Grandmaster of Flames not giving +1 crit

magnus2882

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can confirm that this feat is mostly broken.
Master of Flames gives +1 to crit on a 19-20.
Grandmaster of Flames is supposed to give and additional +1 crit on a 19-20 (for a total of +2).

On the character sheet it doesn't add an extra 1 on the Crits on 19-20.

let's look at the wiki for this:

monk stances

I'm pretty sure the dev's didn't intend this feat to only add +1 str to the stance and +1ki on crit, that would be A MASSIVE WASTE of a feat - even if it's automatically granted at monk level 18, it's still a selectable feat that anyone can pick with at least 2 levels of monk.
If that WAS the case, then it should not have any reference to crits on a 19-20 in it's description as its prerequisite already has it.
 

pevergreen

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The description is correct. Its not cumulative. Do you think grandmaster of wind gives 27.5% attack speed? Or that fire should give you 7 strength?

Grandmaster of Flames grants +4 Strength and the critical multiplier of all weapons you use is increased by 1 on rolls of a natural 19 or 20 at a cost of -2 Wisdom.

Exactly what it says it does. Nothing about 'an additional 1', or anything to imply it would stack. with the master stance, which you are no longer using.
 

PersonMan

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I took it because I thought as per the description, it would add an additional crit on a 19 or 20 which it does NOT. They should amend the description.
Normally they will include "an additional" if they meant it that way. Often times they will also include "(for a total of ___)." This is not to say that descriptions are always conforming and accurate, but the general expectation is there. If they did not state it, assume it doesn't, but feel free to ask or test for otherwise.
 

Eme

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it's a 19-20 (vorpal-ish-style-special) multiplier, they dont show on the sheet, as standard crit is not always 19-20
 

RayRay Ramone

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can confirm that this feat is mostly broken.
Master of Flames gives +1 to crit on a 19-20.
Grandmaster of Flames is supposed to give and additional +1 crit on a 19-20 (for a total of +2).

On the character sheet it doesn't add an extra 1 on the Crits on 19-20.

let's look at the wiki for this:

monk stances

I'm pretty sure the dev's didn't intend this feat to only add +1 str to the stance and +1ki on crit, that would be A MASSIVE WASTE of a feat - even if it's automatically granted at monk level 18, it's still a selectable feat that anyone can pick with at least 2 levels of monk.
If that WAS the case, then it should not have any reference to crits on a 19-20 in it's description as its prerequisite already has it.
Thats not how it works. The stances don't stack.
 

Bjond

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I'm pretty sure the dev's didn't intend this feat to only add +1 str to the stance and +1ki on crit, that would be A MASSIVE WASTE of a feat - even if it's automatically
Each stance gives something nice. Sun gets it's nice bonus at Master rather than GM. Others want GM. Consider Sun stance the lucky one in that it doesn't need the GM feat.
 
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