Fragment of Extraplanar Shadow 20% Ranged Alacrity doesn't work

[Supot]

I tried it on Light Repeating Crossbows on my lvl 34 Pure Artificer.

Haste actually gives a bigger boost.
On my main character sheet, my default is 10%. The augment equipped to runearm gives me 30%. Haste gives me 32%.

Testing number of crossbow shots, I get 119 shots (x3 for repeater = 357) in 3 minutes for both 32% and 30% ranged attack speed bonus.

On my other character (Ranger), if I equip Anarchist's Crossbow, the ranged attack speed bonus is 40% and without it, 35%. I didn't test number of shots with this character.

 

[Supot]

Testing my Light Repeater.

32% attack speed bonus = 40 shots in 1 minute
30% attack speed bonus = 40 shots in 1 minute
20% attack speed bonus = 39 shots in 1 minute
10% attack speed bonus = 38 shots in 1 minute

 

[Supot]

Tested on Melee weapons and non repeating crossbow. Augment is really only giving +15%

 

[nix]

I thought one of the current dev trends was to reduce attack rates? Alacrity has always been a bit suspect, especially for ranged

 

[Supot]

I thought one of the current dev trends was to reduce attack rates? Alacrity has always been a bit suspect, especially for ranged

I think that Haste Boosts don't work, but attack rates were at least allowing Alacrity.

The anarchist's crossbow and Chaosbow both have alacrity 20%.
I have tested on Chaosbow and the alacrity does work compared to regular haste by about 3-4% if i remember correctly.
I have yet to test exact rate of fire of Anarchist's crossbow.

 

[Oliphant]

Wonder if upgraded Warblade armors are bugged too.

 

[kmoustakas]

There's an animation limit, that's why everyone takes patience on pew pew and pew pew pew

 

[Oliphant]

Would it work on Bow?

 

[Hakoist]

would love to follow this post before i make a undying longbow :(

 

[Supot]

me too.. Maybe a true hero would sacrifice 2 bonepickers for posterity

 

[Striga]

me too.. Maybe a true hero would sacrifice 2 bonepickers for posterity

or wait for lamannia maybe

 

[Hakoist]

I have never done any shooting rate test before. But I got the shadow fragment and dino robe and some bows that I could try testing later.

Fyi I am imagining to play a 12rgr/6DL/2mnk centered TWF ranged hybrid next life from my existing 14sf/5dl/1mnk so I am not wasting the bonepicker

 

[Hakoist]

1 minute shooting test show on my BAB24 character, Speed +15%, haste, aerania (weapon alacrity) and my armor slotted fragment of extraplanar shadow all shoot the same number of arrows, indicating that the 20% is just working as 15%.

 

[Hakoist]

Same result for heavy repeating xb, no proficiency, Speed +15%, stickerclick (weapon alacrity) and my armor slotted fragment of extraplanar shadow all shoot the same number of bolt

 

[Hakoist]

There's an animation limit, that's why everyone takes patience on pew pew and pew pew pew

in my 1 min longbow shooting test, 2 haste boost results in 20% more arrows shot
so its not animation limit

 

[Supot]

1 minute shooting test show on my BAB24 character, Speed +15%, haste, aerania (weapon alacrity) and my armor slotted fragment of extraplanar shadow all shoot the same number of arrows, indicating that the 20% is just working as 15%.

The difference of the ranged alacrity 20% vs 15% based on tests I have done with my character is roughly 3-4% if i recall correctly, but i cannot find where i wrote it down.

Ill do more testing tomorrow.
Also check in your character sheet what is the total speed bonus. Mouseover the box next to your BAB

 

[Hakoist]

The difference of the ranged alacrity 20% vs 15% based on tests I have done with my character is roughly 3-4% if i recall correctly, but i cannot find where i wrote it down.

Ill do more testing tomorrow.
Also check in your character sheet what is the total speed bonus. Mouseover the box next to your BAB

the speed bonus in the box next to BAB looks fine, the known -1% and show 14% and 19% when using 15% and 20% stuff.
But well, it doesnt reflect on the arrows shot.

(This is a melee character which doesnt use any ranged feat like rapid shot)

 

[Supot]

the speed bonus in the box next to BAB looks fine, the known -1% and show 14% and 19% when using 15% and 20% stuff.
But well, it doesnt reflect on the arrows shot.

(This is a melee character which doesnt use any ranged feat like rapid shot)

That would explain why Haste Boost works since you don't have Rapid Shot. Speed limit isn't capped yet.

Just did a test

25 BAB​	​
35 attack speed Rapid shot + Regular Alacrity 15 -= 80 shots in 1 min​	​
40 attack speed Rapid shot + Chaosbow Alacrity 20 = 83 shots in 1 min​	​
3.75% difference. The exact difference could be more or less.​	​

But if you compute 1.40/1.35, it is 3.7% so it adds up darn close to the math on paper.

 

[Hakoist]

That would explain why Haste Boost works since you don't have Rapid Shot. Speed limit isn't capped yet.

Just did a test

25 BAB​	​
35 attack speed Rapid shot + Regular Alacrity 15 -= 80 shots in 1 min​	​
40 attack speed Rapid shot + Chaosbow Alacrity 20 = 83 shots in 1 min​	​
3.75% difference. The exact difference could be more or less.​	​

But if you compute 1.40/1.35, it is 3.7% so it adds up darn close to the math on paper.

i should get the 5% even without rapid shot which is 2 shots
but i can try again the test with my ranged dps later