Does it help to have Off-Hand Strike greater than 100%?
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osamaclees
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no offhand strike is not strike through
offhand strike is not about making extra attacks its purely "do you make an attack with your offhand aswell?" its a pure 1/0 or yes/no, not a how many. as such anything over 100% is irrelevant as either you make an attack with your offhand or not
double strike is the same its a chance to make an extra attack anything over 100% is irrelevant, ie does it strike 2x or not
strike through on the other hand is "how many can you hit" not a pure yes/no so the more the better
offhand strike is not about making extra attacks its purely "do you make an attack with your offhand aswell?" its a pure 1/0 or yes/no, not a how many. as such anything over 100% is irrelevant as either you make an attack with your offhand or not
double strike is the same its a chance to make an extra attack anything over 100% is irrelevant, ie does it strike 2x or not
strike through on the other hand is "how many can you hit" not a pure yes/no so the more the better
You can doublestrike with off hand as well. Those are two separate stats. Having either of these over 100% is useless. Only doubleshot is uncapped.
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osamaclees
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eh not sure what trying to say? yes ofcourse can doublestrike with offhand aswell?
or why quoted me to say that?
they are not separate stats your offhand uses your double strike stat same as your main hand just capped at 50% of your doublestrike (max 50% chance) 65% with appropriate feat (max 65% chance)
ie if you have 30% double strike your main hand will have a 30% chance whereas your offhand will only have a 15% chance (aslong as offhand procs)
if you had 1000000000% double strike your main hand will have a 100% chance whereas your offhand will have a %50 (once again aslong as offhand procs)
unless you are saying offhand and double strike are separate stats which yes?
sorry not sure what trying to say? (english not first language although i used to think i was good at it heh)
In the case of the OP he would have 100% double strike on offhand (assuming hand wraps). And even if he wasn’t using hand wraps you can cap offhand double strike at 65%, and most would, with PTWF.
As far as the quote, I will be honest I don’t think I read your entire post. The first part suggesting there would not be how many, which is not true with double strike (although the way it is implemented in the game is just doubling the damage).
osamaclees
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maybe my english (and need to learn!!) but can you explain why "The first part suggesting there would not be how many, which is not true with double strike" is not correct? double strike can only happen once per hit not any more eg you cant triple strike quadstrike or whatever? you have a chance to hit 2x only no more (or as you correctly say its not 2x hits its double damage now (used to be))
so there for is pure binary is it not? as in do double damage yes/no
no matter your double strike you cannot do more so pure yes/no not how many??
Unless a recent change, it is accurate. Not on any handwrap monk build at the moment. But my main will be back to monk soon after I finish his last iconic lifes.
woq
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Wraps have 100% ds cap on those offhand strikes, not affected by the 65% cap
woq
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Who the hell knows in DDO, but thats how its always been afaik. This also means you dont gotta take perfect twf unless you want the heroic hp.