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[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

There's no need for it though, there's so many things broken in this game thats it laughable, things not working properly that get discovered by the player base and take months if not years to fix because fixing it is beneficial for the player base, and this multi cursing method being bugged is beneficial for the player base so what happens? It's fixed within weeks

I know of enhancements and ED enhancements that do more than they should but I need to take them because they are beneficial without supplying the extra, should I get in trouble for knowing it does it and doing it anyway? If ssg could just learn to code and stop breaking their game things would be a lot better ?

I get what you're saying to an extent but disagree with the philosophy that seeks to lay the blame with SSG entirely. If you're taking advantage of something you know is broken, then you should be bug reporting it. Not doing so doesn't make you a bad person of course, but it does mean you're in no position to complain when it's fixed.

Someone mentioned to me in game earlier that this particular exploit is set out on another forum, and if that's the case, I can easily see how SSG would act to address it as they have here. I have zero sympathy for that lot given their history of cheating at every turn.

But for clarity, the first priority should be to ensure the innocent are not collectively punished.?

And as Mindos has pointed out, it's the innocent who will likely have less resources available to mitigate the impact. ?

 

[Soulcial]

• We have corrected a bug that could allow players to put more than one Curse from the Deck of Many Treasures onto an item. Characters that have more than one Curse on a particular item have had those Curses removed and replaced with Curse of the Overloaded, which must be removed with a Card of Curse Cleansing before any new Curses can be applied.

Ouchy? ??

If they'd sell curse cleansers instead of making it rarer than nebula fragments this would not have been a problem in the majority of cases.

 

[Soulcial]

I get what you're saying to an extent but disagree with the philosophy that seeks to lay the blame with SSG entirely. If you're taking advantage of something you know is broken, then you should be bug reporting it. Not doing so doesn't make you a bad person of course, but it does mean you're in no position to complain when it's fixed.

Someone mentioned to me in game earlier that this particular exploit is set out on another forum, and if that's the case, I can easily see how SSG would act to address it as they have here. I have zero sympathy for that lot given their history of cheating at every turn.

But for clarity, the first priority should be to ensure the innocent are not collectively punished.?

And as Mindos has pointed out, it's the innocent who will likely have less resources available to mitigate the impact. ?

Nobody has enough resources to cleanse all their gear. The Curse cleansers cost over a thousand shards. Good luck even finding 20k shards worth of Curse cleansers on the shard auction house.

 

[drachenboy115]

I get what you're saying to an extent but disagree with the philosophy that seeks to lay the blame with SSG entirely. If you're taking advantage of something you know is broken, then you should be bug reporting it. Not doing so doesn't make you a bad person of course, but it does mean you're in no position to complain when it's fixed.

Someone mentioned to me in game earlier that this particular exploit is set out on another forum, and if that's the case, I can easily see how SSG would act to address it as they have here. I have zero sympathy for that lot given their history of cheating at every turn.

But for clarity, the first priority should be to ensure the innocent are not collectively punished.?

And as Mindos has pointed out, it's the innocent who will likely have less resources available to mitigate the impact. ?

You missed the point there pretty bad, there's numerous bugs in this game that have been reported hundreds of times over and SSG has not gotten around to fixing them because it would benefit the player base...but every time there's a bug that's even remotely beneficial to the player base its fixed within weeks if not days compared to months/years to fix detrimental bugs to their player base. It's an extremely poor showing of customer service. This fix is vindictive as someone said, its like ssg is trying to show us that they're our daddy, it's unnecessary to do what they're doing instead of just clearing the items ESPECIALLY since items could randomly receive up to 4 curses without even being cursed in the first place. It shows that this is indeed an SSG issue because they released a broken system even without the exploiting due to their poor coding

Also technically speaking the double cursing method isn't really an exploit since you temporarily remove the first curse applied to an item...temporarily but it's still removed. Seems WAI to me.

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

No. I'm well aware of the fix good bugs first mentality. I've complained about it in the past, though don't think the case is as absolute as you posit. None of that excuses exploiting though IMO.

