Fix your store!

Terranigma

Well-known member
Amazing how there wasn't a problem over the last decade and a half, up to May 25th of this year when I last bought points. It isn't a Linux or Steam issue. Quit trolling.
I wasn't intending it as a troll, but rather as a potential to diagnose. Steam had some major issues with DDO purchases (so major it basically worked for no one) around years... 2022 to 2024? It was a common complaint at the time, and who knows, maybe there are some Steam API keys that went bad or something else causing issues. We've also seen DDO have HTTPS/SSL certificates lapse and other issues requiring maintenance that can be easy to forget but incredibly embarrassing to users when they surface.

Anyhow, you got the attention of Celestrata, and I hope you can find a resolution to your issues.
 
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Ferreae

Well-known member
Steam had some major issues with DDO purchases around years... 2022 to 2024

If you actually are of the few that use the DDO forums on Steam, you can see people having issues with DDO Store and Steam Wallet since 2013. Err-## this that and the other thing. Is a reason we often told people just to use the normal client and not play through steam.
 

Zvdegor

Melee Artificer Freak
VIP ran out today. Supposed to auto renew, but hey, can't expect much. Can't even get the store to work long enough to renew. Just crashes. Why? Why do you make it impossible to actually pay you money? Quit using ai slop to code your stuff. Are you trying to go out of business?

1 - Used to be able to renew/buy VIP via the webpage market, not in game store only. Quit breaking stuff.

2 - Can't put a different payment in on the in game store. Why? Because incompetence and ai slop.

3 - Steam is not down, I just bought a random game on my wishlist just to prove it wasn't. It's on DDO.
My favourite is when VIP expires and I am logged and playing with friends, the game just boots me without warning. No reminder email a week or a day before, wont let me play through that day when my VIP expires. It is extremly rude and unprofedsional customer treatment.
 

Eme

Well-known member
Quit using ai slop to code your stuff.
would say it's *not* AI.

would say it *is* too many non-designer fingers stuck in the pot with design requests (from many different higher ups) directing the development and not listening to the designer's reasons for design decisions.
 

Geezer

Well-known member
Its really quite sad that they have a store to sell you stuff, but when I open the store it doesnt open, and I have to do it 2 or 3 times to get it to work. This has been going on for years (and I dont use Steam either). How hard can it be to fix it???
 

PaleFox

Well-known member
Y'all know I do hang out around here, right? >.> I can... uh... read?

Got thrown out of psychology and into game dev... that's some Batman-esque lore we got started up here. Dang, I wish it was that epic! Nahhhhh... all I did was say "I wanna be in MMORPG dev" in college. Which was... uh... almost 20 years ago now.

...wow do I suddenly feel old.

Anyway! I caught up with CMgamer on discord, but I've been looking into similar problems on LOTRO. If anyone here is trying to purchase points or VIP through Steam and is having issues, please DM me! I have some questions to ask that will hopefully help us shed light on what may be going wrong, as this has so far been a tricky/inconsistent bug to track down. The more information we can get here, the better.

I should also clarify for folks: I'm not the coder, we have a different group for that. You don't want to be trusting me with code! But I do get information from y'all over to them, so they can get these things addressed. It's a team effort!
To give you some hints, granted in the most general terms possible... DDO (or SSG) is on some sort of list of the organizations that do financial transactions.
I had to call in with my organization that does that kind of work for me and someone there had to greenlight my transaction manually.
 

Blaster

Well-known member
Y'all know I do hang out around here, right? >.> I can... uh... read?
Uhh... that's why we say things... so hopefully the dev team actually reads things and makes an effort to fix things for the customers of their product. It's not difficult to understand that happy customers = more spending. What makes customers happy? Functioning products that are easy to use.

The player base is used to the dev team largely ignoring feedback. This leads to frustration. Frustration, along with a poorly functioning product = unhappy customers = less spending. It doesn't take a billionaire who dresses up nightly like a flying rodent with his underoos on the outside of his yoga pants, with an odd proclivity for underage sidekicks, to figure that out.

I don't have 20 years in game development, hell, I'm not even a small town bird lawyer, but I do know that say when you have eight or so months from an expansion coming out until the release of its bonus items in the store that you should make make sure said items work and don't have to be pulled from sale for a time because no one bothered in those eight months to check if there might be some kind of problem, like say with the Chaosmancer, or bother to make sure the art team has the icons ready for items when they go on sale like with several Lamordia items did. (I forget, but didn't one of those items also have to get pulled temporarily for some reason or another too?)

