I find that flower sniffing solo helps me learn maps and areas better than trying to chase after zergers.
Huge mistake, need help
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RangerOne
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Since this has become the all purpose reincarnation thread I might as well throw this out.
I have been running back to back racial and epic reincarnation. I ran a lot of slayers these past lives and maxed a lot of areas.
The only way I will be able to reset those is to to a good old fashioned true reincarnation (although it nets me nothing if I am rebuilding the same classes and stats) correct? This will reset wilderness areas and monster manual rewards?
I have been running back to back racial and epic reincarnation. I ran a lot of slayers these past lives and maxed a lot of areas.
The only way I will be able to reset those is to to a good old fashioned true reincarnation (although it nets me nothing if I am rebuilding the same classes and stats) correct? This will reset wilderness areas and monster manual rewards?
Solarpower
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Level up to 30+ and rerun everything you need to learn on the lowest difficult till you learn zones/quests.
vryxnr
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Racial Reincarnations are true, thus they reset your flags, completions, etc. iirc this should include wilderness kill counts. If is isn't doing this, that is a strange anomaly and perhaps even a bug (imo of course). I may be wrong here though.
Epic Reincarnations are lesser, thus they do not reset your flags, etc.
Also, on non-Iconic lives you can TR at any level 20 or above, not just 20. Useful once you run out of epic lives to do.Not sure this could be any clearer:
Grimstad
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That would be a total of 18x3=54 epic lives if I'm not mistaken? 5 past life feats each in two spheres, and 4 each in the other two spheres three times each (according to wiki)? https://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Past_Life_Feats
Although what's confusing is that epic completionist is only 12 epic past lives https://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Completionist
The math is not adding up for me.
Phoenicis
Savage's Husband
Your math is correct. There are a total of 54 epic past lives. You only need 12 to get epic completionist. Any 12.
Since you can only have one stance active from any given sphere I consider it 'best practice' to get three of one past life from each sphere initially so you can have four past life toggles running from L1. Which specific past lives to shoot for would depend largely on your primary playstyle.
PurpleTimb
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Heroic, Racial and Iconic Reincarnations are all considered "True" reincarnations and will reset your quest completions, slayer area counts, favor rewards and monster manual rewards. Epic reincarnation and any form of lesser reincarnation are not considered a "true" reincarnation and they do not reset any of these.
So to answer your question directly, no, you don't have to do an Heroic TR to reset your slayer areas; they can be reset with a Racial TR.
Matuse
Join Date: February 2006
You can reset slayer counts with a True, Racial, or Iconic reincarnation. Lesser and epic won't do it.
It will reset the life monster manual rewards, but not the account monster manual rewards. Those accumulate across all characters on the server over time and over all lives. So the monster manual boosts will be just XP for reaching tiers of killing X number of Y monster.
Matuse
Join Date: February 2006
What you miss in the math is that epic completionist can be obtained more than once. Every 12 epic lives gives you another point to spend on destiny trees. So currently you can earn +4 points and be halfway to a fifth point pending the addition of more epic destinies.
Matuse
Join Date: February 2006
You use a racial heart to get the human past lives. Typically this is done 3x - you do 3 human lives in a row. The first such life is pretty bad, only getting Haggle +1. But lives 2 (+1 Wisdom) and 3 (+1 Racial Action Point) are extremely good.
Grimstad
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Makes sense. 3 epic PLs in each of 4 spheres is 12. That means you can get up to 4 epic completionist with some PLs left over?
In the wake of the mistake I made prompting this thread, I at least managed to get 2 epic PLs which I took from different spheres, so I have 2 toggles going.
Grimstad
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Is it better to take the same EPL feat 3 times, or 1 each of each sphere first? On the one hand, you get a single powerful EPL feat in 3 goes; on the other hand, with 4 goes, you get more well-rounded benefits, especially at heroic levels. I suppose Haggle +1 is pretty worthless, so maybe that answers my question.
Phoenicis
Savage's Husband
Small point, the haggle is a racial benefit, not epic.
That said, I have focused on one at a time to max out that benefit, then moved to the next. Though I can see the advantage to doing it the other way as well.
Personal preference IMO.
norriskwondo
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That's where I'm confused with his problem. If he did an epic he just needs to go back to 30. But didn't he state he's working to get back to 20? to my understanding to get back to 20 implies he did a heroic/racial after the epic. If other people are talking about him having to going to level 20, then it's their comments that are confusing. If he tried that but couldn't maybe something went wonky. The base problem, he needs to respec or just play it out back to 30 and do an iconic reincarnation. Or if wants a different class he needs to use +5 hearts and respec. Otherwise, i've read and watched videos on reincarnation and have gotten both can and can not do a heroic reincarnation with an iconic after doing an epic first. Maybe SSG should put out an official game mechanics guide so everyone knows what the **** is going on in this game that we all love to play.
Phoenicis
Savage's Husband
You are the only person I've ever seen make this claim.
vryxnr
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For epics, either way is fine. Though some are better than others (having only a 10 second cooldown on color of the queen procs instead of 30 seconds is well worth it in the long run imo).
For racials, the big gains come when you gain the same one more than once. +1 to a skill is meh, but +1 to a stat, then +1 bonus enhancement point for your racial tree, are huge. So for those you'll gain power sooner by doing the same race 3 times then move on to a different one.
For racials, the big gains come when you gain the same one more than once. +1 to a skill is meh, but +1 to a stat, then +1 bonus enhancement point for your racial tree, are huge. So for those you'll gain power sooner by doing the same race 3 times then move on to a different one.
vryxnr
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When you epic reincarnate, you technically go back to 1 with enough experience to level up to 20, and you cannot leave the void until you do that. Hence you level back up to 20 in that space. When you do that, if you are expecting to do a heroic/racial, it's common to just pick random things during that re-leveling phase, which is what he did, without realizing he could not do heroic/racial TR because he is an iconic. Hence the issue. This is what happened here.
norriskwondo
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I've never done tried it, wasn't planning to. Just stuff I've read and watched. Again, no confusion if SSG published all the game mechanics