I'm tired of this. Thanks for ruining the game devs.

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erethizon1

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Motto: Enjoy the game, loot and XP will follow!
I would add to this, don't research loot. We only care that we are not getting drops when we want something to drop. If you just play, collect and keep what drops, but don't plan out a gear set or research what rarely drops, you are much less likely to have a miserable experience when loot isn't dropping.
 

rabidfox

The People's Champion
I would add to this, don't research loot. We only care that we are not getting drops when we want something to drop. If you just play, collect and keep what drops, but don't plan out a gear set or research what rarely drops, you are much less likely to have a miserable experience when loot isn't dropping.
Toolkits are expensive. Not planning things out is a good way to waste money. If one doesn't care about gear then one doesn't care about gear, but for those who do then planning matters.
 

Vua

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I would add to this, don't research loot. We only care that we are not getting drops when we want something to drop. If you just play, collect and keep what drops, but don't plan out a gear set or research what rarely drops, you are much less likely to have a miserable experience when loot isn't dropping.
That is how it worked 18 years ago, but went flying out the window not long after. People play differently and get enjoyment out of different things. You're telling these people to be someone else. Stop with if everyone just played like I do everything would be fine. They don't. Deal with it.
 

Jasparius

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I don't believe you.

Unless they have a static group of 6 who share drops, burn through thousands of AS on rerolls, and have been ransacking every single quest and rare every week since release, on multiple characters.

There would be enough hours in the day to do it, but it would have required relentless playing and forking out a huge amount of cash to get it done.

Of course they could tell us their server and we can log in and they can link all their gear - because it is a pretty outlandish claim to make.
 

DBZ

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Pretty flush on shards and tool kits def won't waste em on MDs

Those sales through the roof yet i wonder
 

Guntango

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Unless they have a static group of 6 who share drops, burn through thousands of AS on rerolls, and have been ransacking every single quest and rare every week since release, on multiple characters.

There would be enough hours in the day to do it, but it would have required relentless playing and forking out a huge amount of cash to get it done.

Of course they could tell us their server and we can log in and they can link all their gear - because it is a pretty outlandish claim to make.
dont believe that either
 

erethizon1

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Toolkits are expensive. Not planning things out is a good way to waste money. If one doesn't care about gear then one doesn't care about gear, but for those who do then planning matters.
I agree about toolkits. It is why I have never slotted an augment except for Master's Gift. I am always waiting to get a better mythic/reaper version of whatever I am wearing and don't want to have wasted an augment when the better version of the gear drops so I just keep all my augment slots empty.
 

erethizon1

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That is how it worked 18 years ago, but went flying out the window not long after. People play differently and get enjoyment out of different things. You're telling these people to be someone else. Stop with if everyone just played like I do everything would be fine. They don't. Deal with it.
I was merely adding to the advice that I quoted. His advice was already of the nature of telling people to play like he does. I was just adding a critical part of it. Getting no raid drops is far less of a problem when you have no idea what drops in the raid. Obviously, you can plan out your gear if you want to, but then his advice isn't going to be of much good because you will still be frustrated when you don't get what you are looking for.

I know this feeling well. Once I made 2 dozen mules, I started collecting all the gear that has been added to the game in recent years. Running an entire chain for no loot that I am missing from my list makes the entire experience less enjoyable. But it is the nature of looking for items that only randomly appear. It can be avoided by not looking for anything (but still taking what happens to come).
 

Positive thinking

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Nope, including the rare bits. I have pulled some of the rares and have almost decked out one of my characters in rare equipment.
I believe you! Congratulations!

Now the others that dont have their gear decked out can start the chase to catch up. All the rerolling bro’s can get to rerolling!!
I was merely adding to the advice that I quoted. His advice was already of the nature of telling people to play like he does. I was just adding a critical part of it. Getting no raid drops is far less of a problem when you have no idea what drops in the raid. Obviously, you can plan out your gear if you want to, but then his advice isn't going to be of much good because you will still be frustrated when you don't get what you are looking for.

I know this feeling well. Once I made 2 dozen mules, I started collecting all the gear that has been added to the game in recent years. Running an entire chain for no loot that I am missing from my list makes the entire experience less enjoyable. But it is the nature of looking for items that only randomly appear. It can be avoided by not looking for anything (but still taking what happens to come).
it occurs to me that they might not want people to have mule accounts looting with main accounts, maybe thats why we may see some servers in the future be vip only, maybe those servers will have better drop rates.
 

Fizban

Founder, Feb. 2006
I would add to this, don't research loot. We only care that we are not getting drops when we want something to drop. If you just play, collect and keep what drops, but don't plan out a gear set or research what rarely drops, you are much less likely to have a miserable experience when loot isn't dropping.
There is alot of truth to your post. I do plan out my gear wish list, but I don't stress about it a lot. When I get it I get it, there is alot of loot (equipment) in the game that can be sub-in until you get what you want to drop.
 

