Hard Core

Justfungus

Well-known member
2 things killed Hardcore.
#1 It didn't make as much profit as making over priced expansions.
#2 Whales complained that it diminished their raid groups.
As Orwell said "All animals are equal, it is just that some animals are more equal than others."
 

Justfungus

Well-known member
^ Reason #352 why HCL should have been it's own permanent server.
No transfers.
No wipes. (well, unless you die)
No player migrations (after the first one)
HCL players get their server and non- HCL folks can ignore it.
---------- Done deal
Don't even need special prizes, just turn on HCL rules ... keep a running ladder of the strongest players still alive
and otherwise leave them alone.
Heck, need financial incentives ? Charge 100 DDO coin rent per month to use it.

All fixed.
 

Uska

Drum knight
hated it every time I died either to lag or crash to desktop the last time I had just about finished the last quest to give me 20 and a hound appeared with a lot of.lag a complete TPK no.more wasting time on hardcore
 

Uska

Drum knight
^ Reason #352 why HCL should have been it's own permanent server.
No transfers.
No wipes. (well, unless you die)
No player migrations (after the first one)
HCL players get their server and non- HCL folks can ignore it.
---------- Done deal
Don't even need special prizes, just turn on HCL rules ... keep a running ladder of the strongest players still alive
and otherwise leave them alone.
Heck, need financial incentives ? Charge 100 DDO coin rent per month to use it.

All fixed.
I support this and all benefits stay on the HC server only
 

Uska

Drum knight
On the contrary, I hated it.
There was literally no LFMs on Orien when HC was on.

If I want to stress myself with a perma-death situation I can just say to my wife that it looks like her shirt shrank in the dryer

On the contrary, I hated it.
There was literally no LFMs on Orien when HC was on.

If I want to stress myself with a perma-death situation I can just say to my wife that it looks like her shirt shrank in the dryer.
I miss the laugh emoji
 

Primus

Well-known member
hated it every time I died either to lag or crash to desktop the last time I had just about finished the last quest to give me 20 and a hound appeared with a lot of.lag a complete TPK no.more wasting time on hardcore
My hound experience was the opposite of 20.
I don't like to read previews of what the HC season is going to be, I love the surprise of it.
So that season starts, server opens up, I character create a minute later, log in and begin.
Trying to get my bars and keys in order, but mass log ins on Korthos is already beginning to cause stutter.

Fine, we grab Heyton's Rest, and zone into there to get my keys in order with less lag.
Taking a couple minutes, inventory, windows, and bars all over my screen being organized.
What's that howl? Did they add sound effects to Heyton's?
BAM BAM BAM
'Death has claimed another!'

I didn't even get to kill a single mob 😐
 

Willsave20

Indie Game Developer
My hound experience was the opposite of 20.
I don't like to read previews of what the HC season is going to be, I love the surprise of it.
So that season starts, server opens up, I character create a minute later, log in and begin.
Trying to get my bars and keys in order, but mass log ins on Korthos is already beginning to cause stutter.

Fine, we grab Heyton's Rest, and zone into there to get my keys in order with less lag.
Taking a couple minutes, inventory, windows, and bars all over my screen being organized.
What's that howl? Did they add sound effects to Heyton's?
BAM BAM BAM
'Death has claimed another!'

I didn't even get to kill a single mob 😐
Had someone decide to pike Von3. Hound spawned on them while the rest of the party was about halfway through the quest. Nothin we could do.
 

The Narc2

Well-known member
Hound season was exceptional, especially liked it for killing off multiboxers. So sweet.

Getting the Reaper mount is likely one of my most cherished moments.
 

axel15810

DDO YouTuber, Streamer and Podcaster
I think the separate server worked way better too and want to see it return. I also understand people's concerns with it draining normal servers but maybe there's a compromise here...make it a 1 month event not 2 or 3 - adjust favor/level goals to compensate for less time. Also, the draining server issue won't be felt as much these days since we're down to 4 now.
 

Justfungus

Well-known member
Here is the rub.
Most of the folks against a dedicated HCL server give the reasoning,
"It will be a waste of time and resources because hardly anyone will use it."
The truth ?
They are really afraid that everyone will use it and stay there.
If they created a dedicated HCL server that was always on and it's own thing, it would be one of the top populated servers, if not the biggest.
 

Eoin-1

But now I'm supposed to baby sit this stupid heart
With the 64 bit server consolidation, maybe the main servers won't turn into Wayfinder during HCL? Then we can have a HC server again instead of carried by 3x completionist medium core event?
 

Jaspar

Well-known member
Here is the rub.
Most of the folks against a dedicated HCL server give the reasoning,
"It will be a waste of time and resources because hardly anyone will use it."
The truth ?
They are really afraid that everyone will use it and stay there.
If they created a dedicated HCL server that was always on and it's own thing, it would be one of the top populated servers, if not the biggest.

It was popular because it was time limited. It would not be popular at all if it was permanent.

Look at how few people currently play their own hard core rules on regular servers. Which is all this would be.
 

Justfungus

Well-known member
It was popular because it was time limited. It would not be popular at all if it was permanent.

Look at how few people currently play their own hard core rules on regular servers. Which is all this would be.
Being on a server where you can become the best of the best ... and prove it (via ladders)
can be a remarkably strong incentive to play there.
 

Sarandra

Well-known member
I think the separate server worked way better too and want to see it return. I also understand people's concerns with it draining normal servers but maybe there's a compromise here...make it a 1 month event not 2 or 3 - adjust favor/level goals to compensate for less time. Also, the draining server issue won't be felt as much these days since we're down to 4 now.
Make it pay-to-play, that would help too. I wouldn't mind forking over some cash to be able to do hardcore again.
 

kmoustakas

Scourge of Xaos
I miss hard core. I wasn't all that good at it but dang it was fun. I remember skipping work to hurry home and get online and get started. So fun!

That is all...
Third season was really good. It went full weird after that and lost it's luster.
 
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