DDO Bonus Days!

[PersonMan]

Is it really better than von3 even with the bonus?

The main issue with farming Cannith Challenges for tokens is the level restriction. Unless something has changed you want to be level 21 for the most rewards, where regular token farming you can do at cap without issues.
Been a while but Time is Money was pretty good payout for 5 minute quest (iirc it was 1-2 tokens without buying any time). Picture Portals can get 4-5 Tokens but takes a good team to split well and cut down the time, otherwise expect ~30 minutes for it.
At the very least it is an excuse to do something different.

 

[peng]

I am going to ask again. What part of the community actually uses Challenge Items? Besides running them once for XP, I don't know of a use for challenges as a whole. The items are so dated. Is there some metric you have that shows people farm challenges? This is such a wasted weekend bonus in my opinion.

The house C challenge mats are *so* useful. The weapons are ok, the mournlode armors are mostly useless, but every other item has stats well above what other crafted or named items have at the same level, and they get extra effects at level 20, making them often best in slot at 20 for certain builds. On top of that, you can trade mats for minor xp, renown, slayer, or crafting xp pots, or tokens of the 12.

 

[Baahb3]

It is perfect for new f2P players to get some decent (blue) gear.
The game is not only for you. Try to lose some of that egocentrism; it makes you sound entitled.

Try not to be so condescending with your remarks.

I would count myself as a prime member of not everything in this game is for me. The characters I play, the way I play, very different from what most do.

And still, I will stand by my comments. The number of players that do challenges is less than small. To have any type of bonus for such a small portion is a fool's errand in my book.

And sorry, but how are F2P players supposed to grind out enough rewards to get any of these items. They are not free, they would have to buy the packs. And the 1 free token per character per day? I don't see F2P players doing this once or twice a day over the weekend and make any real progress.
--Edit: I just looked an these were included in the free quest coupon they have offered a couple times. So if they had that, they would not need to purchase but that also holds true for all the old SSS packs, which offer better items IMO.

 

[Baahb3]

My Arties wear the fully upgraded bracers every life as well.

Sure. I wear a master artificer ring at 20 as well. But I ground that out years ago when it was good and my guess is that most of those that have items they use, have had them for a good long while. In today's game, I just don't hear or see people running these to get that gear. I cannot remember the last time I saw an LFM for any challenge quest. You are better off farming any of the old SSS stuff and using that at 20.

 

[Stabitha]

It is perfect for new f2P players to get some decent (blue) gear.
The game is not only for you. Try to lose some of that egocentrism; it makes you sound entitled.

You realize who keeps the game alive by bring in a revenue stream ? Its not the F2P players, its the P2P. Nothing wrong with stating the obvious.
To make a "Bonus" event for a small segment of the player base is short sighted at a minimum.
Want to give f2p a bonus , sure, just don't forget who keep the lights on, servers on and pays SSG employees salaries

 

[Drunken.dx]

You realize who keeps the game alive by bring in a revenue stream ? Its not the F2P players, its the P2P. Nothing wrong with stating the obvious.
To make a "Bonus" event for a small segment of the player base is short sighted at a minimum.
Want to give f2p a bonus , sure, just don't forget who keep the lights on, servers on and pays SSG employees salaries

As a VIP I'm grateful that mere weeks ago there was VIP only bonus days which gave me extra XP.

I rarely run challenges, and then mostly for Favor, but I don't see issue with this bonus days, and these "no one runs this" claims are hilarious at best.

 

[JangoEX]

I run those for pots every bonus weekend

 

[Contessor]

This ddo bonus days is just funny.

I am sure the lost day of playtime really put people back on challenge rewards considering no Crystal Cove or Endless Nights event is going on.

 

[Discount Gandalf]

You realize who keeps the game alive by bring in a revenue stream ? Its not the F2P players, its the P2P. Nothing wrong with stating the obvious.
To make a "Bonus" event for a small segment of the player base is short sighted at a minimum.
Want to give f2p a bonus , sure, just don't forget who keep the lights on, servers on and pays SSG employees salaries

Perhaps it is a valid complaint about giving a bonus to unpopular content. I don't particularly like challenges either. But they can't all be winners. In any case, I fail to see how bonus days has anything to do with keeping the lights on. These bonuses are for all, whether f2p, VIP, or premium. It's fine if you don't like this one but you can still take advantage, if you want. Just like crafting bonuses are for all, even if one may personally not like crafting. Or grouping bonuses, even if one prefers to solo.

