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kmoustakas

Scourge of Xaos
We are working to debut our new 64-bit game worlds and enable free character transfers as quickly as we can, and we expect to have further guidance on timing within the next 24 hours. One of the changes we are making requires a change in our transfer process and guidance, which is that when transfers and worlds are available, characters will not be able to Pack until they have removed items from their Reincarnation Cache. We will have more information on specific timing of the opening of our new worlds as soon as we can. Thank you!
I foresaw this. Man I'm a prophet. Or I've been playing this game too long. Just be glad everyone they didn't go live with this or all your tr caches would have been lost. I've been waiting on my main with an empty tr cache for almost three weeks so I can tr immidiatelly
 

TroggyTrog

Well-known member
I know it won't fix things, but here are some suggestions for addressing some of the BtC gear that is keeping TR Caches filled to the gills:

In ESO, they have a sticker book system. It's a UI that you can use to track your collection of gear you've looted over the years on all your characters. You can craft these items using a crafting system in that game. The more gear from a zone or dungeon you've collected makes the costs of crafting the items, for that zone or dungeon, cheaper. The nice thing is, players don't have to hoard as many items in the game, as they can just craft those items after they've collected them even just once.

Another idea is to just make a lot of the BtC items in, at least, the older content of the game, BtA. Say like pre-Ravenloft xpack, or pre-Sharn or something; "anything over 5 years old" perhaps. This would allow the movement of items by the same player on the same account, but not flood the server with items that are behind pay-walls or harder to get, or only raid accessible. It certainly would have helped in this situation, as from what I'm reading most players commenting here have several toons that are over capacity in their TR Caches. Meanwhile we've just been given 100 Shared Bank Slots (and are about to be given about 800+ inventory and character bank slots for free with the +10 Character Slots). I think 900 Slots would cover a lot of the TR Cache problems we're facing, as long as the items weren't BtC. I'm not suggesting using Wishes of Inheritence, as was suggested earlier. As those are highly valuable, and costly items on the DDO Store. But, I am suggesting that a lot of older gear could be recoded from BtC to BtA, or in some cases even become not Bound at all.

The former suggestion would take months for them to code and implement. I imagine the latter suggestion could be done in a few weeks, or even less. Either way, it probably won't be useful at this point to fix the current issue. But, it's something that SSG should think about.
 

Natashaelle

Time Bandit
IMO --- because of this UTTER FIASCO there really does need to be some kind of free character bank space coupon code !!
 

Natashaelle

Time Bandit
I foresaw this. Man I'm a prophet. Or I've been playing this game too long. Just be glad everyone they didn't go live with this or all your tr caches would have been lost. I've been waiting on my main with an empty tr cache for almost three weeks so I can tr immidiatelly
My Main has an empty TR Cache ATM but it's just sheer dumb luck that my ongoing project of slowly clearing the Cache of junk or putting it in shared bank, and cleaning up my kit over the course of my last few voyages on the TR train, finally reached its conclusion last week. Dumb luck too that she happens to be at cap and not quite ready for ETR > TR.

My non- first life alts though ? A COMPLETE MESS !!
 

TroggyTrog

Well-known member
Along with that, please announce what will happen if a character transfers to the new server with a completely full inventory and then loses Favor-based inventory space.
We also need a clear explanation of what happens if that causes an overflow and the player performs a TR in that state.
That's an interesting point. Do the 40 bank slots from the two tiers of House K favor and the 40 inventory slots from the two tiers of Coin Lords favor carry over properly to the 64-bit servers? Have they tested this thoroughly to make 100% sure? Because we do know that the similar, but not the same, favor animals of Universal Trees and Classes and Races that have been mentioned are currently bugged, with a need for a work-around by SSG (a free coupon or what not). Sure the latter are different than the House K and Coin Lords favor rewards in that they're offered via the DDO Market and/or DDO Store as well as favor. But, have they truly tested all of this? And what about the skill point and hit point favor rewards? Have they tested to make sure these carry over as well? I don't recall talk on all of this, but I may have missed something over the past few weeks. I do recall Cordovan saying they weren't sure about unlocked 32-point builds being problematic. Hmmm.
 

bsrasmus

Active member
Could be Thursday morning Eastern time if possible. Whether we actually go Thursday morning is something we are more likely to know tomorrow.
It sounds like the need to clear the Reincarnation Cache is going to cause a revolt amongst the players. Lots of people deleting the game. Any chance that SSG will extend the transfer deadline until you can find a way to not require players to empty the cache?
 

