Doubleshot Not Adding Up

[Wulfguar]

Running a 17 Gnome Arti with Light Repeater and Rune Arm.

I have reset my trees after Update 70.

These are the enhancements I have:
- Infused Weapons (BE Core 2: +5% DS)
- Agility Engine (BE Tier 4: +10% DS)
- Hit the Streets (Inqis Core 2: +5% DS)

Items:
- Outpost Snipers Belt (+5% DS)

My total Doubleshout shows as 14 %. I was expecting 25%.

Can anyone explain why the difference ?

Thanks,
Wulfguar

 

[Konsumer]

Are any the same type? Like enhancement bonuses?

 

[Wulfguar]

I was under the impression that enhancement bonuses from the trees stack.

 

[Jasparius]

Are any the same type? Like enhancement bonuses?

Even still, 3 x 5% and a 10% and they are getting 14%, so either there is a lot of stacking of bonuses and there is a mystery 4% coming from somewhere else, or something strange is going on.

 

[rabidfox]

- Infused Weapons (BE Core 2: +5% DS)

If you previously had this core before the recent change, you'll need to reset the BE tree and retake it before that 5% will show up.

- Hit the Streets (Inqis Core 2: +5% DS)

This core is broken & doesn't give the 5% DS. It will need to be fixed in a future update.

Agility Engine (BE Tier 4: +10% DS)

Do you have a runearm equipped (I assume you do, but just checking)?

(I know you mentioned having reset and using runearm, but double-checks hehe)

 

[Wulfguar]

Ok things just got even stranger.

I took off the Outpost Snipers Belt and my Doubleshot dropped to 8% ???

 

[The Blonde]

Ok things just got even stranger.

I took off the Outpost Snipers Belt and my Doubleshot dropped to 8% ???

Generally you gotta excuse ~1% errors, which would make what you're seeing here normal (something is up with Agility Engine likely, go figure). It's just "Infused Weapons" and "Hit the Streets" that are not working for you.

If you previously had this core before the recent change, you'll need to reset the BE tree and retake it before that 5% will show up.


This core is broken & doesn't give the 5% DS. It will need to be fixed in a future update.


Do you have a runearm equipped (I assume you do, but just checking)?

(I know you mentioned having reset and using runearm, but double-checks hehe)

I thought Infused Weapons is also bugged just like Hit the Streets, am I misinformed? Don't have an Arti available.

 

[rabidfox]

I thought Infused Weapons is also bugged just like Hit the Streets, am I misinformed? Don't have an Arti available.

I got that 5% once I reset my tree.

 

[rabidfox]

The OP should reset trees and then take things one at a time and recheck numbers to see where/what is breaking for them.

 

[Bitss]

[]my Doubleshot dropped to 8% ???

they're finally catching on.

If you're Arti and have a Repeater equipped . . .

 

[Yamani]

Ok things just got even stranger.

I took off the Outpost Snipers Belt and my Doubleshot dropped to 8% ???

doubleshot primal past life? 3% per life.
Airship buffs: 2%?

 

[Jeronimo]

I noticed that I don't get my doubleshot increased from an item with quality double shot 3% and also not with macrotechnic tier 3 speed drive that should give up to 6%. I'm currently at 94% double shot, but should be at 101%.

Edit:
Actually, I think I ought to have 113% doubleshot (but it shows up as 94%):

harbinger of chaos feat	2​
double shot feat	10​
scion astral plane feat	4​
item	9​
item quality	3​
profane experiment set	15​
enhancement (inquis)	45​
guild	2​
shiradi	11​
macrotechnic	6​
warchanter reckless	6​
Total	113​

I guess I'll have to do some digging on what stacks and not.

Edit 2: Forgot my epic past life stance for +9%... so I should have like 122% double shot, but only have 94%.
Edit 3: swapped my quality item to an insightful +5, and re-gained WS reckless from a friendly Bard. This put me at 105% DS. I saw a reply below that 5% from inquis is confirmed as bugged. 14% still missing though. I suspect that destiny DS from different trees might not stack... will test this when time allows.

 

[Lacci]

Sometimes you also have to log out and back in for some changes from enhancement trees or destinies to take effect.
Not sure if that´s the case here, but maybe worth a try.

 

[Yamani]

I noticed that I don't get my doubleshot increased from an item with quality double shot 3% and also not with macrotechnic tier 3 speed drive that should give up to 6%. I'm currently at 94% double shot, but should be at 101%.

Edit:
Actually, I think I ought to have 113% doubleshot (but it shows up as 94%):

harbinger of chaos feat	2​
double shot feat	10​
scion astral plane feat	4​
item	9​
item quality	3​
profane experiment set	15​
enhancement (inquis)	45​
guild	2​
shiradi	11​
macrotechnic	6​
warchanter reckless	6​
Total	113​

I guess I'll have to do some digging on what stacks and not.

Edit 2: Forgot my epic past life stance for +9%... so I should have like 122% double shot, but only have 94%.

for enhancement inquis:
5% core 2(confirmed not working), 5% tier 4, 10% T5, and 15% T5. Where is the last 10%?

 

[svenofnein]

Ugh, that is explaining now why things feel a lot shittier than I expected... haven't reset any trees. Of course, I just learned a few months ago I needed to reset my hot bars anytime something upgraded - so ran around with the lowest settings of things I spent 3 or 6 AP's on to cap out for a number of lives. Have a pure arti sitting at cap, will do a before and after check tonight and report back... sigh.

 

[svenofnein]

I was at 98% reset enhancements dropped to like 54% and then went to 103% after resetting. Reset Epics and dropped to 79% finished those up and went to 101%. I didn't see anything I had that had doubleshot that I forgot to add back nor was there anything I appeared to miss. Pretty much sure I had every doubleshot I could take before and after.

 

[Phaedra]

I was at 98% reset enhancements dropped to like 54% and then went to 103% after resetting. Reset Epics and dropped to 79% finished those up and went to 101%. I didn't see anything I had that had doubleshot that I forgot to add back nor was there anything I appeared to miss. Pretty much sure I had every doubleshot I could take before and after.

Hopefully you don't also have to respec extended clip to get the 33% there.

 

[svenofnein]

Hopefully you don't also have to respect extended clip to get the 33% there.

The day before they announced that, I had changed from repeater to inquisitive to see which I liked better so I had traded out Expanded Clip - haven't switched back yet. Think I am going to try going none inquisitive non repeating and then try repeating once again and see how they all compare. Or, maybe just go run a melee life or two instead.

 

[Livmo]

The OP should reset trees and then take things one at a time and recheck numbers to see where/what is breaking for them.

Thanks! I'm going to try this on my main. Got back from vacation and the numbers don't add up. DPS is very low and I might need to make other changes as well.

 

[svenofnein]

So, it felt better today - still not a fan. I think maybe leveling back up and getting a feel for the play style changes might help. Issue for me seems more in stopping forward progress of mobs - there is enough of a hitch that lets them keep moving in on you where i'm expecting them to stop or not close the distance as fast.

Almost like a scene from Millers Crossing shooting a guy with a tommy gun (or a Scarface machine gun scene) - thus getting shot stops forward progress vs T2 where Robert Patrick's terminator just keeps moving forward as Arni is shotgunning it.