What is absolutely not OK is what happened two weeks ago giving a bonus to only the VIP subscribers and leaving everyone else out in the cold. This is a F2P game, in case anyone here or at SSG has forgotten. And non-VIPs put money into this game too. Lots of it. In fact, I would argue some non-VIPs put more money into the game than some VIPs do. Alienating those people and others who could potentially become paying players through unforced errors by excluding them from the weekly bonus is what is short sighted. VIPs get their benefits from their program, which is all they are entitled to.

DDO bonus days are for everyone and whether they individually "keep the lights on" is not at all relevant.

 

[in4theride75]

Is it really better than von3 even with the bonus?

They are similar if run at or below level 25 during a bonus. Buying time, for example, can be completed in 5 minutes and nets approx 200-250 epic mephit wings. So a 6.5 minute epic token average with no ransack.

 

[Shear-buckler]

They are similar if run at or below level 25 during a bonus. Buying time, for example, can be completed in 5 minutes and nets approx 200-250 epic mephit wings. So a 6.5 minute epic token average with no ransack.

Von 3 is 7-10 minutes solo and gives 2.5 tokens.

 

[in4theride75]

Von 3 is 7-10 minutes solo and gives 2.5 tokens.

von3 10 minute completion gives 2.5. That is .25 tokens per minute. Buying time, 5 minute completion gives ~.83 tokens which is about .17 tokens per minute. You get 30% more tokens per minute running von3 but if you don't consider that similar I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Shear-buckler]

von3 10 minute completion gives 2.5. That is .25 tokens per minute. Buying time, 5 minute completion gives ~.83 tokens which is about .17 tokens per minute. You get 30% more tokens per minute running von3 but if you don't consider that similar I don't know what to tell you.

Just putting the numbers out there.

 

[Farlino]

Try not to be so condescending with your remarks.

I would count myself as a prime member of not everything in this game is for me. The characters I play, the way I play, very different from what most do.

And still, I will stand by my comments. The number of players that do challenges is less than small. To have any type of bonus for such a small portion is a fool's errand in my book.

And sorry, but how are F2P players supposed to grind out enough rewards to get any of these items. They are not free, they would have to buy the packs. And the 1 free token per character per day? I don't see F2P players doing this once or twice a day over the weekend and make any real progress.
--Edit: I just looked an these were included in the free quest coupon they have offered a couple times. So if they had that, they would not need to purchase but that also holds true for all the old SSS packs, which offer better items IMO.

Make a stupid post => get a stupid repost. You are the one who is condescending, deciding for most of the player base how they should feel.
An f2P player does not need the pack to do the challenges. Of course they need to get the tokens beforehand ... but your assumption that they will try to get the tokens when the bonus starts is just that. I know several guilds that tell new f2p players they should try to get some tokens each week. Because those experienced players know that these bonus days will come again and the f2P player will then greatly benefit from it. And those same guilds run those challenges for those new players often also.
Have fun playing your way, but don't try to decide how others should be.

 

[Phoenicis]

Von 3 is 7-10 minutes solo and gives 2.5 tokens.

Not everyone can do Von3 in 7-10 minutes.

 

[Cheeps]

I think they're good for exp and I use the mats to buy stuff like guild/exp/slayer pots or tokens of the twelve.

 

[Shear-buckler]

Not everyone can do Von3 in 7-10 minutes.

It's far easier than the challenge times cited.

 

[in4theride75]

It's far easier than the challenge times cited.

Now that statement is objectively false. Challenges are hard time coded meaning if a challenge gives you 5 minutes you get 5 minutes, and challenges scale linearly based off the normal difficult of a quest of a given level. Elite is a 4x scalar of a given quest level. It is objectively easier to complete a CR 21 challenge at level 21 in the time given than it is to complete EE quests in a zerg time.

 

[Shear-buckler]

Now that statement is objectively false. Challenges are hard time coded meaning if a challenge gives you 5 minutes you get 5 minutes, and challenges scale linearly based off the normal difficult of a quest of a given level. Elite is a 4x scalar of a given quest level. It is objectively easier to complete a CR 21 challenge at level 21 in the time given than it is to complete EE quests in a zerg time.

There is more to the challenges than monster stats.

 

[in4theride75]

There is more to the challenges than monster stats.

I could teach any person, on a first life character, with no gear, in a single run to net those numbers solo every run. It is objectively easier than running von3 EE solo. Period.