9 | Energy Drain | Necromancy | - | - | - | - |
| 9 | Heal, Mass | Conjuration | 27/32 | 31 | 969 - 969, Average 969 | 2035 - 2035, Average 2035 |
| 9 | Implosion | Evocation | - | 31 | - | - |
| 9 | True Resurrection | Conjuration | - | - | - | - |
Spell Like / Special Abilities
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Displacement
Bane
Prayer
Bestow Curse
Dark Light of the Moon
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About Inquisitive tree, does "Ask questions later" require successful diplomacy, or just hitting the button on opponent enables it?