These issues happen with the cash store too. Let's say you do some big sales for expansions during Black Friday in November of one year, and then you do big sales for expansions in June/July of the following year, you'd assume that any issues with pricing from the November sale would have been fixed by the time a similar sale happens seven-ish months later, right? Nope, because the same thing happened again.

I don't just criticize; I've praised Tonquin's return as one of the few bright spots in 2026 for DDO, because it meant a dev who pays attention to the bugs players report makes an effort to fix them; but when poor functionality and clearly preventable issues crop up -- repeatedly sometimes -- with both the in-game store and the cash store, it's going to take more than lowering the prices on Bigsby Hands or a cutesey-named weekly giveaway code to get praise from me.
 

after human

Well-known member
i rarely buy things from the store, but with how clunky and slow it is, i do wonder how whales spend thousands on this game...

i have to give 1 to SSG though, whenever i have a ddo market issue, customer support helped me quickly

and honestly, if it was made with AI, it would be better than what it is right now
 

Refutor

Well-known member
have you guys ever tried setting it to "open in external browser" in your options? once i switched to that (a few months ago?) it runs smoothly and i've never had it crash.
 

Celestrata Bloodsong

Alignment: Probable Evil
Uhh... that's why we say things... so hopefully the dev team actually reads things and makes an effort to fix things for the customers of their product.
Yes, I'm aware. And here's my counterpoint:

There are way better ways to get my attention. That wasn't one of them. Please don't. I get when people are frustrated, I'm willing to listen and to figure things out, but let's not make it personal - yeah? I don't think these things of you in the slightest - please do not think them of me.
 

cmgamer

Well-known member
I have opened the store in external opt. I have turned the stuff inside out and upside down. lol Only thing to do right now is wait and let them work on it.
 

Baconator

Well-known member
Y'all know I do hang out around here, right? >.> I can... uh... read?

Got thrown out of psychology and into game dev... that's some Batman-esque lore we got started up here. Dang, I wish it was that epic! Nahhhhh... all I did was say "I wanna be in MMORPG dev" in college. Which was... uh... almost 20 years ago now.

...wow do I suddenly feel old.

Anyway! I caught up with CMgamer on discord, but I've been looking into similar problems on LOTRO. If anyone here is trying to purchase points or VIP through Steam and is having issues, please DM me! I have some questions to ask that will hopefully help us shed light on what may be going wrong, as this has so far been a tricky/inconsistent bug to track down. The more information we can get here, the better.

I should also clarify for folks: I'm not the coder, we have a different group for that. You don't want to be trusting me with code! But I do get information from y'all over to them, so they can get these things addressed. It's a team effort!
I just "celebrated" my almost 70th 4 days ago.

That poster is the meanest person ever to post on these boards. You're doing a fine job @Celestrata Bloodsong. If you weren't I'd pull out my tennis ball equipped walker and complain.

Now all that being said, any chance of dbl points this weekend? Or even better last August we had a 100% guild renown bonus days *nod nod* wink wink :cool:
 

Celestrata Bloodsong

Alignment: Probable Evil
For those who were having issues with Steam Store purchases, please re-try your purchases. The team was able to apply a fix today that looks to have resolved the error in that payment flow.

I just "celebrated" my almost 70th 4 days ago.

That poster is the meanest person ever to post on these boards. You're doing a fine job @Celestrata Bloodsong. If you weren't I'd pull out my tennis ball equipped walker and complain.

Now all that being said, any chance of dbl points this weekend? Or even better last August we had a 100% guild renown bonus days *nod nod* wink wink :cool:
I love you and I'm not falling for tha... wait.

WHAT. You pullin my metal chain? Seriously? You're almost 70? That's awesome! I had no clue!

And chances of such point things? Well... let's say maybe not this weekend. But in the future sometime... well now we're talkin'.
 

Baconator

Well-known member
I love you and I'm not falling for tha... wait.

WHAT. You pullin my metal chain? Seriously? You're almost 70? That's awesome! I had no clue!

Yuppers. pushing 70, I don't look it, and most certainly dont act it. I asked about points, as I am going to use the 30% code for renown pots yippie. Just wanted to save a few $
 

Oliphant

Well-known member
I typically lean into defending the rambunctious antics of forumites freely expressing themselves but some are too comfortable getting into personal attacks - jeesh.
 

Dazling

Well-known member
The strategy of personally attacking any active SSG employee who communicates on the forums seems somewhat counterproductive to me, but my background is in programming so I wouldn't really be qualified to speak to that in the way someone with psychology experience would.
 

Cadaulus

Well-known member
"The strategy of Personally attacking any active SSG employee who communicates on the forums seems somewhat is counterproductive"

There @Dazling I fixed it. I would hope it's never a strategy.
 
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