Epicsoul's Cyborg Build

[Epicsoul]

You seem to be a lot of emphasis on lightning spell power, how much imbue dice do you shoot for like 21 dice? That is something I personally go for less as a lot of mobs are lightning immune or resistant, and it's not like you have 42 dice.

One of the stated goals for me was for this to "feel" like an Artificer. I know that's subjective, but the imbue and Rune Arm are part of that equation for me. But to answer your question, I'm roughly around 1,000 Electric Spell Power in Reaper, and I have 20 dice. That's an average of 700 damage per bolt before any debuffs. Given my decision to go pure, there are no other alternatives more attractive than that.

 

[Hobgoblin]

is it worth it to get 1 more dice? for the mantle?

 

[Epicsoul]

is it worth it to get 1 more dice? for the mantle?

I'm not following. Can you explain your question further?

 

[Pinecone]

Stay Good and the equivalent procs 1d77 extra damage for every 7 imbue dice. I was also curious about this as it seems to be a go-to goal to get the bonus imbue dice to the next increment of 7 if possible

 

[Epicsoul]

Stay Good and the equivalent procs 1d77 extra damage for every 7 imbue dice. I was also curious about this as it seems to be a go-to goal to get the bonus imbue dice to the next increment of 7 if possible

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

It's quite simple to get the extra dice if you'd like. Just cast Improved Elemental Weapons on yourself for an extra 2, which isn't included in the number I stated.

 

[EinarMal]

One of the stated goals for me was for this to "feel" like an Artificer. I know that's subjective, but the imbue and Rune Arm are part of that equation for me. But to answer your question, I'm roughly around 1,000 Electric Spell Power in Reaper, and I have 20 dice. That's an average of 700 damage per bolt before any debuffs. Given my decision to go pure, there are no other alternatives more attractive than that.

Makes sense, I have 21 imbue dice as well, I just don't take the extra Epic Spellpower feat and take Scion of Arborea. I have more like 800 electric spellpower. Went for Scion of Arborea and figured sometimes Imbue doesn't work, RP always works, not based on any math.

Do you mess with from the shadows and dark imbuement proccing from that at all? I've been playing around with that takes some macro or finger dancing but you could lead up to fight with stealth + from the shadows + tumble lol....

 

[Frantik]

Hi Epicsoul, and thank you for sharing your build. A couple of questions:
- Fatesinger: you show 3 EDP into tier 1 Music of the Queen and 1 EDP into tier 2 Pianissimo; do you see any benefits from inversing this choice?
- Fatesinger: you haven't taken Arrow of Discord, have you tested this and does stun not really work at end game/high reaper? Is the damage too low?
Thanks!

 

[Spook]

Hi Epicsoul, and thank you for sharing your build. A couple of questions:
- Fatesinger: you show 3 EDP into tier 1 Music of the Queen and 1 EDP into tier 2 Pianissimo; do you see any benefits from inversing this choice?
- Fatesinger: you haven't taken Arrow of Discord, have you tested this and does stun not really work at end game/high reaper? Is the damage too low?
Thanks!

By my napkin math threat is already at -90 so 3 in pianissmo would be wasted points you could go 2/2 if getting to -100 threat was important to you I havent played the build but I suspect 90% is probably good enough.

30 Shiradi
30 Shadowdancer
15 quiver
15 Fatesinger
90 Total

I think arrow of discord will be personal preference - the build already has plenty of aoe. The DC will be about 120 ish if you swap an augment for stunning. I like it but not sure I would take it on this build.

 

[EinarMal]

By my napkin math threat is already at -90 so 3 in pianissmo would be wasted points you could go 2/2 if getting to -100 threat was important to you I havent played the build but I suspect 90% is probably good enough.

30 Shiradi
30 Shadowdancer
15 quiver
15 Fatesinger
90 Total

I think arrow of discord will be personal preference - the build already has plenty of aoe. The DC will be about 120 ish if you swap an augment for stunning. I like it but not sure I would take it on this build.

