Here's the scenario: Shortly after my husband and I met in game on Cannith, he invited me to come see his guild on Sarlona. He was one of those players who would create a toon on a server to farm favor. His mains were on Sarlona. So, I created a toon on Sarlona so I could see his guild. After we had played together on Cannith for about a year, he decided he wanted to move to Khyber. So he gifted me his Sarlona guild, and we both moved our mains to Khyber: his from Sarlona and mine from Cannith. So I have a little guild in Sarlona that he put several years' worth of work into, but over 90% of the guild's renown in that guild is from his work, and I have just kept it in safekeeping over the years. The renown is owned by the guild; there are no active players other than me, and I have only played on Sarlona briefly when we first met over 8 years ago. If all that renown is lost, I'm going to be unhappy because it represents a huge amount of time and effort and love that he put into building that guild. Our plan was to move it to Cormyr, where we could play together there occasionally, even though our mains will be going to a different server. Without the renown the guild currently owns, it would effectively be starting over, even though we have a small ship and multiple amenities. If SSG can figure out a way to retain guild levels or address renown that is owned by the guild and not by a player, that's going to solve a lot of issues described in this thread.