To be fair, I don't think anyone is really complaining about the fix, but more the punishment. If you're innocent I absolutely accept that it's unfair. If you're not though, best pipe down, as you've no leg to stand on.

 

[Sophie The Cat Burglar]

*wakes up and pulls some hair out of her mouth*
*looks at the clock*
*gets out of bed*
Cold.
*puts on a robe, picks up the computer, and returns to bed*
*opens the computer, sees the DDO Forums tab, and refreshes it*
Oh, right. Anniversary.
*clicks on the Release Notes link*
Equipment with two curses... Oh. Oh. Whatever.
*reads a little more*
Wall of text. Wall of text. Wall of text.
*gets to the bottom*
Guess I need to check later to see if there is anything new from the Anniversary Party. Probably not.
*reads the release notes comments*
Complaint. Compliant. Whining. Complaint. Begging. Clueless. Complaint. Begging. False indignation. Complaint. Complaint. Compliant.
*shakes head slowly from side to side*
*closes the computer, puts it on the floor next to the bed, and stares at the ceiling*
I need to put the garbage cans back to the side of the house.

 

[Onyxia2016]

*smh* Clearly no amount of feedback made any bit of difference. Actually, no I take that back... you took the first feedback and nerfed it worse with the Max Caster level. Nerfs were incoming like cow-from-orbit, again, no matter what was said. Obstinately, determined to make EPIC abilities feel no better and in some cases worse than HEROIC spells. And yet you need a survey to ask why some of us don't feel the impetus to advertise the game to new friends.

This is why I did not even attempt to apply for the players counsel. I see its feedback being ignored just like the lam feedback.
Not worth the frustration to me.

 

[IronEnemaz]

Also technically speaking the double cursing method isn't really an exploit since you temporarily remove the first curse applied to an item...temporarily but it's still removed. Seems WAI to me.

Oh boy - that's some first class BS

 

[Amoneth]

Whilst there's still some time. Can anyone give me any details regarding their multi-cursed by Reincarnation (when you never cursed them) items? If I can get conclusive proof how it happening by replicating it (an uncursed item becoming cursed or multi-cursed), I could try and wrangle something from the Devs.

What did you guys do to get multi-cursed items via Reincarnation? As best as you can remember. Which Reincarnation type? Did you have any other items (including of the same type; so if helm was multi-cursed without cursing it did you have another that was?) that were cursed or multi-cursed during the Reincarnation? How many?

J1NG

I'm one of those people who have some items with two curses on, four items across two toons. I didn't even know it was TR related until I read this post, I just noticed one day that they had gone from having one curse to two. Thanks for treating me like an exploiter SSG, much appreciated ?

 

[The Narc]

This is why I did not even attempt to apply for the players counsel. I see its feedback being ignored just like the lam feedback.
Not worth the frustration to me.

Who would want to put a self imposed gag and not be able to speak about incoming changes. I for one would never agree to being locked behind a gag order contract, it seems to me people that want to be the council are clearly looking for status empowerment. I would not sell my soul in such a manner.

 

[The Narc]

I'm one of those people who have some items with two curses on, four items across two toons. I didn't even know it was TR related until I read this post, I just noticed one day that they had gone from having one curse to two. Thanks for treating me like an exploiter SSG, much appreciated ?

I will take my lumps as an innocent as long as they make it highly inconvenient for the exploiters, i just wish they would get better at tracking the dupers and permanently ban them.

 

[DBZ]

Any account with more then 12 cleansers and or dual cursed and it will probably be alot more should be banned

 

[The Narc]

Any account with more then 12 cleansers and or dual cursed and it will probably be alot more should be banned

This or seriously spend some of your resources to investigate the accounts that are getting transactions were cards are commonly being passed find the root of the passing see if its duping items like the cards and if they are passing multiples to main accounts thru this system just ban the main account.