Discord only fires one bolt. So it’s another potential gotcha as if you are not hitting multiple targets probably a DPS loss vs four bolts.

Definitely situational at best. I dropped it personally.

 

[Guntango]

By my napkin math threat is already at -90 so 3 in pianissmo would be wasted points you could go 2/2 if getting to -100 threat was important to you I havent played the build but I suspect 90% is probably good enough.

30 Shiradi
30 Shadowdancer
15 quiver
15 Fatesinger
90 Total

I think arrow of discord will be personal preference - the build already has plenty of aoe. The DC will be about 120 ish if you swap an augment for stunning. I like it but not sure I would take it on this build.

-113 isn't enough. XO

 

[Frantik]

A thought... did you consider spending less AP into Harper and investing 11 AP into Horizon Walker for more attack/tumble/spot/dodge and Haste?

 

[Spook]

A thought... did you consider spending less AP into Harper and investing 11 AP into Horizon Walker for more attack/tumble/spot/dodge and Haste?

Huh thats a terrible idea

harper is a great tree for a hybrid ranged power and spell power - yes please.

edit: also haste doesnt stack with 20% attack speed so its meh for ranged builds since they nerfed it from 21%

 

[Epicsoul]

A thought... did you consider spending less AP into Harper and investing 11 AP into Horizon Walker for more attack/tumble/spot/dodge and Haste?

Hey Frantik, thanks for the question.

While there are certainly utility focused abilities I want, those aren’t among my list. However, the build has plenty of power, and it’s possible to sacrifice some for utility if your playstyle requires it.

 

[Spook]

Hey Frantik, thanks for the question.

While there are certainly utility focused abilities I want, those aren’t among my list. However, the build has plenty of power, and it’s possible to sacrifice some for utility if your playstyle requires it.

Gosh darn it you are too nice. Be rude and condescending at least once pls - for me?

 

[Epicsoul]

Gosh darn it you are too nice. Be rude and condescending at least once pls - for me?

Hey Spook, thanks for the question.

While rudeness and condescension are certainly qualities I have extensive practice in, I try not to exercise these traits when responding to questions regarding my builds. However, I value your feedback and will take your request into consideration.

 

[I dont Like gimps]

Gosh darn it you are too nice. Be rude and condescending at least once pls - for me?

Epic soul =/= gunga/dom/me

 

[I dont Like gimps]

Gosh darn it you are too nice. Be rude and condescending at least once pls - for me?

the true Mastery of this is to be Like Kalibano in his build threads
Be an absolute D head but flower your language up just enuf so it seems like an empathic response that it seems to value the other persons feedback mans a walking euphemism and shant be on this forum bruh

 

[Hobgoblin]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

It's quite simple to get the extra dice if you'd like. Just cast Improved Elemental Weapons on yourself for an extra 2, which isn't included in the number I stated.

ty sorry was outta town and didnt see this - i didnt realize that you were at the number before ele weapons

 

[Frantik]

ty sorry was outta town and didnt see this - i didnt realize that you were at the number before ele weapons

But an extremely valid question! I'm testing out a fun run first lifer on this wonderful build and hopefully downsizing some of the expectations to a reasonable level... but the number of extra imbue die cannot be one of them. 19 + 2 from IEW spell made me think:

Epicsoul stated 2 from spell + 19 imbue die:
BE 4
Harbinger of Chaos 2
Legendary feat 3
Shiradi 3
Named item set (I'm thinking Vecna) 3
Epic Destiny Feat (lvl 31) 1

which gives 16+2 (I spell this out for people like Spook!)

I'm guessing the other 3 are from filigrees so i need to farm those; I'm thinking of trying to fit in 4 from filigrees and spend my ED feat on something else such as extra helpless damage. FYI, as a first life test, I'm not going the dodge/mobility/sotr approach but taking SWF feats instead for more health.

 

[Guntango]

Epic soul =/= gunga/dom/me

We’re all perfectly charming in our own ways.