Death Knight as a Paladin Archetype?
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calouscaine
Grouchy Vet
In 3.5 there was always black guard as a prc, but since ddo restricts playable alignments and uses a great deal of 'freedom' in their interpretations for classes, spells, skills, etc. then it might be viable.
But, black guards have access to thieving skills and so forth and were typically lawful evil, and we know how much ddo loves to class lock skills even though they should be trainable at double cost regardless of class. . .who knows if ddo would even consider it.
They did add in assassin after all as a tree, and they're supposed to be restricted to evil alignments.
But, black guards have access to thieving skills and so forth and were typically lawful evil, and we know how much ddo loves to class lock skills even though they should be trainable at double cost regardless of class. . .who knows if ddo would even consider it.
They did add in assassin after all as a tree, and they're supposed to be restricted to evil alignments.
Purr
Well-known member
be single class
Take a capstone in a fitting tree.
droid327
Hardcore casual soloist
Alternative
Sarcasm elemental
It would get trap skills and half trap damage in med armor. ?
Merovinjio
Well-known member
better as Wizard archetype tho
FuzzyDuck81
Well-known member
Well there's the Undying Court & the Deathless in Eberron lore, so it's certainly a possibility especially if they start combining iconics & archetypes.
calouscaine
Grouchy Vet
dark apostate is just a half baked pale master in my opinion, I don't like it and I think it's garbage. But that's just me, I never like playing clerics as is.
That aside, a death knight/black guard would have trapping skills, that in itself is a huge benefit since those skills are still class locked for some reason.
I wouldn't mind seeing archtypes for other classes, weapon master (though this is probably covered by Kensai ish?), or a dirge singer for bards, dragon disciples for sorcs and bards, shadow dancer for rogues, well. . . the list could go on, there's simply so much out there that can be used in this regard. So I imagine it will come when it comes.
The feywild isn't actually going off fairy lore. . .or d&d lore so far as I can tell. I was pretty excited when I saw the expansion until I went there. . .but I'm pretty into mythology, especially about the seelie and unseelie courts. I was just hoping for more than what it was, so my fault on that front.
It would have been nice if they made it more dark and enchanting though, a place of foreboding and forbidden beauty that threatened to enthrall you and keep you there forever. . . but oh well.
Purr
Well-known member
I guess this is more of my idea, where it's essentially a fallen paladin archetype; different than just adding trap skills to an assassin paladin.
calouscaine
Grouchy Vet
aha, you want an actual death knight, more of a race than a class going by lord soth. It would be pretty neat. Would probably end up as an iconic and stuck with some predesigned class. But it's a cool idea if they decide one day to do some dragon lance, I would love some dragon lance.
By the by, lord soth ended up in ravenloft at one point as a dark lord before getting spit back out, and turned mortal by Thakisis upon his return to krynn and then executed. Neat story line with him.
droid327
Hardcore casual soloist
Yeah I agree, that seems more like an Iconic than an Archetype, both in spirit and in practice. It could have its own Racial tree to support undead-ed-ness, the same way Bladeforged supports being a Toasterdin
No reason they cant use some of the Archetype structure in Iconics either, really, though - you could have a Death Knight iconic with a special tree replacing something like Archetypes do. Iconic Fighter with Pale Master replacing Vanguard? Iconic Paladin with Sac Def, PM and a special Death Knight melee tree?
That being said...I still dont quite see what would functionally distinguish it from an EK/PM. That already pretty much delivers on the Lord Soth power fantasy. Especially if you run it in Divine Crusader to add that element of Paladin-iness like Smites.
Dragnilar
Dragonborn of Bahamut
I'm hoping that IF they ever decide to do another Pally archetype, they go with Blackguard. Deathknight is OK but for some reason I've always felt like Blackguard was more interesting as a player class.