Jaspar

Well-known member
It sounds like the need to clear the Reincarnation Cache is going to cause a revolt amongst the players. Lots of people deleting the game. Any chance that SSG will extend the transfer deadline until you can find a way to not require players to empty the cache?

My bet is no more than a handful will quit the game.

The chicken little responses will be replaced by action and clearing of caches.
 

Smokewolf

Frequently banned member.
I am generally supportive in my opinions of SSG and the people who make up SSG.

This could have been avoided had they: 1) Left Cormyr Server unavailable to players; 2) Set the date for the transfers a week later; 3) Today done the upload of the pack and transfer software to the Cormyr server to test-in-advance.

Had they done this they would have seen what they saw today as they tried to upload it to Cormyr and the other 3 servers. Then they could have had time to correct without having to delay a posted event.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Instead, we are playtesters in a system with little to no QA.
 

Morrikkan

Member
this is a shitstorm, a pr worst nightmare. Heads should roll , BUT this is a game run by long time colleges and friends and then you cant fire people and the **** just rises. they had 3 test servers you would think they did some test runs in all possible settings BEFORE you communicate the arrival with a deadline to start up the new worlds. but hey we all seen this coming.
 

Smokewolf

Frequently banned member.
My bet is no more than a handful will quit the game.

The chicken little responses will be replaced by action and clearing of caches.
Maybe... but I do expect a fair bit of, "I taking a break from DDO". From those maybe 80% will actually return.
 

kmoustakas

Scourge of Xaos
My Main has an empty TR Cache ATM but it's just sheer dumb luck that my ongoing project of slowly clearing the Cache of junk or putting it in shared bank, and cleaning up my kit over the course of my last few voyages on the TR train, finally reached its conclusion last week. Dumb luck too that she happens to be at cap and not quite ready for ETR > TR.

My non- first life alts though ? A COMPLETE MESS !!
Yeah, I have a number of bank toons I tr'ed for extra tr cache space. I don't think they are all going to make it. Clearing the TR cache is the worst thing in this game, worse than lag. Actually removing items from the tr cache causes lag on it's own, can't even just click through them. Doing it for bank toons? Torture.
 

Bracelet

Well-known member
I probably have 200+ btc items in my TR cache. If you take away coin lord and house k favor, my character bank (120) plus inventory (100) will almost exclusively be btc items. I will have 20 or so slots, plus 17 equipment slots to work with. That’s a scary thought. We begged and begged to at least make minor artifacts bta. And yet here we are.
 
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Pano

Grandmaster of Seriousness
We are working to debut our new 64-bit game worlds and enable free character transfers as quickly as we can, and we expect to have further guidance on timing within the next 24 hours. One of the changes we are making requires a change in our transfer process and guidance, which is that when transfers and worlds are available, characters will not be able to Pack until they have removed items from their Reincarnation Cache. We will have more information on specific timing of the opening of our new worlds as soon as we can. Thank you!
I think it might be the language barrier (not a native speaker), but as I read it... - If I want to stay at cap, I have to literally fill my inventory up with all the BtC items from the cache? My Gnome with 24 str will be thrilled carrying all the heavy armors and other staff around. Not to mention I dont have enough bank space to place all the BtC out of the cache and still have all the clickies/scrolls/bags/potions in my inventory...

Surely something was lost in translation in my head.
 

Jaspar

Well-known member
Maybe... but I do expect a fair bit of, "I taking a break from DDO". From those maybe 80% will actually return.

If they take a break from the game and havent cleared their cache and moved over to the 64 bit servers then there is a big risk their toons will be deleted. I doubt too many will take that risk.
 

healertank

Well-known member
SSG next announcement: none of your gear in banks will transfer so please use all your stuff you can't fit on 1 toon to give sentient experience to gems. Everyone now will get 3 free sentient gems to fill up.

This will greatly reduce lag because no one will have 1000 bound to character items anymore and we will make all items in game super rare drops of 0.00001 % so we foresee no banking problems ever again.. oh and on the side it will mean a major uptick in the value of cannith crafting system. Next day SSG: we have a sale going on for cannith crafting items and supplies.
 

FaceDancer

Olde Wurm
Surely something was lost in translation in my head.
Your translation is quite good! 😬 My gnome toon did a reincarnation to start fresh on the new server so, less space overall plus is super weak. Encumbered and about half full?
 
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