Fighter 2/Wiz 18 Archmage TWF

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I'm trying to make a melee wraith form build. Part of me thinks i'd be better off just doing physical damage with 12 mage/rogue splash or something but idk. So the gameplan on this build would be to cc enemies with evocation and then beat them to death. I take the archmage SLAs in case I wind up being useless and need to pike.

AFAIK maximize and such scale with EK spellblade; if they don't, then our build is looking scuffed.

Tier 4 EK 31 enh- imbues are primary source of damage
Tier 5 Archmage 36 - Grab cyclone/Void SLAs and evocation DC.
tier 1 PM 6 flavor of build, early game healing.
tier 1 vistani 8 - For haste and 20% double strike.
Total 81

Levels:
lvl 1 mage - Empower spell, Maximize spell
lvl 3 mage - Toughness
lvl 5 mage - Heighten spell
lvl 6 mage - Extend spell
lvl 9 mage - Quicken spell
Lvl 10 mage - Spell focus evocation
lvl 11 fighter - Two weapon fighting
lvl 12 mage - Improved two weapon fighting
lvl 15 mage - Enlarge spell
lvl 16 mage - Improved spell focus evocation
lvl 18 mage - Toughness
lvl 20 fighter - GTWF
Swap heighten for toughness.

It'd be cool if I could drop fighter 2 because Vistana has a haste buff, I don't think I can.

I know this build has lower dps than just doing archmage 20 and PM 20 and spellcasting, but it looks cooler. I lose 2 dice from dropping tier 5 EK, but the rest of EK 5 is useless.

AFAIK my most important stats are spell power, double strike, Evocation DC and health because the EK imbues scale with spell power but not spell crit.

 

[Coffey]

Strimtom had a similar build idea you can take a look at:

How to be a death knight for free to play!

The build featured Offhand Versatility but it has been nerfed.

Tier 5 EK is the best DPS again since the nerf i believe.

 

[unbongwah]

AFAIK maximize and such scale with EK spellblade; if they don't, then our build is looking scuffed.

They do not. EK Imbues only benefit from your base Spellpower, not metamagic feats.

Is this a dagger build? If so, you're going to want to put at least 24 APs into Vistani for +1 crit range & multiplier, Double Dagger, and Celerity. Especially if you're NOT taking Improved Knight's Transformation. 41 APs gets you the capstone (+5% attack speed, +20 Melee Power), but this is an AP-constrained build if you want to also invest in EK, PM, and AM.

I'm not seeing Harper Agent. Is that because you don't have it or because you're relying on Imbue damage only?

I feel like this build is kinda half-hearted; neither fully committing to spellcasting nor melee DPS. YMMV but I think it's better to pick one to focus on first and use your leftover feats & APs to support the other.

E.g., melee first, caster second Vistani wizard:

Vistani Wraith
18/1/1 Wizard/Fighter/Dark Hunter, Epic 2
Chaotic Neutral Half-Elf


Level Order

1. Dark Hunter . . 6. Wizard. . . . .11. Wizard. . . . .16. Wizard
2. Wizard . . . . .7. Wizard . . . . 12. Wizard . . . . 17. Wizard
3. Wizard . . . . .8. Wizard . . . . 13. Wizard . . . . 18. Wizard
4. Wizard . . . . .9. Wizard . . . . 14. Wizard . . . . 19. Wizard
5. Wizard . . . . 10. Wizard . . . . 15. Wizard . . . . 20. Fighter


Stats
. . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . .8. . . . . . . . 4: INT
Dexterity . . . 15. . . .+2. . . .8: INT
Constitution. . 15. . . . . . . .12: INT
Intelligence. . 18. . . . . . . .16: INT
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . . . . . .20: INT
Charisma. . . . .8. . . . . . . .


Feats

.1. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
.1 DarkH. :
.2 Wizard : Maximize Spell
.3. . . . : Precision
.6. . . . : Insightful Reflexes
.6 Wizard : Quicken Spell
.9. . . . : Spell Penetration
11 Wizard : Extend Spell
12. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
15. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing
16 Wizard : Heighten Spell
18. . . . : Greater Spell Penetration
20 Fighter: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
22 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

.1 HalfElf: Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue


Enhancements (Spent: 80 +0r +1u / Max: 80 +0r +1u AP)

Vistani Knife Fighter (41 AP)

• Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Quick Reflexes, One With Blades, Vistani Fortune, Blade Master
  1. Vistani Knife Training I, Undead Hunter, Acrobatic III, Rapid Slash
  2. Vistani Knife Training II, Bleeding Cuts, Haste Boost III
  3. Vistani Knife Training III, Fan of Knives, Deadly Blades, Stat: Intelligence
  4. Vistani Knife Training IV, Celerity, Choose One: Double Daggers
  5. Vistani Knife Training V, Grudge Bearer, Blessed Blades, Vendetta

Eldritch Knight (Wizard) (13 AP)

• Eldritch Strike, Spellsword, Imbue the Blade
  1. Improved Mage Armor III, Arcane Siphon I
  2. Improved Shield III, Spellpower Boost I
  3. Arcane Barrier

Harper Agent (12 AP)

• Agent of Good I, Ability Score: Intelligence
  1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
  2. Know the Angles III
  3. Strategic Combat II

Pale Master (11 AP)

• Dark Reaping, Pale Shroud: Shroud of the Wraith, Undead Augmentation: Ghost in the Wind
  1. Negative Energy Conduit III, Spell Critical
  2. Cloak of Night I, Spell Critical

Half-Elf (4 AP)

• Versatile Nature
  1. Arcane Fluidity III

Pros: pretty good single-target melee DPS from Vistani + Harper + EK imbues. Good survivability from wraith bonuses (20% Incorporeality, undead immunities, etc.) and +25% HPs from Vistani. -30% ASF from Enhancements is enough for most medium and some heavy armors. [If you slot a Sapphire of Spell Agility, adjust ASF reduction enhancements as necessary.] Would also work as drow, especially if you don't have 32-point builds unlocked. Trap skills, because why not?

Cons: not much spent on caster-DPS enhancements, yet Vistani requires a lot of "filler" since we can't take the Mist Stalker line. AoE damage will be less than pure casters or 2HF Eldritch Knights with EK Tempest.

 

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Tier 5 EK is the best DPS again since the nerf i believe.

Yeah it looks like you're expected to do hybrid imbue/crit damage on EK if you go that route.

yet Vistani requires a lot of "filler" since we can't take the Mist Stalker line.

Yeah it's like half the tree. This really does kind of play out like the worst build ever. I'll keep playing with the idea.

 

[Dman1970]

Yeah, I didn't have harper agent when I first came up with this. Plus, I've been gone from the game for about a decade and it has changed a lot, so trying to figure out how to plan things is new. Would need harper for the int to hit and damage. Mainly trying to be a PM with the other to make it viable in the sneak attack damage department. It was inspired by the sneak attack you can get from wraith, so I was wondering if that could be built upon.