FROM D TO S TIER - MY MONK THROWER (u73.1 pure monk thrower)

[Christhemiss]

Only 168 past lives?

this whole thread is a reference to... something

 

[Fisto Mk I]

Seems like with Monk changes those are all pretty much ruled out.

dragon disciple with offhand DoV battleaxe or warhammer

DD still Monk, but usual Monk split with DoV sickle still better.

Horizon Walker used to be impossible to gain charges for the trance, is that still true? It was so bad when I last played I switched out for other trances depending on split. Curious if that's still a thing to worry about

Yea, HW trance is worst in whole game, HW really good only for bowser. Good for quests for less than 6 min complete time, other way it's mean you never use it exclude boss fight.
It's why many prefer use HM trance even with lesser benefist, but run all time. For my Pally/Monk, z.B., i just use perm-runned CHA trance. 8)

Still true, at least, for me.

You wrote that ki clicky gives you plenty of ki in epics, but that Tabaxi is required for the passive ki, I'm not sure I understand. Is the reality that you end up wanting both the passive and the clicky? Not sure if the tabaxi consideration is specfic to leveling or end game too.

in retrospect, this build would be better as an eladrin in epics.

Yea, Eladrin currently is master race for any thrower build. 8)

 

[Abiding Dude]

Yea, Eladrin currently is master race for any thrower build. 8)

dex, to hit, +sneak attack boost? Anything else?

 

[Fisto Mk I]

dex, to hit, +sneak attack boost? Anything else?

No, but it's enough. 8)

 

[Hobgoblin]

ninja spy core 1/2

 

[Joenic2]

Thrower newbie here. So what is the better choice for the offhand weapon? An Alchemical with acid blast, alch dext, earth attunement, or a dino/lamordia offhand? If all the scale, fang, claw and horn slots proc, it would seem better? No? Also if the offhand says bypass adamantine, does it give it to the main throwing weapon as well?

 

[Lominal]

Thrower newbie here. So what is the better choice for the offhand weapon? An Alchemical with acid blast, alch dext, earth attunement, or a dino/lamordia offhand? If all the scale, fang, claw and horn slots proc, it would seem better? No? Also if the offhand says bypass adamantine, does it give it to the main throwing weapon as well?

The bypass wont apply to the main hand. the earth attune, LGS, and (obviously?) the dex will. This puts dino a fair bit ahead. For now, dino can also be found with mythic and reaper bonuses by running the raid as well, lammordia cant (unless changed from lama, they didnt drop in the quests). Since those three stats will scale the same (the scale slot went bypass+ 15d6 ->bypass +16d6), dino is currently the best choice for offhand.

Alchemical dexterity has several sources that give higher than the +2: potions from silver rolls (+1-3), which tend to be oddly cheap on the auction houses, cannith infusion (+4), and tensers scrolls (+4). Exceptional is only granted by globe of imperial blood (+1), which puts them ahead of alchemical if the LGS was't enough on it's own (it is).

 

[Joenic2]

The bypass wont apply to the main hand. the earth attune, LGS, and (obviously?) the dex will. This puts dino a fair bit ahead. For now, dino can also be found with mythic and reaper bonuses by running the raid as well, lammordia cant (unless changed from lama, they didnt drop in the quests). Since those three stats will scale the same (the scale slot went bypass+ 15d6 ->bypass +16d6), dino is currently the best choice for offhand.

Alchemical dexterity has several sources that give higher than the +2: potions from silver rolls (+1-3), which tend to be oddly cheap on the auction houses, cannith infusion (+4), and tensers scrolls (+4). Exceptional is only granted by globe of imperial blood (+1), which puts them ahead of alchemical if the LGS was't enough on it's own (it is).

Thanks for the information!

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

qq: does shintao fists of iron proc on ranged attacks, or melee only?

 

[1Th13rteen3]

168 past lives

 

[Tyran Thraxus]

My problem with thrower builds is that if I want to throw faster, I have to click super fast rather than holding down the mouse button for a slower auto-attack. Can't do that. Not fun.

 

[Mindos]

My problem with thrower builds is that if I want to throw faster, I have to click super fast rather than holding down the mouse button for a slower auto-attack. Can't do that. Not fun.

How much faster?

 

[Tyran Thraxus]

How much faster?

Noticeably...almost twice as fast.

 

[Teh_Troll]

Noticeably...almost twice as fast.

This is why we can't have nice things . . .

 

[Vox]

Autoclicker and a dream

 

[Abiding Dude]

the click faster for more attcaks on thrown has been true for years, maybe a decade

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

The bypass wont apply to the main hand. the earth attune, LGS, and (obviously?) the dex will. This puts dino a fair bit ahead. For now, dino can also be found with mythic and reaper bonuses by running the raid as well, lammordia cant (unless changed from lama, they didnt drop in the quests). Since those three stats will scale the same (the scale slot went bypass+ 15d6 ->bypass +16d6), dino is currently the best choice for offhand.

Alchemical dexterity has several sources that give higher than the +2: potions from silver rolls (+1-3), which tend to be oddly cheap on the auction houses, cannith infusion (+4), and tensers scrolls (+4). Exceptional is only granted by globe of imperial blood (+1), which puts them ahead of alchemical if the LGS was't enough on it's own (it is).

Running similar as Eladrin...

I've got Brighthorn on an offhand IOD Kama, but it's not apparently processing.

I ran through the IOD Wilds and hit/killed everything I could find, but no temp HP.

Is my testing wrong or is Brighthorn bugged in the offhand (it worked previously when I had it on a throwing dagger), and if Brighthorn doesn't proc, are we sure the other horns in offhand do (I've got melthorn on another kama, and would like to think it's working! )?

EDIT: swapped it for Aspect of Tar and ran same test. Got the tar babies appearing OK, so it may be a particular issue with Brighthorn?

 

[Ying]

It's an issue with Brighthorn. I use Waste as my offhand with LGS Affirmation and it procs fine on my shuri.

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

Ta mate, I'll look into that.

Can you stay centered with Waste, as it's a sickle?

 

[Ying]

Ta mate, I'll look into that.

Can you stay centered with Waste, as it's a sickle?

With Grandmaster of Flowers you can. GMOF is pretty much required for shuri for the instant ki gain every 2 min.