Vua

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I was merely adding to the advice that I quoted. His advice was already of the nature of telling people to play like he does. I was just adding a critical part of it. Getting no raid drops is far less of a problem when you have no idea what drops in the raid. Obviously, you can plan out your gear if you want to, but then his advice isn't going to be of much good because you will still be frustrated when you don't get what you are looking for.

I know this feeling well. Once I made 2 dozen mules, I started collecting all the gear that has been added to the game in recent years. Running an entire chain for no loot that I am missing from my list makes the entire experience less enjoyable. But it is the nature of looking for items that only randomly appear. It can be avoided by not looking for anything (but still taking what happens to come).
Sure. No problem. We'll just explain to everyone they've been having fun wrong all these years. They shouldn't plan anything and just play the game with blissful ignorance of what is available and their chances of getting it. Don't worry that the chances of pulling that item you want is barely better than winning the lottery now, you don't know you want it anyway.

This is no better than your other post. You want people to change how they feel. Do you know how hard it is to control feelings? Just because I can do it to some extent or you can doesn't mean everyone can. And regardless of what you think, we have a limited ability to control what we feel. We can rationalize it and say whatever we want to others, but it doesn't mean we actually feel that way.
 

Natashaelle

Time Bandit
Sure. No problem. We'll just explain to everyone they've been having fun wrong all these years.
This is a truly bizarre post.

In my experience, the only people who do this are the über-elitist crowd who insist on some sort of overly normative gameplay in obedience to their personal playstyles.
They shouldn't plan anything and just play the game with blissful ignorance of what is available and their chances of getting it.
And why not ?

All your tip-top gear will anyway be "ruined" according to OP by the next Level Cap increase, or if he cannot personally obtain his fantasy gear set within 15 minutes or so.

After so many years and years, each latest /ragequit just sounds more and more desperate.
You want people to change how they feel.
Classic projection.
 

Ahser

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I have been messing with LOTRO a bit and I find DDO's combat system infinitely more appealing.

Wilderness areas (all of them) would be MUCH better if there were more quests populating them. Most seem to consider them a nuisance because they aren't the final desitination. It would be good if they were the destination sometimes.
I also prefer DDO combat and mechanics-wise. I wish we had more open-world and RP content like LotRO, but running dungeons with other people is still awesome. I juggle a few MMOs and tbh this is the only one I don't play solo!
 

AMess

Winter is Coming
This is a truly bizarre post.

In my experience, the only people who do this are the über-elitist crowd who insist on some sort of overly normative gameplay in obedience to their personal playstyles.

And why not ?

All your tip-top gear will anyway be "ruined" according to OP by the next Level Cap increase, or if he cannot personally obtain his fantasy gear set within 15 minutes or so.

After so many years and years, each latest /ragequit just sounds more and more desperate.

Classic projection.

"bizarre", "uber-elitist", "class projection".....these labels are more likely to incite anger than change minds.

We may not know each others stories, we don't know which of us grew up in trailer parks cold and hungry wearing our brothers worn clothes.

There are many personalities in the world, each interrupting the world through their own past experiences & occasionally confused when others don't understand things as they do. We each get our own reality. Conflict comes when those realities collide...but, that's ok...we can be different and come from different backgrounds and still accept each others unique perspectives.

What I hope unifies us is our love of the game and our shared human experience.
 

Guntango

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"bizarre", "uber-elitist", "class projection".....these labels are more likely to incite anger than change minds.

We may not know each others stories, we don't know which of us grew up in trailer parks cold and hungry wearing our brothers worn clothes.

There are many personalities in the world, each interrupting the world through their own past experiences & occasionally confused when others don't understand things as they do. We each get our own reality. Conflict comes when those realities collide...but, that's ok...we can be different and come from different backgrounds and still accept each others unique perspectives.

What I hope unifies us is our love of the game and our shared human experience.
To be fair, a projector would know projection, amirite?!
 

Positive thinking

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This is a truly bizarre post.

In my experience, the only people who do this are the über-elitist crowd who insist on some sort of overly normative gameplay in obedience to their personal playstyles.

And why not ?

All your tip-top gear will anyway be "ruined" according to OP by the next Level Cap increase, or if he cannot personally obtain his fantasy gear set within 15 minutes or so.

After so many years and years, each latest /ragequit just sounds more and more desperate.

Classic projection.
I tend to feel that those needs stem from a much deeper situation(or one that doesnt go very deep!!) which requires over compensation, we women are used to seeing it over and over in our real lives, gaming is a perfect place to exasperate it.

It is most unfortunate because the end result is a huge lack of confidence and is very unattractive. Even the most powerful of gaming toons will not make up for your social skills.
 
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