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Shear-buckler

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Its a wonder that players can even run elite these days after a decade of nerf after nerf. By the sound of it from the community players should be relegated to playing on Casual at this point.
 

Vua

Mostly A Douche
If people want to post and actively participate in discussion regarding the lag, I suggest they join the official discord where most the discussion takes place.
If we all follow them over, they'll likely come back here to get away from us. I have a guy that gives me updates. I just come here for the attention heaped upon me by angry Greeks.
 
The worst thing about everything ssg does is that they rarely if ever communicate in a thorough honest manner.
People would be less angry if they explained some choices.
To be fair, they did. They explained exactly why they were nerfing attack speed on xbows. I don't expect everyone to be 100% up to date on this game, everyone has their lives. But they have made strides in providing clear communication. You just have to know where to look.

They are doing what they can.
 

AbyssalMage

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Does anyone go on discord to see the active discussion from the devs on the issues causing the lag and how they are actively solving it on the brand new server? Or is this forum really just therapy at this point.
I got caught up in the “verification” process that they imposed and quit. So it would be nice if our community liaison did their job and posted relevant information on the official DDO boards.

Then again, divide and conquer is a novel concept the producers are trying. And it looks to be successful.
 

Tanis

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I must be playing a very strange build because I've not noticed any difference using a repeating xbow on elite lvl3/4s ie waterworks, kobold assault etc. I was zerging before and I'm still zerging. Maybe it takes slightly longer to complete quests but..are guys complaining because their builds no longer work...or their zerging takes longer?
It’s longer to complete that’s a nerf

It feels like I’m lagging even without lag it shoots so slow now
 

Tanis

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To be fair, they did. They explained exactly why they were nerfing attack speed on xbows. I don't expect everyone to be 100% up to date on this game, everyone has their lives. But they have made strides in providing clear communication. You just have to know where to look.

They are doing what they can.
This is part of the problem with communication from the Devs here it’s rarely here and it’s in too many different places having to be brought here by other players half the time
 

Felsyn

Pretty Normal Weird Guy
I got caught up in the “verification” process that they imposed and quit. So it would be nice if our community liaison did their job and posted relevant information on the official DDO boards.

Then again, divide and conquer is a novel concept the producers are trying. And it looks to be successful.
Here is a summary for you,
During the initial issues on Cormyr, Tolero writes in response to various messages:
1. (yeah that one was also set. The only setting being stubborn is the Saltmarsh one I'm not sure why yet we're still digging into that and that might take until tomorrow to figure out)
2. Yeah that one, and several of the other auto applied ones, am still investigating. We have a small lead on it though that we're chasing.
3. Yeah that is a new mystery. There is a certain setting that can cause that, but I checked that already and that's set correctly. So something more complicated is going on.
After it relaunched:
4. We also changed it so the Harbor Market and Korthos can't, you know, all end up trying to share the same exact server resource
😬
it was a bit heavy
5. Yeah parsing the data to see what it's doing atm
6.
A little game server anatomy as ppl are checking their locs:
  • The only valid numbers for server ranges are between 1 through 6 (so 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26; 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36)
  • Ranges 11 - 16 are currently all devoted to the highest traffic public areas, which isolates them from touching dungeon resources
  • But not all public areas are isolated in that way. So it’s still possible to be sharing a resource with something public.
  • As an area loses people, it reforms later on a different resource. But “busy” areas tend to say on the same server number by virtue of people being in there often.
  • Copies of the same place can end up on different servers (both public and private). The big areas (e.g. Harbor) will stay in one server but the smaller ones (e.g. The Twelve) will tend to bop around.
7. Server 22 has been struggling but I can't identify a cause yet. But Keep public is being suspiciously tame as compared to prior days. So I have some ideas of what might be happening but gotta talk to the Engineers to see if my theory holds any water
8. FYI just so folks know what I'm doing with the loc data: so I've hit an important milestone where for the last good while, i can predict which server is about to experience a lag wave 4 mins before it happens (I take a measure, make the prediction, then confirm if the alarms and locs for that predicted server are popping off). Engineers and I will be meeting up tomorrow to unpack these findings. Thank you for posting your locs! The locs were allowing me to confirm the predictions. This is very important and a huge lead.

The Breakthrough:

9. This is the first time with this lag that I've ever been able to see it before it happened! Normally it's always after-the-fact. And there's enough quantity of servers that it's statistically unlikely for me to be "lucky guessing" that many times in a row

etc, etc
 

Balvix

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If people want to post and actively participate in discussion regarding the lag, I suggest they join the official discord where most the discussion takes place.
Do you think they would listen to you there and not here? Are you suggesting that they completely ignore this forum they created for the players to voice their opinions? I'm not trying to be combative, but I believe the experience would be the exact same there as it is here, only instead of waiting for a post you could hear them ignore you in real time.
 

Felsyn

Pretty Normal Weird Guy
Do you think they would listen to you there and not here? Are you suggesting that they completely ignore this forum they created for the players to voice their opinions? I'm not trying to be combative, but I believe the experience would be the exact same there as it is here, only instead of waiting for a post you could hear them ignore you in real time.
No, I think many of the people on the forums are not up to date with what is going on in discord. I feel they respond more often there for whatever reason.
 

Positive thinking

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No, I think many of the people on the forums are not up to date with what is going on in discord. I feel they respond more often there for whatever reason.
Well you are entitled to your feelings.

I feel many people would prefer if they kept their clients up to date on this forum without having to give their personal information.
 

Ryiah

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No, I think many of the people on the forums are not up to date with what is going on in discord. I feel they respond more often there for whatever reason.
SSG definitely responds more often on Discord. It's why despite not initially wanting to join yet another server I ultimately chose to, and in just a few days I've seen more responses from Severlin, Tolero, and Cordovan than I have in months on the forums. SteelStar is very talkative here but he's just as talkative on Discord too. At this point the only reason to log onto the forums is to talk to players who were more stubborn than I was to join.
 
As someone in the IT sector, if you are terrified of your private information being released, (which id put 1000s of dollars down to bet it already has, and worrying about it at this point is too little too late) why wouldn't you just spin up a google voice number, create a discord linked to that then join the server.
 
I got caught up in the “verification” process that they imposed and quit. So it would be nice if our community liaison did their job and posted relevant information on the official DDO boards.

Then again, divide and conquer is a novel concept the producers are trying. And it looks to be successful.

well, this is needlessly dramatic. what exactly are they conquering?
 

Vua

Mostly A Douche
It’s longer to complete that’s a nerf

It feels like I’m lagging even without lag it shoots so slow now
Maybe that was the plan. If you can't fix the lag, make it so we can't tell when it's happening.

Next will be a 6 second delay after swinging or firing your weapon before you can move again.
 
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