Ex-VIP. Only post-shutdown proofing will get me back.

misterski

Well-known member
Where did you get the notion you own anything in this game? Even all the content you've paid for over the years isn't owned by you. You paid for access, not ownership.
 

Jummby

Well-known member
Where did you get the notion you own anything in this game? Even all the content you've paid for over the years isn't owned by you. You paid for access, not ownership.
People by packs marketed as collector packs? What are they collecting?
 

Felsyn

Pretty Normal Weird Guy
as a serious answer:
Licensing would prevent them from allowing us to get access to the source code of DDO.
Licensing would prevent them from allowing us to run our own private servers.
LOTRO prevents them from allowing us access to the tools still being used there.
LOTRO prevents them from allowing us access to any shared source code that could lead to exploits or vulnerabilities.

The complex nature of DDO's instancing makes me doubt a homegrown approach to starting our own server if these closed down as well. Even if it stayed offline. They pulled it off with AC2, but that games server is far less complex.

Thankfully DDO isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
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Kanuvan

New member
I would unsubscribe my VIP on the spot if they started spending their finite resources on a offline mode instead of new content, there's plenty of single player D&D games that are way better than DDO at doing a single player experience go play those instead (BG3, Pathfinder, Path of Exile)
 

paddymaxson

Deliberately obtuse
Bad take. Many of us here spent on DDO easily 10s of times over the price of a regular game that we'd normally get to keep forever. The notion that I get to play this game for FREE and that I am some sort of a rogue for asking this is ridiculous.
Hi I am part of the "Many of us" group. That's not what I was getting at at all. I'm not accusing you of being some sort of hanger on who isn't willing to pay for the game. I'm just saying that of all the reasons to withold your cash yours is an almost infintely unlikely outcome. Bad phrasing on my part I guess.

"I'm witholding paying for your game until you make me a guarantee that one day it will be the game I want, here's my list of demands that are extremely unlikely" is I suppose a more expected statement, but still quite pie in the sky.
 

Dendrix Deathblade

Well-known member
There is no chance of what the OP wants happening.

SSG have a licence to use D&D, and at some point that licence will expire. It may or may not be renewed depending on the commercial agreements between SSG and Hasbro (WotC). If not renewed DDO is dead and gone. Putting stuff that they don't own into the public domain is simply never going to happen, not legally.

If you buy a physical copy of the PHB you can't legally scan and put that up on the internet. And that's why the DDO source will never be legally available.
 

Gordo

Well-known member
Cool story, bro. That's like saying if the parts department of my dealership were a publicly traded company, then they would be traded as a penny stock. I guess you can say it, but it makes no sense.
Reading is fundamental.
"If SSG was a public company, the shares would be a penny stock right now".
 

Gordo

Well-known member
There is no chance of what the OP wants happening.

SSG have a licence to use D&D, and at some point that licence will expire. It may or may not be renewed depending on the commercial agreements between SSG and Hasbro (WotC). If not renewed DDO is dead and gone. Putting stuff that they don't own into the public domain is simply never going to happen, not legally.

If you buy a physical copy of the PHB you can't legally scan and put that up on the internet. And that's why the DDO source will never be legally available.
Such a shame that an internationally renown brand is left to such decay like this.

Hard to believe there is no money in the "D&D" name that more money wouldn't flow into it. Maybe a new game entirely would bring in a larger audience?
 

Dude

Well-known member
Reading is fundamental.
"If SSG was a public company, the shares would be a penny stock right now".
Good for you! Embrace the Feywild in your "argument." No need to make sense when you can just sling insults!
 

Yeet

Well-known member
Ubisoft is getting sued for shutting down its servers for its online game, The Crew, and not having post proofing like OP is describing. This is going to become a thing with MMOs, especially considering how much whales spend on those games. Those whales also have the means to start lawsuits.

The outcome of this case will set precedent in the coming years.

Also, even though the case in in California, I think the EU is a player that influences how MMOs operate. If they really took a look at EG7, and games like DDO, there would be issues. Especially in regards to gambling laws. If requiring post-proofing becomes law, fat chance, that will really cause some issues.

DDO has some potential legal struggles on the horizon. Wouldn't be the first time.

 
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