Filigree Question

[Driaza]

Say i have 4 filigrees of one set in my Weapon - lets call them A, B, C, D

Then i have another filigree in my Artifact and say i use another A

Would i get a the 5 piece set bonus as A is not in the Weapon? Or only 4 piece set bonus and i would need say filigree E in the Artifact to get the 5 piece?

 

[Aggy]

You'll get the set bonus!

 

[Dhalgren]

I thought you'd only get the bonus if the pieces were different but now I'm not sure. I guess you could check by putting A into the artifact and seeing what happens My questions are: a) does this work (do the pieces of a set have to be different), and b) does A on the weapon stack with A on the artifact, because if not, it seems like it would make more sense to get E in that artifact if you could (although maybe the set bonus is worth the difference to you; I dunno).

 

[Driaza]

Thanks Aggy

Dhal - good question - maybe we get the set bonus but not the same effect A does?

 

[Zvdegor]

Yo can have the same filigree in your weapon and in the artifact and you get both benefits, the stats on your filis and the set bonus too.
This is how you can slot 1 each Sucker Punch/One Agaist Many +2 Str (+4 Melee Power) Raid filigree into your weapon and artifact and can benefit 2 setbonuses for a + 28 Melee Power.

 

[Alternative]

One exception regarding dual filigrees - https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/s...or-Artifacts?p=6569264&viewfull=1#post6569264

 

[Fisto Mk I]

+ 28 Melee Power.

+18 really... but I don't wanna to trample your dreams... 8)

 

[Zvdegor]

+18 really... but I don't wanna to trample your dreams... 8)

Indeed. True. 18 it is. Bad memory.

 

[droid327]

Double up Darkhallow Namp filis for 20+20+10

Best thing for your eVoice at 20 for pm builds

 

[Scrag]

What is the best way to get imbue dice? I have 3 on arti, 6 on weapon, and that looks to be about all I can get (3, 3, 3). Reverb is 1 dice for 2. I have no way to hit 7 on the weapon, but...

Does that work? Reverb slotted twice, once in weapon once in arti? I don't think so...

 

[FuzzyDuck81]

What is the best way to get imbue dice? I have 3 on arti, 6 on weapon, and that looks to be about all I can get (3, 3, 3). Reverb is 1 dice for 2. I have no way to hit 7 on the weapon, but...

Does that work? Reverb slotted twice, once in weapon once in arti? I don't think so...

snowpeaks festival filigrees include a +1 imbue die augment, wouldn't surprise me if a new set with similar properties was added for night revels too

 

[Waveman]

From the wiki:

• Filigrees with the same effect from the same set cannot be added to the same Sentient Weapon and thus do not stack
• Filigrees with the same effect from different sets can be added to the same Sentient Weapon and do stack (unless noted otherwise)

 

[TedSandyman]

From the wiki:

• Filigrees with the same effect from the same set cannot be added to the same Sentient Weapon and thus do not stack
• Filigrees with the same effect from different sets can be added to the same Sentient Weapon and do stack (unless noted otherwise)

Yeah, but the thread is concerned with the same effect from the same set on DIFFERENT Sentient Weapons (or artifacts). And the answer is they DO stack.

 

[Green_Draconis]

What is the best way to get imbue dice? I have 3 on arti, 6 on weapon, and that looks to be about all I can get (3, 3, 3). Reverb is 1 dice for 2. I have no way to hit 7 on the weapon, but...

Does that work? Reverb slotted twice, once in weapon once in arti? I don't think so...

While you can not get multiple of the same set, you can get the same bonus from different pieces on different items (artifact and weapon). The individual items is currently limited to 1 each of Snowpeaks.
Different sets can also provide the same benefit and stack, in order of efficiency:
Reverb 2-piece for +2 Imbue
3-piece for +2 Imbue: Electrocution, Long Shadow, Snake Bite

4-piece for +2 Imbue: Beast's Mantle
4-piece for +1 Imbue: Frozen Wanderer, Wreath of Flame

I suspect the last 2 are not really worth considering, so with a 10-piece weapon and a 5-piece (currently best slot) Myth Dranor artifact: 15 slots
2 - Snowpeaks => +2 Imbue
2 - Reverberation => +2 Imbue
3 of the 3-piece => +2 Imbue each (9 total) for +6 Imbue

For 13 filigree, you can get a maximum +10 Imbue Dice

 

[Fisto Mk I]

I suspect the last 2 are not really worth considering

Why not? Frozen can be viable for pure Pally tank, and Wreath of Flame almost no brain choice for many ranged build. 8)

 

[vryxnr]

Why not? Frozen can be viable for pure Pally tank, and Wreath of Flame almost no brain choice for many ranged build. 8)

I mean, they stated the goal was imbue dice, and right now we have (with a myth drannor minor artifact) at most 15 filigree slots, so you want as many filigree sets that grant bonus imbue dice as possible within those 15 slots.

Wreath of Flame/Frozen Wanderer each uses up 4 slots to get only +1 dice.

The person asking didn't specify if this was a ranged or melee or caster build. While I agree that as a whole character one will want more than JUST imbue dice, but IF one is only going for max imbue dice, 4 slots for only a +1 is simply less than using the alternatives.

 

[nenetteblackmoor]

One exception regarding dual filigrees - https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/s...or-Artifacts?p=6569264&viewfull=1#post6569264

Does this bug mentioned here still exist?
I had placed Raid Filigree in the last two slots because of the slot window design, but was that design actually a trap?

 

[Kancamagus Lightfoot]

Why not? Frozen can be viable for pure Pally tank, and Wreath of Flame almost no brain choice for many ranged build. 8)

Fisto just curious if you know - does the Wreath of Flame 3 piece bonus "Permanent Fire Shield" give the cool type or hot type?

 

[DilemmaEnder]

Fisto just curious if you know - does the Wreath of Flame 3 piece bonus "Permanent Fire Shield" give the cool type or hot type?

Wreath of Flame gives Fire Type (Protects against Cold damage).

 

[Fisto Mk I]

Wreath of Flame gives Fire Type (Protects against Cold damage).

^^^
This.