Note to the innocents if someone is passing you multiples of crazy rare good stuff it is probably being duped and avoid.

SSG the very nature of duping destroy your whole money making structure, spend some money and catch the main account users and destroy their accounts completely!!

???

 

[HoopleHead]

Atleast the game is now fully balanced

lop-sided on both sides?

 

[J1NG]

Any account with more then 12 cleansers and or dual cursed and it will probably be alot more should be banned

Multi-Cursed items can be innocently obtained (proof obtained and sent in, at least 1 video, wokring on uploading more right now to SSG). Therefore this would drag false positives in or at least, those who did not intend to deliberately have Multi-Curse items.

I do not believe SSG has a way to track several of the Multi-Curse methods that can be performaned innocently, and thus this will cause Mabar Ban 2.0.

J1NG

 

[Aelonwy]

Yesterday was the first I even heard of double-cursed anything. I TR-ed 2 or 3 characters after they introduced cards (2 epic, one heroic TR, IIRC) nothing in my banks has been messed up. Have I been safe because I never used the curse cards on live at all? I tried them on Lamannia and the whole random crating quality of them made me feel they were a colossal waste of time and effort. Should I be concerned about taking the rest of the things from the heroic TR-ed character's TR cache? Or nothing was ever cursed to begin with so I am okay? I hate bank bugs they make me loose confidence in the whole system, especially TR bank bugs.

 

[drachenboy115]

I will take my lumps as an innocent as long as they make it highly inconvenient for the exploiters, i just wish they would get better at tracking the dupers and permanently ban them.

Multi cursing has nothing connected to duping afaik...unfortunately

Oh boy - that's some first class BS

Because it's true? The effect is temporarily removed from the item using something easily accessible in the game and making you able to curse it again. How is that an exploit?

 

[mikarddo]

Who would want to put a self imposed gag and not be able to speak about incoming changes. I for one would never agree to being locked behind a gag order contract, it seems to me people that want to be the council are clearly looking for status empowerment. I would not sell my soul in such a manner.

You seem to be overlooking that being on the Council does not in any shape or form prevent you from posting freely on the open part of the forum. You just cannot reveal anything that learned on the council before it has been revealed.

So, your "gag order" comment seems very out of place to me

 

[J1NG]

Have I been safe because I never used the curse cards on live at all? I tried them on Lamannia and the whole random crating quality of them made me feel they were a colossal waste of time and effort. Should I be concerned about taking the rest of the things from the heroic TR-ed character's TR cache? Or nothing was ever cursed to begin with so I am okay? I hate bank bugs they make me loose confidence in the whole system, especially TR bank bugs.

I can not give specifics (clearly as it'll be detailing replication), but I can tell you that tests thus far is unable to reproduce any "Uncursed" items from suddenly becoming "Cursed". So you (and others) should be safe from just Reincarnating and playing as normal and not coming close to using the Curse system.

J1NG

 

[The Narc]

Multi-Cursed items can be innocently obtained (proof obtained and sent in, at least 1 video, wokring on uploading more right now to SSG). Therefore this would drag false positives in or at least, those who did not intend to deliberately have Multi-Curse items.

I do not believe SSG has a way to track several of the Multi-Curse methods that can be performaned innocently, and thus this will cause Mabar Ban 2.0.

J1NG

Nonbut they do have the ability to track cleansers tha have been mailed, traded and auctioned and thereby are able to track there origins and destinations. Lets track these people down and nail them to the stake and destroy their main accounts utterly, and do it in a good way, delete all their gear and delete any toons with past lives and put a big label on any of their remaking toons above their head saying exploiter. Leave them with a shell of an account and all their anger so some will still feel the need to fight their way back and pay lots of cash to do so,

Lol this punishment would remind me of the “shame shame shame” scene from game of thrones. Stripped from their unearned position of power to a measly nothing. Lol although i would prefer a good old back alley beating for these folk or even better a gladiator ring feeding to the lions. Of course thats just simply because i have zero sympathy for the lowest dredges in the world.