Epic Quiver of Alacrity
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Fisto Mk I
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Buying or stealing account with toon who have it?
Smokewolf
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Sacrifice a kidney.
Dragavon
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And you get raid runes in MoD. 10 elite completions and you can buy any item you want.
Bjond
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It's pretty easy to solo MOD these days. There's some learning frustration, but once you pay that cost, you're set for farming it, which is how I got mine.
Hmm. Casters might have it rough due to SP drain and low single-target DPS, but it's an odd item to want for a caster. It's very easy on ranged. Melee need some speed to avoid getting yanked back before they can make progress on the off-dais fights.
BTW, it's easy to forget about the Concentration-50 line on the quiver when you intend it for a non-casting character, BUT if your concentration is negative, you won't be able to use scrolls (they just fail).
Dragavon
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Only if something hits you
Bjond
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That's what I thought, too, before I got one, "Yeah, I almost never hot-scroll, it's just rez & teleport. I won't even notice the difference." But, nope, they just outright failed every time.Only if something hits you
Fortunately that character had *just* enough base concentration that diamond+20 gave it around +3 and that was enough to let it cast again. Now, I build it in when I know it will or might end up using quiver.
IMHO, the quiver was initially designed for ranged and the conc-50 added to keep it out of the hands of shuri-throwers, but then they added purifying with blunt-to-damage. So, only my melee sometimes uses epic alacrity now.
Dragavon
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That must be something else, I have never had problems using scrolls while out of combat with the quiver equipped.
FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted
If you read my posts you have already lost
is there a way to pull [x] item without running [y quest that is only place it drops]
I'm sorry, what?
I'm sorry, what?
Sylvanush
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I think in the past was an anniversary gift when you could choose from different raids items. https://ddowiki.com/page/15th_Anniversary
Anurakh
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I didn't know that! It's good to learn that.
The conc penalty was for monks, but the popular build at the time wasn't the shuri-thrower, it was the monkcher, which had dominated the meta for several years. The devs wanted to introduce quiver for archer rangers, punishing the dominant build (I thought it was a terrible way to boost rangers), and at the time, xbows were absolutely terrible too.
When monks later became terrible builds (it would be a while before the monk would raise its head again), the penalty wasn't removed. Devs should remove it; it doesn't serve any useful purpose now And even at the time, it was a terrible way to make it more attractive to rangers than to monks. And a great way to make the epic quiver much worse than the heroic one xD.
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Fisto Mk I
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No. It's trade-off: -50 Concentration for 8 DS, normal available much later, at ML27 raid gear or ML28 non-raid, and some other nice effects. Without drawback it must be just another mandatory BiS item, convert all other quivers exclude Epic Purifying into useless garbage.
Bobbryan2
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I don't really have a dog in this fight, but that seems like a rather unreasonable trade-off to me. You're talking about -50 concentration for getting +2 doubleshot over expected?
The only reason it would be bis, is because quivers suck in general.
Fisto Mk I
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Someone holding a gun to your temple, forcing you to make that choice?
It's a bad choice for most of my toons, so they don't use it. For some, a good one.
+3, not +2.
This part is correct.
Bobbryan2
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So... it's a completely ridiculous trade-off that a couple of your characters use because they don't have any need for concentration?Someone holding a gun to your temple, forcing you to make that choice?
It's a bad choice for most of my toons, so they don't use it. For some, a good one.
Seems balanced.
Bjond
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I never grab it for the doubleshot. I use it for the insightful sneak bonus. There are other ways to get i.sneak, but tetris often blocks those, leaving the quiver slot empty and lonesome.