Fast 1-20 builds

Sturmbb

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Alchemist is pretty good, use the Apothecary tree. The negative energy attacks from that are awesome against everything except undead - avoid undead heavy quests.
At 12 switch to the Bombadier tree. Pick the one element you have best equipped stuff to boost for (or plan to get) and take the immunity stripper. Re-buy stuff from Apothecary as enhancement points permit as the 2 negative AoE's are still damn handy, SP efficient killers

Dhampire/Alchemist + the 2 negative energy Apothecary AOE attacks is AWSESOME. Damage the monsters while healing yourself? yes please.
I tried playing alchemist and i just found it very frustrating. The cast speed is really bad and i found 1 in 3 spells failed to cast (this is with no enemies round me and the combat log didnt register it cast, even though my character did the animation and the spell went on Cooldown).
 

The Narc2

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Were does Pure Dark apostate get their extra run speed, is it one of the enhancement trees. I know Barbarian get the run speed automatically, but i couldnt seem to find it on the Pure Dark Apostate.

I must admit, when i did play as the pure dark apostate, i wasnt very impressed. i think the tree tries to do too much and ends up being sub par at everything.
I think the OP was referencing levelling fast thru 1-20 not necessarily moving fast, of course there is a level at which you can pick up a swiftness topaz for 30% speed of the OP doesnt have the quiver. Dark apostate has several options to do damage output, combined with the correct hireling at level 6, 8, 12, 15 questing just to level can be super fast, definitely use the dark apostate to rip thru undead quests.
 
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ozmarddo

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Pure barbarian or pure dark apostate, easy to smash favor out on these, especially if you can use ship buffs and hirelings.
If you make a Dark Apostate, be sure to take the Death Domain. Great SLA and self-healing with Death Auras. Muahahahahahah

-Ozmar the Apostate
 

Bardy

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I think the OP was referencing levelling fast thru 1-20 not necessarily moving fast, of course there is a level at which you can pick up a swiftness topaz for 30% speed of the OP doesnt have the quiver. Dark apostate has several options to do damage output, combined with the correct hireling at level 6, 8, 12, 15 questing just to level can be super fast, definitely use the dark apostate to tip thru undead quests.
Yes, mostly I meant builds that can easily kill mobs and get through dungeons efficiently. Better run speed is definitely part of the equation, but I'd probably rather run a bit slower and have better dps. If a build does both well, that's even better.
 

Bardy

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something i find lacking with a lot of leveling builds is consideration of PROGRESSION. Building a build that levels smoothly/front loads a lot of power through low tier enhancements and low req feats is completely different than making a build that trucks at lvl 18 but is patchwork and crappy up until then (extreme example: shuri build).
Definitely a concern. I don't mind dealing with a few levels of wimpy, but by level 5ish it'd be nice to have reliable power.
 

The Narc2

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Definitely a concern. I don't mind dealing with a few levels of wimpy, but by level 5ish it'd be nice to have reliable power.
Try a human pure dark apostate, hit the metamagics hard, empower maximize quicken heighten

I like to be silver flame for the long bow for additional ranged, look for the bow from kind of a big deal. The bow will be favored weapon and add on the imbue plus all the tree advantages.
 

Sturmbb

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I think the OP was referencing levelling fast thru 1-20 not necessarily moving fast, of course there is a level at which you can pick up a swiftness topaz for 30% speed of the OP doesnt have the quiver. Dark apostate has several options to do damage output, combined with the correct hireling at level 6, 8, 12, 15 questing just to level can be super fast, definitely use the dark apostate to tip thru undead quests.
How strange by the op to pick a class that doesnt have inherent speed increases in the class. For me when thinking about leveling quickly, i think about classes that either move fast or have fast moving abilities. The quicker you can complete the quests the quicker you get the xp and can level.

That is true about the Topaz, but than if you pick a quick moving class than they can get the 30% movement speed on top of their class speed.
 

Sturmbb

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Yes, mostly I meant builds that can easily kill mobs and get through dungeons efficiently. Better run speed is definitely part of the equation, but I'd probably rather run a bit slower and have better dps. If a build does both well, that's even better.
Yea, i think id rather pick something like monk or barbarian if i want fast leveling. lets be honest the game isnt exactly hard (with the right build, gear, knowledge etc). But i always say, you can have the most optimum build, but if you dont actually enjoy playing it, you are defeating the object of the game (for me is to have fun :))
 

Bardy

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How strange by the op to pick a class that doesnt have inherent speed increases in the class. For me when thinking about leveling quickly, i think about classes that either move fast or have fast moving abilities. The quicker you can complete the quests the quicker you get the xp and can level.
Thus this thread was born. I made the paladin, realized I wasn't having much fun with her even though it's a perfectly viable build, and decided to crowd source alternative builds that others have had fun with and see what specific traits make their builds fun.

For movement speed if I had better dps I'd be fine running at +25% from the korthos boots, but stopping to smack each mob a few times feels kind of tedious. Maybe as I get better gear it'll feel better.
 
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